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Old 06-06-2006, 11:08 PM
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dodge viper lost all its swagger. it doesn't even look mean, and can't perform like z06.
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I dunno, doesn't look that bad but it def doesn't look half as good as stuff I doodle in class. The rear looks like a squashed sebring. Why dont they take the styling from all of their new, MB inspired autos and throw it on there?
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they need to redesign the viper to be more mean looking and less bulbus looking
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I hope the restyle includes a different CD changer than whats in the SRT4.

I love you dodge. But the interior suxors.
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2008 Viper 600 hp


Even More Venom: Dodge Unleashes New 600-horsepower 2008 Viper SRT10

-Additional 90 horsepower on tap from new 8.4-liter Viper SRT10 V-10 engine
-Dramatic new hood features restyled, functional air extractors
-0-60 mph in under four seconds, 0-100-0 mph in just over 12 seconds, braking in under 100 feet
-New exterior, interior colors provide customers with increased customization options

The new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 boasts more of what performance aficionados crave: kick-in-the-pants, throw-back-in-the-seat power, combined with benchmark braking, world-class ride and handling, a race-inspired interior and bold exterior styling.

While every SRT vehicle offers balanced, overall performance, the heart and soul of the new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 is its standout powertrain. For 2008, SRT ups the ante with a new, 8.4-liter aluminum V-10 engine that produces an astounding 600 horsepower and 560 lb.-ft. of torque.

"A legendary big-game hunter once said, 'Bring enough gun!' - and with the new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10, we've created some very powerful artillery for sports-car enthusiasts," said Kipp Owen, Director - Street and Racing Technology (SRT) Engineering, Chrysler Group. "With 600 horsepower - 90 more than before - and 0-to-60 performance in less than four seconds, the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 sets a new benchmark for the ultimate American sports car."

The new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 will arrive in Dodge showrooms in North America this summer with a new level of customization options, including five new exterior colors, four new interior color combinations and a new wheel design.

Standout Powertrain
When SRT powertrain engineers set out to get more venom from the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10's powerplant, their objectives included not only increasing performance, but also complying with stringent regulatory requirements, such as federal Tier 2, Bin 5 and California's Low Emissions Vehicle (LEV) 2 mandates.

Working with specialists from McLaren Performance Technologies and Ricardo, Inc., SRT engineers began by following the racer's basic formula for more power: bigger displacement, more efficient breathing and higher engine speed.

The new Dodge Viper SRT10's deep-skirted V-10 aluminum engine block was revised for a 1-millimeter larger bore, raising the displacement to 8.4 liters from 8.3 liters. With strengthened bulkheads and improved water jackets for better cooling, the block includes pressed-in iron cylinder liners and cross-bolted main bearing caps for strength and durability.

The Viper SRT10's 8.4-liter engine breathes through new cylinder heads equipped with Computer Numerically Controlled (CNC)-shaped combustion chambers, larger valves and Variable Valve Timing (VVT). VVT electronically adjusts when the exhaust valves are open and closed according to engine speed and load, allowing the engine to "breathe" cleaner and more efficiently.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 V-10's two-piece intake manifold combines a cast aluminum lower with smooth runners for better air flow, bolted to a die-cast aluminum upper plenum. A revised air-cleaner box with a low-restriction filter sends air through a dual electronic throttle control into the intake module.

The air-fuel mixture in the cylinders is ignited by platinum-tip spark plugs fired by new individual plug coils mounted on the cylinder-head covers.

Within the cylinders, pistons are equipped with larger-diameter floating pins with bronze bushings for high-load capability. Forged powder-metal connecting rods are secured with aircraft-quality fasteners for increased fatigue strength.

Engine lubrication is managed by a larger oil pump and a swinging oil pickup adapted from Viper competition engines, to improve oil pressure in high-rpm and hard-cornering conditions.

