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Dodge: Dart News **To Be Discontinued (Page 3)
Dodge has revived its historic Dart nameplate for a new compact sedan based on the European-market Alfa Romeo Giulietta. Although we’ll have to wait until early January for the Dart’s full reveal at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, the Michigan automaker has given up the goods on some of the Dart’s details. The two teaser images released so far indicate that the front and rear fascias draw heavily on the rest of Dodge’s lineup. Up front, we can see the company’s trademark crosshair grille, which blends into swept-back headlamps that are less conventional than those seen on the Charger. But the Charger’s familial ties are obvious out back, where the Dart gets what looks like an almost identical LED tail lamp treatment and what Dodge says is a class-exclusive dual exhaust setup. We haven’t seen the Dart’s interior, but Dodge tells us to mark our calendars for December 13, when it will offer up a few additional teasers. The Dart rides on Fiat’s Compact U.S. Wide architecture, which initially debuted on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta. Boasted what Dodge says is an industry-topping 68 percent high strength steel content, the platform is likely to be very stiff and rigid. Dodge says that the Dart will ride on a fully independent suspension and will offer 18-inch wheels as an option. Under its hood, Dart will offer three 16-valve four-cylinder engine choices: A pair of new 2.0 and 2.4-liter engines codenamed Tigershark or a Fiat-developed 1.4-liter turbocharged MultiAir four-cylinder. The 2.4-liter Tigershark engine will also feature Fiat’s MultiAir technology, the same combustion-optimizing design used in the Fiat 500. Dodge has not announced specific power outputs for the engines, although it did state that three transmission choices will be on offer. Dart will be built at Chrysler’s Belvidere, Illinois, assembly plant, a facility that currently puts together its Jeep Patriot and Compass models. http://i39.tinypic.com/f21vf9.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/302mjv9.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2vkng2f.jpg |
Three tranny choices? Hm....6 MT, 9 DCT and some current gen AT for the low end models?
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Looks like the love child from an unfortunate (read drunken) union between a Challenger and a Neon.
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Typical. They see that the rear of the Charger looks good, so they stick it on everything.
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I'll be interested to see the final, finished product.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
(Post 13404725)
Looks like the love child from an unfortunate (read drunken) union between a Challenger and a Neon.
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pass..... I think they are going to mess this one up
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Color me interested. I love Alfa Romeos, if that's what this truly is.
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I think that alfa romeo Giulietta looks nice, but they are gonna make this ugly the way only dodge knows how
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reminds me of chevy sticking the camaro tail on the malibu. in both cases, it does not work. hopefully they did their homework and the car is competitive.
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...and bring back the SWINGER edition and logo too.
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ironic, i saw a dart yesterday and had no idea wtf it was.
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
(Post 13404886)
Color me interested. I love Alfa Romeos, if that's what this truly is.
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Front end looks ok but the back end looks like it goes up way to high? Any idea on the size of this car? Is it a compact like a Civic?
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Originally Posted by biker
(Post 13405260)
Like the previous collaboration with MB, the end Dodge product will have only slight indications of the underlying make. You are not going to get an Alfa interior nor sheet metal that hints at its Fiat roots.
I'm not so worried about the looks as I am the powertrains and driving experience. |
Originally Posted by ttribe
(Post 13404725)
Looks like the love child from an unfortunate (read drunken) union between a Challenger and a Neon.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
(Post 13405696)
And every ass end of a BMW, doesn't look alike, hell front end and sides as well. Hard to tell them difference between a 1, 3 or 5 (add an X to that for their SUV's) most of the time.
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"Historic" Dart nameplate?
What was so "historic" about it back then....other that it was a ho-hum car..... |
Originally Posted by dom
(Post 13405295)
Front end looks ok but the back end looks like it goes up way to high? Any idea on the size of this car? Is it a compact like a Civic?
Originally Posted by jupitersolo
(Post 13405696)
And every ass end of a BMW, doesn't look alike, hell front end and sides as well. Hard to tell them difference between a 1, 3 or 5 (add an X to that for their SUV's) most of the time....IMO.
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So, Neon redone...?
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Dare I say that I'm liking what I see so far. Interested to learn more about the features and other specs.
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I see this as being a very important car for the Dodge nameplate...so heres to hoping they get it right.
