Dodge: Challenger News **2018 SRT Demon Version Details (page 21)** - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community



Dodge: Challenger News **2018 SRT Demon Version Details (page 21)**

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-13-2005, 11:41 AM   #1
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Dodge: Challenger News **2018 SRT Demon Version Details (page 21)**

Likely Challenger: Dodge prepping a rear-drive coupe to take on Ford's Mustang - - By RICK KRANZ | Automotive News - - Source: Autoweek

Quote:
DETROIT -- Watch out, Ford Mustang. Dodge is preparing a challenger.

In fact, it's likely to be called Challenger.

Chrysler plans to resurrect a respected name from the pony car era for a rear-wheel-drive Mustang fighter, industry sources say. The car is expected in 2009 on the LX platform, the basis of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum and Charger.

"It is a two-door, essentially a competitor for the Mustang," says Catherine Madden, a production analyst for industry research group Global Insight. "They are really excited about it."

Madden says the sport coupe is planned to debut in 2009, when the next-generation LX vehicles are scheduled to be re-engineered and restyled.

"They would be able to make some additional investment in the platform, make some adjustments for that product" at that time, she says.

"The enthusiasm for that product," Madden says, is "very big."

Chrysler hopes to sell 60,000 to 70,000 of the cars a year, she says. An assembly site was not identified. Production of the 300, Magnum and recently introduced Charger is expected to fill Chrysler's Brampton, Ontario, assembly plant.

Chrysler officials are not talking about the car, but industry analysts say they are familiar with the plans.

Jim Hall, vice president of industry analysis at AutoPacific Inc., says he isn't sure Chrysler can pull it off. "They have a lot of stuff that has to be cleared off the table before they start playing around with that car," he says.

The redesigned 2005 Mustang has exceeded initial sales estimates. Ford expects to build 192,000 Mustangs this year, and most retail units are selling at a price near the sticker.

The 1970-74 Challenger was Dodge's answer to the original Mustang, as well as the Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird, Mercury Cougar and AMC Javelin.

And, yes, the original Challenger had a Hemi V-8.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 11:42 AM   #2
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
The fire continues from the Chrysler part of DCX. And with the $40B earmarked to start arriving soon, it will only expand. Good for them.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 11:44 AM   #3
dom
Senior Moderator
 
dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 41
Posts: 47,711
Thanked 797 Times in 659 Posts
I was going to post this 5 min ago, but I figured you were doing the usual Autoweek updates.

This move makes plenty of sense. Although they probly could have been in the game today with a 2 door, MT optional Charger.
dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 11:44 AM   #4
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
So let's see... 250HP base engine, 350HP Hemi and 425HP SRT8 version. Or by the time it goes to production, these numbers can only be...higher.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 11:46 AM   #5
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dom
I was going to post this 5 min ago, but I figured you were doing the usual Autoweek updates.


Hey we all can post news here. So go ahead...post away
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 11:49 AM   #6
dom
Senior Moderator
 
dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 41
Posts: 47,711
Thanked 797 Times in 659 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavriil


Hey we all can post news here. So go ahead...post away

I like your format.
dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 12:24 PM   #7
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Age: 37
Posts: 5,577
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Mustang needs competition. Ford will have to improve the S197 over it's product life to match the competition. Hopefully the Challenger comes with an IRS.
Maximized is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 12:27 PM   #8
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION GM!!!!!! Chevy officials said not long got that the Monte Carlo was all the coupe the needed!!! WTF!! Get a RWD platform for the masses in the U.S. ASAP, and get the fuckin' Camaro back. GM's going to watch the whole parade go buy (oh, but they've pushed up the GMT900, so everything's okay).

Good for D/C... they've realized that this RWD trend (with a new, heighted awareness that the consumers are more educated these days) isn't going anywhere. And they've done a great job of capitalizing on the Hemi name (they're even enlarging the badges now).

Last edited by titan; 06-13-2005 at 12:31 PM.
titan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 12:28 PM   #9
Registered Member
 
Shawn S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Hellertown, Pa. USA
Age: 50
Posts: 20,015
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's a good idea from Dodge, but they should have done it in 2004/2005 while the V8 HEMI craze is hot, not 2009.
Shawn S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 12:34 PM   #10
dom
Senior Moderator
 
dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 41
Posts: 47,711
Thanked 797 Times in 659 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by titan
ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION GM!!!!!! Chevy officials said not long got that the Monte Carlo was all the coupe the needed!!! WTF!! Get a RWD platform for the masses in the U.S. ASAP, and get the fuckin' Camaro back. GM's going to watch the whole parade go buy (oh, but they've pushed up the GMT900, so everything's okay).

Good for D/C... they've realized that this RWD trend (with a new, heighted awareness that the consumers are more educated these days) isn't going anywhere. And they've done a great job of capitalizing on the Hemi name (they're even enlarging the badges now).

