Dodge Demon News **To be FWD (page 3)**
01-26-2007, 11:15 AM
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Dodge Demon News **To be FWD (page 3)**
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Dodge is developing a rear-wheel-drive roadster to compete with the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky, according to a published report citing credible sources. It will have some similarities to the 2002 Dodge Razor concept (pictured).
The new two-seater will arrive at the Geneva auto show in March, according to the the latest issue of U.K. weekly car magazine Autocar. It will fit with Dodge's performance brand image, placing it squarely against Pontiac's Solstice, the report said.
"The small sports car market is an ideal fit for Dodge," Chrysler Group design chief Trevor Creed told the magazine.
Chrysler is undoubtedly hoping the Dodge project will experience more success than the Chrysler-brand Crossfire. The two-seat roadster and coupe have been criticized for being overpriced and not competitive enough.
The new two-seater will arrive at the Geneva auto show in March, according to the the latest issue of U.K. weekly car magazine Autocar. It will fit with Dodge's performance brand image, placing it squarely against Pontiac's Solstice, the report said.
"The small sports car market is an ideal fit for Dodge," Chrysler Group design chief Trevor Creed told the magazine.
Chrysler is undoubtedly hoping the Dodge project will experience more success than the Chrysler-brand Crossfire. The two-seat roadster and coupe have been criticized for being overpriced and not competitive enough.
01-26-2007, 11:16 AM
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Pics of said Razor...
01-26-2007, 11:31 AM
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01-26-2007, 12:22 PM
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how handsome I am
optional projector headlights w/hid's + some more body lines... led tails... etc... looks like it could be competitive...
I like those rims too btw... they match the car well
I like those rims too btw... they match the car well
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01-26-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TL CHROMETIDE
at the guy posing with the scooter.^Now that's a real man! Let me run right out and get one so I can be as cool as that guy!
I thought that I remembered this concept. I just didin't remember how long ago it was out. (2002) That seems like eons ago. I would hope that they wouldn't have just relied on this design for the past 5 years, because it was ugly from the outset, and time has not lessened the blech factor.
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Someone needs to tell Dodge not to build that. It will just put them deeper in the hole. Seriously, they should just fix the Crossfire, I mean FFS its got a good platform, put a real engine in it, optional 6 spd and update the styling.
01-26-2007, 02:44 PM
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Something about it makes me think of a Bugeye Sprite. The headlights look close together and stick up...
I like it
01-26-2007, 04:24 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
DOA for Dodge
01-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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Front is totally Toyota MR2 Spyder, with TT thrown in the rear. And is that loop supposed to be the door handle?
01-26-2007, 09:51 PM
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damn this protype is like 6 years old atleast. I remember seeing that when I was in 9th grade.
according to wikipedia it came out in 2002 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Razor
however I swear I saw concept pictures in like 2000.
according to wikipedia it came out in 2002 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Razor
however I swear I saw concept pictures in like 2000.
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
does no one remember this car from a few years ago? it was at the chicago auto show...
Now, they are just trying to match chevy after the point.
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Originally Posted by titan
It's looks horrible.
01-26-2007, 11:01 PM
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I do, the above posters don't. This was a well under 17k priced sportscar, rwd, light weight, possible srt4 turbo engine powered, nice looks, bare bones interior, etc. The perfect sum of parts.
Now, they are just trying to match chevy after the point.
Now, they are just trying to match chevy after the point.
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Hot commodities coming to the Swiss show - - By JONATHON WONG - - Source: AUtoweek
Dodge hints at a small, affordable roadster for its worldwide lineup with the debut of the Demon concept at Geneva. Envisioned as a competitor to cars like the Mazda MX-5 and Pontiac Solstice, Demon gets its power from a 2.4-liter 172-hp, 165-lb-ft four-cylinder engine, hooked to a six-speed manual gearbox driving the rear wheels. Watch for a complete dossier on Demon in a coming issue of AutoWeek.
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2007 Dodge Demon Concept - - by Marty Padgett (2007-02-12) - - Source: The Car Connection
Does Dodge have a Caliber-based roadster on its mind?
That's the easy question to ask as the Chrysler Group brand drops the veil on a new two-seat roadster coming to the Geneva motor show next month. The Demon, Chrysler says, is a "nimble roadster with an attitude" - a roadster that shares its world four-cylinder powertrain with the new hatchback introduced last year.
The Demon, unlike the Caliber, driven by its rear wheels. But like the Caliber, the Demon sports a 172-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with 165 pound-feet of torque. Here, the engine is mated to a six-speed manual transmission.
The package sounds a lot like the Miata and the roadsters it's spawned in the past decades. Chrysler says the Demon is a balance of classic proportions and modern design. The overall shape has echoes of both the company's own Viper and the less pricey Honda S2000, with a surfaced body, trick LED backup lamps and a signature Dodge crosshair grille. Big 19-inch wheels accentuate the Demon's kicked-up tail and tough stance.
Inside, Chrysler says the Demon has a no-frills interior with an emphasis on performance. Aluminum trim frames all the essential controls - gauges, air conditioning and radio - while the separate console houses the shifter, e-brake and power outlets and cupholders. A three-spoke steering wheel evokes the proper sportscar themes.
Chrysler doesn't admit to any production plans for the affordable sports car concept - but then again, the car hasn't even been seen in public. Stay tuned as TheCarConnection reports from the Geneva show floor in March.