Spent gases exit through tubular air-gap headers, which not only improve exhaust flow, but also ensure quick catalyst light-off for improved emission control. The headers' stamped stainless-steel outer shell acts as a thermal heat shield for the individual stainless-steel runners that contribute to better flow separation and exhaust tuning.

SRT engineers didn't stop there. Upgrades were developed to handle the 8.4-liter V-10's increased horsepower and torque levels, while improving traction, driveability - and durability.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10's V-10 channels its power through a new, smaller-diameter, twin-disc clutch (a change from the previous larger-diameter, single-disc setup). The new clutch reduces rotating inertia by 18 percent, resulting in reduced clutch-pedal effort and improved engagement feel.

The transmission is the latest evolution of the Tremec T56 six-speed manual, known as the TR6060. It features 10 percent wider gears for higher torque capacity and a new synchronizer package. A new shifter system results in reduced shifter travel. Club racers will applaud a new provision for adding an external transmission cooler.

Benchmark Braking
Stopping power is another key attribute of the Dodge Viper SRT10 formula, with 14-inch brake rotors gripped by Brembo 44/40 dual opposing piston calipers in the front and Brembo 42/38 dual opposing calipers in the rear. An anti-lock braking system (ABS) prevents lockup during hard braking. This system results in a benchmark braking performance of 60-to-0 mph in less than 100 feet.

World-class Ride and Handling
The ride and handling of the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 is defined by a race-bred, fully independent, four-wheel suspension featuring lightweight, high-performance aluminum control arms and knuckles, damped by lightweight coil-over shock absorbers.

Where the power goes right to the road, SRT engineers retained the tried-and-true Dana M44-4 rear axle and outfitted it with a new GKN Visco-Lok speed-sensing limited-slip differential for improved traction.

The Dodge Viper SRT10 rides on polished, forged aluminum, 18 x 10-inch front and 19 x 13-inch rear wheels now available in three styles: the five-spoke, the H-spoke and the all-new Razor wheel with five U-shaped spokes. The wheels are clad in Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires. The four-groove tread-design tires provide maximum grip, reduced road noise and superior handling in both wet and dry conditions.

Bold Exterior Styling
The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 remains available in two body styles - Roadster and Coupe. Both feature a dramatic new hood with a larger, more efficient hood scoop for air induction and larger, functional hood louvers to facilitate a greater cooling effect for the more powerful 8.4-liter, 600-horsepower V-10 engine underneath.

Eight exterior colors will be introduced throughout the model year - five of which are all-new including Venom Red, Snakeskin Green, Viper Violet, Viper Orange and Bright Blue. Racing stripes continue to be an option with six dual painted stripe colors available: white, black, silver, graphite, blue and red.

Several exterior differences exist between the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 Roadster and Coupe. In fact, the only body panels they share are front fascia and fenders, hood and doors. However, all of the iconic Viper SRT10 design cues have been maintained including the signature crosshair grille, deep-cut side scallops, swept-back fenders and lowered hood lines.

The Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe's hard top with its "double bubble" styling makes it even more torsionally stiff than the Roadster. The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe offers increased downforce and high-speed stability with its sloping roofline and deck-lid spoiler. Plus, the Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe has an additional 6.25 cubic feet of trunk space than the Viper SRT10 Roadster, for a total of 14.65 cubic feet. The roof and headliner structure offer more room to accommodate a safety cage, while maintaining as much headroom as possible.

Race-inspired Interior Design
The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 Roadster and Coupe cockpit retains its characteristic red push-button starter and performance-oriented, highly functional instrument panel with center-mounted tachometer and 220-mph speedometer.

Five interior colors will be available in 2008: black, and four new color combinations in black/red, black/blue, black/slate or black/natural tan. A choice of bezel finishes on the center instrument panel and console adds to the increased level of customization.

"The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 delivers die-hard performance enthusiasts a perfect combination of outrageous power, exceptional performance and stunning good looks," said Mike Accavitti, Director - Dodge Motorsports and SRT Marketing and Product Planning. "And now with a whole new range of interior and exterior colors and options to choose from, the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 redefines how a customer can personalize their Viper."