A slimer, better styled and slightly cheaper GTO would have got the job done IMO.
dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 12:49 PM   #11
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dom
A slimer, better styled and slightly cheaper GTO would have got the job done IMO.
Agreed. Nothing's really wrong with the GTO. The price point could be a little cheaper, but a V6 standard would really bring down the price. The GTO was a rushed rebadged when it came over, off of an antiquated platform. It doesn't even off many of the creature features of today's cars, like a sunroof. The next one will be on a new platform, and will be better equipped to fight the Charger, etc.
titan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 01:29 PM   #12
Changin bulbs since '73
iTrader: (1)
 
Loseit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chi-town burbs
Age: 44
Posts: 8,110
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts
finally, the return of the coupe. '09 is too far
Loseit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 02:58 PM   #13
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NYC
Age: 35
Posts: 33
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What was wrong with releasing the charger as a coupe option and release it with the sedan?
stopsign is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 02:59 PM   #14
dom
Senior Moderator
 
dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 41
Posts: 47,711
Thanked 797 Times in 659 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopsign
What was wrong with releasing the charger as a coupe option and release it with the sedan?

I think the platform is just too damn big to be converted to a coupe.
dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 04:48 PM   #15
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: philly
Posts: 4,426
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It sounds like a good idea, but 2009 is too far off and the market will have changed again most likely. It would be a perfect car for a 2006 release cause these cars are hot right now, they may fizzle in 4 years though.
heyitsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 04:56 PM   #16
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 38
Posts: 45,786
Thanked 3,422 Times in 1,787 Posts
Should be interesting.

I actually test drove the magnum today, and looked at the chargers.

sadly, they are ok cars...they didnt blow my skirt up. The v8 has lag, and the suspension is floaty. I was hoping for more.
Sarlacc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2005, 07:00 PM   #17
Senior Moderator
 
GreenMonster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Swansea, MA
Age: 51
Posts: 35,219
Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts
Cool. Having more coupes out there is always good for the coupe buyer...

Waiting till 2009 might not be the greatest idea, as the coupe market might cool down again and there might be increased competition (where's the new Camaro??).

One of the reasons the Mustang is doing so well is that there isn't any "real" competition to it (rwd coupe w/ a v8 for $26K).
GreenMonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 03:08 AM   #18
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: miami
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
All those dodges are UUUUUUUUUUUGLY.... the mUstang should be fine.
dondos2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 06:47 AM   #19
Registered Member
 
biker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Age: 53
Posts: 11,322
Thanked 94 Times in 73 Posts
This is so far out, it might be on and off a few times between now and then.
biker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 09:09 AM   #20
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
 
Black CL-S 4-Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: The City of Syrup Screwston, Texas
Posts: 14,078
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
I agree with what has been said here, 2009 is not a good idea.
Black CL-S 4-Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 11:01 AM   #21
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dom
I like your format.

Thank you.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 11:02 AM   #22
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by titan
WTF!! Get a RWD platform for the masses in the U.S. ASAP, and get the fuckin' Camaro back. .
Isnt that what the Kappa is for?
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 11:05 AM   #23
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dom
A slimer, better styled and slightly cheaper GTO would have got the job done IMO.
I think the Camaro is more suited for that job. I think the GTO is fine where it's priced currently and if anything it should go up a little.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 11:50 AM   #24
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Zapata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: burbs of philly
Age: 39
Posts: 19,393
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
price is huge if they want to compete with the mustang. 40k isn't going to cut it.
Zapata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 12:00 PM   #25
dom
Senior Moderator
 
dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 41
Posts: 47,711
Thanked 797 Times in 659 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavriil
I think the Camaro is more suited for that job. I think the GTO is fine where it's priced currently and if anything it should go up a little.

Gav, they sell just ovwer 1K GTO's a month at heaviliy discounted prices. While I agree the Camaro is better suited to take on the Mustang the GTO is either too expensive or just too boringly styled to be a sucess. I think its alittle of both.
dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 10:51 AM   #26
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavriil
Isnt that what the Kappa is for?
Yes, absolutely. But so far, the only Kappas we have are the Soltice and Sky (next year). Those cars are more about balance and finesse, as opposed to raw power. If the took a Kappa, and enlarged it a bit, stuck a V6 and V8 in there, called it Camaro, and put that against the Mustang, then we're talking. Until then, our Kappas have their sights set on Miata and the Z4.
titan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2005, 12:51 PM   #27
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 47
Posts: 259
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Good for Dodge/ Chrysler, they got some damn car guys working over there....
AcuraGT-3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2005, 09:19 PM   #28
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Greenlighted