Preliminary Specifications
Engine 2.4-liter petrol World Engine
Maximum Power 172 hp SAE (128 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Maximum Torque 165 lb.-ft. (224 Nm) @ 4400 rpm
Transmission Six-speed manual
Drivetrain Rear-wheel drive
Overall Length 156.5 (3974)
Overall Width (max. @ body) 68.3 (1736)
Overall Height 51.8 (1315)
Wheelbase 95.6 (2429)
Overhang, Front 30.6 (777)
Overhang, Rear 30.3 (769)
Curb Weight (estimated) 2600 lbs. (1179 kg)
Tire Size, Front/Rear 58.7 (1491)
Wheel Size 19 x 8 in.
Outer Diameter 25.2 (640)
Exterior Color Bright Amber Pearl
Interior Color Carbon Black
That's the easy question to ask as the Chrysler Group brand drops the veil on a new two-seat roadster coming to the Geneva motor show next month. The Demon, Chrysler says, is a "nimble roadster with an attitude" - a roadster that shares its world four-cylinder powertrain with the new hatchback introduced last year.
The Demon, unlike the Caliber, driven by its rear wheels. But like the Caliber, the Demon sports a 172-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with 165 pound-feet of torque. Here, the engine is mated to a six-speed manual transmission.
The package sounds a lot like the Miata and the roadsters it's spawned in the past decades. Chrysler says the Demon is a balance of classic proportions and modern design. The overall shape has echoes of both the company's own Viper and the less pricey Honda S2000, with a surfaced body, trick LED backup lamps and a signature Dodge crosshair grille. Big 19-inch wheels accentuate the Demon's kicked-up tail and tough stance.
Inside, Chrysler says the Demon has a no-frills interior with an emphasis on performance. Aluminum trim frames all the essential controls - gauges, air conditioning and radio - while the separate console houses the shifter, e-brake and power outlets and cupholders. A three-spoke steering wheel evokes the proper sportscar themes.
Chrysler doesn't admit to any production plans for the affordable sports car concept - but then again, the car hasn't even been seen in public. Stay tuned as TheCarConnection reports from the Geneva show floor in March.
Preliminary Specifications
Engine 2.4-liter petrol World Engine
Maximum Power 172 hp SAE (128 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Maximum Torque 165 lb.-ft. (224 Nm) @ 4400 rpm
Transmission Six-speed manual
Drivetrain Rear-wheel drive
Overall Length 156.5 (3974)
Overall Width (max. @ body) 68.3 (1736)
Overall Height 51.8 (1315)
Wheelbase 95.6 (2429)
Overhang, Front 30.6 (777)
Overhang, Rear 30.3 (769)
Curb Weight (estimated) 2600 lbs. (1179 kg)
Tire Size, Front/Rear 58.7 (1491)
Wheel Size 19 x 8 in.
Outer Diameter 25.2 (640)
Exterior Color Bright Amber Pearl
Interior Color Carbon Black
02-12-2007, 12:48 PM
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It's quirky and I kinda like it.
It reminds me of a DeTomaso Mangusta but with a more chiseled design. The front view is very aggressive but at an angle it loses that muscularity. The rear is serviceable but a little bland for so much surface area.
Also, I'd get rid of the notched wheel wells and go with a smooth arc.
Make it RWD with a slightly staggered setup and I think it works.
It reminds me of a DeTomaso Mangusta but with a more chiseled design. The front view is very aggressive but at an angle it loses that muscularity. The rear is serviceable but a little bland for so much surface area.
Also, I'd get rid of the notched wheel wells and go with a smooth arc.
Make it RWD with a slightly staggered setup and I think it works.
02-12-2007, 01:05 PM
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The dash is great. What's wrong with it?
Front end looks awkward... they need to rework the headlights. I like the flared quarter panels in the 3/4 shot but the rear end is
And 170 HP from a 2.4L 4-cyl?
Mazda's already doing that with their 2.0L and not to mention the Miata is a lot lighter than 2600 lbs.
02-12-2007, 02:03 PM
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It's a bit of a mish-mash of styling cues and the wheel arches are a bit odd, but overall I like it a lot. The front is obviously cribbed from the Viper, the back from a TT, and the interior is a bit retro-roadster-ish. I like the interior details too, unlike the Sky/Solstice. (The Sky's door panel is ridiculously cheap -- it's a single piece of hard plastic. Really.) And I don't mind the fake aluminum trim as long as it keeps costs down (the TSX uses it too).
There's no shots of the top up though ... I hope they're not trying to hide something.
Edit: yeah, an SRT version would rock. C'mon, let's see a HEMI or the 8L Viper engine. Please?
There's no shots of the top up though ... I hope they're not trying to hide something.
Edit: yeah, an SRT version would rock. C'mon, let's see a HEMI or the 8L Viper engine. Please?
02-12-2007, 02:03 PM
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Very, very nice concept. I looks like it'd eat the Miata for lunch.
I kind of doubt Dodge's small engine will do a better job.
The dash looks simple and I think that's fine.
02-12-2007, 02:11 PM
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?? The car looks good, but no one knows how it drives, which is what really matters.
I kind of doubt Dodge's small engine will do a better job.
I kind of doubt Dodge's small engine will do a better job.
In fact, I hope this becomes the SRT-4. Making a Caliber SRT-4 is like sticking a firecracker in a turd ...