Full article.....http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/detroit...ack-224709.php
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Hope that Z06 hoodscope knockoff will be changed for production.
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Looks like SRT4 rims to fit the Viper.

(Or one could say ... "Looks like TL-S rims!")
Old 12-28-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Hope that Z06 hoodscope knockoff will be changed for production.
That's the production car, they need all those big vents for the heat.

No way would the current setup be able to handle the extra juice.

The car generates a ton of heat even to this day.

You'll still be able to get the optional 5 star wheels I'm sure.
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Yea i know they functional.

Ya know, nevermind. I just realized the old viper had the same looking scoop as well.

This is what i was referring to. The scoops look almost the same.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
This is what i was referring to. The scoops look almost the same.
Oh ok......the new hood is just more dramatic.
Old 12-28-2006, 05:28 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something here....but didn't the Viper's hood scoop come before the Vette's???

Still, not sure I would by the Viper over the Z06......
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Car is ugly with all those vents and the massive center vent, it might as well be hoodless.
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I used to love the viper when i was a kid. When they lost that pronounced bump in the hood I think I lost interest...
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What changed except on the exterior besides minor aero tweaks? The car looks almost identical to the last gen. Also, the interior looks identical as well. The big news is the hp increase.
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It shouldn't be a surprise that Dodge is turning this into a HP war considering they are owned by Mercedes, a mfg that packs all of their models w/ ridiculous amts of hp.

Can't wait for the 600 hp Z06 that will weigh about 500 lbs less than the Viper.
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This HP increase I believe increases the reliability of the rumors for the 08 Vette making an extra 50HP. Not sure what will happen to the Z06, however.
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Originally Posted by Python2121
I used to love the viper when i was a kid. When they lost that pronounced bump in the hood I think I lost interest...
It looked like a shoe with that bump.
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It looks awesome and will outperform the Z06, but GM has something up it's sleeve.
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Originally Posted by bigman
It looks awesome and will outperform the Z06, but GM has something up it's sleeve.
GM definitely have an answer soon. The LS7 isn't anywhere maxed out. I still think that the Z06 is a better car, but that's my own personal preference. My buddy's SRT10 Viper never impressed me like the Z06.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
GM definitely have an answer soon. The LS7 isn't anywhere maxed out. I still think that the Z06 is a better car, but that's my own personal preference. My buddy's SRT10 Viper never impressed me like the Z06.
Not to mention that for some reason a few z06's are dynoing more than 500 to the wheels now. I just say a GTO with an LS7 sway that made 520+ horses to the wheels with no bolt on mods.
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Originally Posted by bigman
It looks awesome and will outperform the Z06, but GM has something up it's sleeve.
What are you talking about? Is this about the amount of bshit you can pull out your ass? The 08 viper out performing the 06 Zo6 allround is a sad joke. The viper is a PIG. The Ford GT and Vette Z06 are the cars that get compared to the super high end autos, not the dodge, adding more hp never made a car more comparable to super cars.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
What are you talking about? Is this about the amount of bshit you can pull out your ass? The 08 viper out performing the 06 Zo6 allround is a sad joke. The viper is a PIG. T
On the 1/4 mile, the Z06 is faster, but the last time Car & Driver took them to Willow Springs, the Viper lapped slightly quicker.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
On the 1/4 mile, the Z06 is faster, but the last time Car & Driver took them to Willow Springs, the Viper lapped slightly quicker.
The Vette is more difficult to drive near the limit. In the hands of a good driver, the Z06 is faster. Just look at the Nurburgring times as a good indicator.
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The new ZO6 is heavenly. Me likeeees!
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
On the 1/4 mile, the Z06 is faster, but the last time Car & Driver took them to Willow Springs, the Viper lapped slightly quicker.