It seems this will be their compact model...replacing the shitty caliber. It is meant to be a high volume car. I'm seeing/guessing the style will have bit more euro in the design with a hint of the American muscle. Hopefully, the abundance of engine and transmission choices doesn't hurt it out of the gate giving consumers too much choice that they can't make up their minds. And on top of that...hopefully these newer 4 cyl engines are good engines. An SRT model of this car couldn't be very potent and good looking. We'll see in the coming months. I feel like this car could potentially make or break Dodge as they are finally cresting the hill and making really good products. |
Hmmm....so then what happens to the 200? I thought in the long run everything from mid-sized down would be some Fiat platform whore job while everything bigger would be traditional Detroit iron (Charger, etc.).
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I would buy a Focus over this car but I'm still curious to see how it turns out.
I don't think Chrysler can help themselves right now. With the exception of the Challenger, the rest of their cars are curiously designed at best. |
It looks nice, but I need to see the whole profile. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by 05TLdcc
(Post 13406006)
The rear end looks really high but I think that's just the body line messing with the eyes.
fixed. |
Originally Posted by jupitersolo
(Post 13410100)
Every thing in here is about IMO, so just make sure you add that to every post you make as well.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
(Post 13406776)
I would buy a Focus over this car but I'm still curious to see how it turns out.
I don't think Chrysler can help themselves right now. With the exception of the Challenger, the rest of their cars are curiously designed at best. Granted, they are the top of the line models, but I think they look pretty damn good myself. http://images.automodifiedesign.com/...3-1024x680.jpg http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/do...203101_717.jpg http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...r-300-srt8.jpg http://carreleasedates.com/wp-conten...e-Ram-1500.jpg https://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog...rokeesrt8a.jpg |
^^^ Any time I try to talk about the Charger I end up feeling like Thermon ...
But the Charger is a mess. The Grand Cherokee, Challenger, and 300C SRT-8 are attractive. I'll give them that. I just wouldn't buy a Chrysler product. I don't like their corporate design theme or the choices they make from an ergonomic/material perspective. |
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've driven a 2011 charger v6 and it was a pretty decent car. Good power from that v6 and the ride was good as well. The styling isn't for everyone, sure, but I like it. :shrug:
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Looks interesting. Cohesive at least.
I think Chrysler has produced great designs recently. (300, Grand Cherokee, Challenger) The 200, while impressive for a facelift, is still odd looking. And while I love the rear of the new Charger, it isn't as cohesive in design as it could've been. It has some odd angles and cues. We own two Chryslers (2006 & 2007, and both a product from a merger) and both have been problem free. We've only had one issue that the dealer promptly fixed under warranty. |
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This car looks really promising. Hopefully the driving dynamics and everything are up to snuff to match the rest of what looks like a solid package
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http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9...interior11.jpg
he better slow the fuck up and turn down Kaskade if he has a turn in 200 ft! |
Interesting. Looks like the dash flow
Follows the same lead as the charger...so people who don't love that design probably won't love this one. |
Originally Posted by myron
(Post 13404932)
I think that alfa romeo Giulietta looks nice, but they are gonna make this ugly the way only dodge knows how
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from their website:
The all-new Dart is built with a modern blend of precision craftsmanship, state-of-the-art technology, exciting bursts of color and hand-sculpted shapes typically found in more expensive vehicle segments. Dart is loaded with cool amenities, unexpected delights, and surprises of color throughout. Packaged in the footprint of a compact car, the 2013 Dodge Dart features the interior spaciousness of a mid-sized sedan. The high-tech centerpiece of the all-new 2013 Dodge Dart houses the available UConnect Touch 8.4-inch touchscreen multimedia center -- the largest touch-screen in its class. Class-leading safety is highlighted by segment-exclusive available blind spot monitoring and rear cross path detection and an unsurpassed 10 standard airbags. The all-new 2013 Dodge Dart offers 12 exterior colors, 14 interior color and trim combinations, six wheel options, three engine options and three transmissions. And the combinations are multiplied exponentially, as Mopar® will also offer hundreds of customization options. Available "racetrack" lighting surrounds the floating island bezel which houses the segment-exclusive 7-inch Thin Film Transistor (TFT) customizable gauge cluster display with light pipe surround. |
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which engine would be more fun?
the 2.4 multiair I4 or the 1.4 turbo? |
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