Different tracks make different fast cars come in first. I'd like to see that article though. I'd also like to see flat out specs of both cars from the same review that has the Zo6 in 2nd vs a viper, I pretty much think it isn't possible.
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The one thing I wanted to say I didn't, Drivers-the skill of driving each car is such an unknown.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Different tracks make different fast cars come in first. I'd like to see that article though. I'd also like to see flat out specs of both cars from the same review that has the Zo6 in 2nd vs a viper, I pretty much think it isn't possible.
It was actually Motor Trend, not Car & Driver as I originally thought. Here's the article: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...upe_comparison

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The one thing I wanted to say I didn't, Drivers-the skill of driving each car is such an unknown.
I always love it when people use this argument. Why can't two cars that are driven by the same person be compared? What qualifications does a test driver need to have before he is considered impartial? We're not talking about random people off the street, this is a professional test driver who has driven practically every car available.

As Maximized pointed out "The Vette is more difficult to drive near the limit. In the hands of a good driver, the Z06 is faster." I would take that to mean that the average joe isn't going to be any faster with a Z06. If a test driver isn't qualified to evaluate a Z06, what makes you think you'd be better?
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
We're not talking about random people off the street, this is a professional test driver who has driven practically every car available.
Back in 03, I was at Gingerman when the mags were testing the Ford GT. Needless to say, most of the guys couldn't pull decent times. My buddy Greg and I were timing them via his stopwatch/lap timer. The mag writers are no where near the skill level of a pro race driver. I always take mag testing with a grain of salt, unless it clearly states that a pro driver was behind the wheel.
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So my question remains, why do you think an average driver looking to buy a Z06 or a Viper would be more qualified to turn faster times in a Z06 than the driver for Motor Trend?
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
So my question remains, why do you think an average driver looking to buy a Z06 or a Viper would be more qualified to turn faster times in a Z06 than the driver for Motor Trend?
The Z06 has competition mode
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Well that settles it... Z06 > *
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hold on a sec...this car is so hard to handle with its existing HP, this bump in the HP is going to make this a sucide car.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
What are you talking about? Is this about the amount of bshit you can pull out your ass? The 08 viper out performing the 06 Zo6 allround is a sad joke. The viper is a PIG. The Ford GT and Vette Z06 are the cars that get compared to the super high end autos, not the dodge, adding more hp never made a car more comparable to super cars.
The Viper and the Zo6 are very close with respect to performance on the track. Depending on the track, any of the two can win. Needless to say the 08 Viper with 600HP will be quicker than the Z06, unless GM has something planned which could simply be the Blue Devil and GM leaving the Z06 relatively intact for another year or two.
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SRT and Mopar Showcase Viper Possibilities at NAIAS
Tuesday January 9, 12:01 am ET

Custom Viper displays tweaks from Mopar Performance Parts – and 675 horsepower!

Farmington Hills, Mich., January 9 /EXCLUSIVE from viperclub.org/ -- Much speculation has been made since the first details were released on the 2008 Dodge Viper scheduled to appear this week at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Of course today is the day you were supposed to be reading about it, however some magazine editions hit the newsstands – and websites – a little earlier. Viper buyers, already giddy over the addition of a whopping 90 horsepower (yes, 600 total ponies under that revised hood) still had one nagging worry in the back of their minds: What about this long-rumored “Blue Devil” from the “other” American super car camp?

They needn’t have worried. In a surprise addition to this weeks show, DaimlerChrysler’s Mopar and SRT (Street & Racing Technology) Division have added a third Viper in concept form, joining the Venom Red SRT10 Roadster and Viper Red SRT10 Coupe with white racing stripes. Reminiscent of the SRT10 Carbon shown at SEMA in 2003, this latest Coupe variation showcases the many possibilities of this potent platform.

“We at SRT, along with our counterparts at Mopar Performance, wanted to build something for NAIAS that would show what can be done with the new '08 Viper,” said Steve Sharples, Viper Brand Manager at SRT. “This includes many of the new Mopar Performance parts which will be available for the car when it starts shipping to showrooms later this year.”

The Mopar Performance Parts featured are:

- Tubular Exhaust Header Package
- High-flowing, Cat-Back Exhaust System
- Low-restriction, functional Cold Air Intake System
- Fully adjustable Coilover Suspension Kit
- "Sidewinder" Lightweight Wheels (with anodized finish)

And don’t forget the “Racing” in SRT, as they added these race-inspired parts as well:

- Titanium Valves and Connecting Rods
- Cast Litex Pistons and Lightened Crankshaft
- High Flow Intake Manifold with Polished Upper
- Carbon Fiber Coil Covers and Crinkle Black Valve Covers
- Adapted Dodge Viper Competition Coupe Rear Wing and Front Splitter
- Michelin Racing Slicks, 18" in front and 19" in back
- 6 point racing restraints
- Viper "Driver's Stripe" paint scheme

The results? Well besides one of the most stunning Vipers ever to greet the public, it also satisfies the Viper faithful. With a few Mopar Performance parts and some additional internal engine tweaks the car makes an incredible 675 horsepower, with the torque climbing even more – from the impressive stock 2008 number of 560 ft lbs to a mind-boggling 650 ft lbs. You would be hard-pressed to find another exotic from any continent making those kind of numbers.

Will these modifications ever make it to a production car? SRT will not comment on future product. But if what is shown here can be done by visiting your local Mopar parts counter, we already like what we see. Blue Devil shmevil!





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LOL. SRT is basically saying to GM: no way you're getting the title. I love HP wars!
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^^^^^^^^^ HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
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^ What dude? What did you expect from SRT? LOL Remember, when the C5 was making 350HP and everyone was wowing, the Viper was making 450HP and was wearing 335mm tires in the rear. That was in 1997. And if I am not mistaken the Viper was making 450HP years before that even.
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WHat I am still wondering is what will happen to the HP point of the Z06 next year. If the C6 will get 450HP as it's rumored, and the SS will get 650HP, the Z06 cannot stay at 505. It's gotta pick up a few dozen ponies to balance the range a little better.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
^ What dude? What did you expect from SRT? LOL Remember, when the C5 was making 350HP and everyone was wowing, the Viper was making 450HP and was wearing 335mm tires in the rear. That was in 1997. And if I am not mistaken the Viper was making 450HP years before that even.
the Viper SRT's have been stuck at 500hp since 2003. And I hadn't been following any news so yeah this was news to me. :P The pic that particularly wowed me was the wheel... damn that is PERFECTION. And the 1st gen Viper started making 450hp with the introduction of the GTS in 1996. See the Viper was in its own league back then, really. The Vette was not a threat, at all. The Viper was pseudo-exotic class. I mean it was calendar and poster material. The C5 was not. Nobody is hating on the Viper - it opened up a new dimension for American sportscars when it was introduced and kept that trend going. It raised the bar and damn did it take Chevy a long time to catch up.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
What are you talking about? Is this about the amount of bshit you can pull out your ass? The 08 viper out performing the 06 Zo6 allround is a sad joke. The viper is a PIG. The Ford GT and Vette Z06 are the cars that get compared to the super high end autos, not the dodge, adding more hp never made a car more comparable to super cars.
What the fuck is up your ass, you need to chill out when comes to me. Really. Why dont you jump over in the Members you hate thread and post up your dislikes about me. If you didnt like what i say you dont have to be a dick about it and talk shit, just disagree and say why. And when i said outperform, i meant out accelerate, not track performance. So kill me if i didnt clarify that for you. And i am one of the biggest vette fans in here, but The 08 viper has what it takes to compete with the vette more so than the 06-below. And in some cases, on some tracks, it will outperform the vette. Now what did i say that was so bad. Did i say that the vette will never have a chance? Did i say that the vette sucks? What did i say to give you a hard on for me. Jeez.


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