Motor Trend mag is reporting that the Dodge Challenger has been greenlighted for production for MY 2010. It will go right against the Mustang with a 350HP V8 and a 250HP V6, plus possibly an SRT8 6.1L version showing up later. No cabrio planned.

gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2005, 09:54 PM   #29
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: philly
Posts: 4,426
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Umm that can barely compete with what ford has now. 2010, ford could be pushing 700hp if they continue at the same rate they have been on as far as svt.
heyitsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2005, 11:04 PM   #30
Got a Job!
iTrader: (1)
 
Dem1K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NYC (NoLita)
Age: 32
Posts: 4,343
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
how fucking retarded...god damn't they're dumb
Dem1K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2005, 03:54 AM   #31
Registered Member
 
biker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Age: 53
Posts: 11,322
Thanked 94 Times in 73 Posts
Any projection past a couple of MY is meaningless - it could be cancelled anytime between now and then - see GM RWD projections.
biker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2005, 04:19 PM   #32
Registered Member
 
cusdaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 39
Posts: 7,083
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dem1K
how fucking retarded...god damn't they're dumb
why?

The Mustang is highly profitable and since the Camaro and Firebird died a number of years ago, it has no true competitor in that space. I think it's a pretty smart idea by Dodge and if they can keep the cost down, it may be very profitable like their other RWD models of late.
cusdaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2005, 04:24 PM   #33
Got a Job!
iTrader: (1)
 
Dem1K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NYC (NoLita)
Age: 32
Posts: 4,343
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
oh, so take 5 take years to come out with a model that is barely up to par with today's standards? The Challenger was Dodge's main MUSCLE car back in the late 60s-early 70s, as well as the Charger. Might as well continue that reign.
Dem1K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2005, 05:35 PM   #34
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by biker
Any projection past a couple of MY is meaningless - it could be cancelled anytime between now and then - see GM RWD projections.

BTW the mag also reports that a RWD Pontiac has been greenlighted. THough, all Buicks will remain FWD (I am guessing AWD may be possible also for Buick).
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2005, 09:36 PM   #35
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 47
Posts: 259
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Good news here!
AcuraGT-3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 10:42 AM   #36
Registered Member
 
biker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Age: 53
Posts: 11,322
Thanked 94 Times in 73 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavriil
BTW the mag also reports that a RWD Pontiac has been greenlighted. THough, all Buicks will remain FWD (I am guessing AWD may be possible also for Buick).
While some really expensive platforms take a while to design, I'm guessing in today's world on computers that 2 years is typical time between paper concept and prototype and maybe another year for production. Anything beofre that only exists on paper. It's only once a manufacturer starts spending money on a platform/model that reality sets in. What if DCX is in the same shape as GM is today 3 years from now. What will be the first thing to get the ax? New models. The only reason this Challanger might have a good shot is that it will just be a whored out platform version of other cars so developments costs will be somewhat low.
biker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2005, 10:52 AM   #37
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rising to the Challenger: Detroit auto show debut for Dodge muscle coupe concept - - By BOB GRITZINGER - - Source: Autoweek

Quote:
To all those purists who still canít forgive Dodge for building a four-door Charger, hereís your answer: the 2006 Dodge Challenger concept. The Dodge boys released a sketch of the car to the world, but we obtained these exclusive spy photos of the car, which will premiere at the North American International Auto Show in January in Detroit.



Challenger draws on the 1970 model as the icon of the series, says Tom Tremont of Chryslerís Pacifica studio in California. But instead of merely recreating that car, designers tried to build the Challenger most people see in their mindís eye, without imperfections like the tucked under wheels and long front overhang of the old car. At the same time, the concept incorporates distinctive Challenger cues like the rear fender kick, wide mouth front end, functional hood scoops and rectangular exhaust tips.

Built on a shortened Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger chassis (116-inch wheelbase vs. 120 inches), the Challenger gets a 6.1-liter Hemi hooked to a six-speed manual transmission with a pistol grip shifter.

All thatís left to ponder is ďwill they build it?Ē With all the hardware in place and a primed marketplace, we canít see why Dodge wouldnít rise to this challenge.


gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2005, 10:59 AM   #38
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
That's a little to retro. Instead of making it a modern looking version with a bunch of retro design added in to it (like the Mustang), the Chanllenger looks like it's been transported through time. One thing's for sure, though. It'll be a fuckin' best with the 6.1 Hemi and 6sp manual with the pistol grip.
titan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2005, 01:04 PM   #39
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
 
gavriil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Washington DC (NOVA)
Age: 46
Posts: 16,399
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I agree. It is a little too retro.
gavriil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2005, 01:35 PM   #40
101 years of heartache...
 
gocubsgo55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago's North Side/Champaign, IL
Age: 30
Posts: 3,076
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i would easily mistake that for a well-maintained muscle car
gocubsgo55 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Subaru: BRZ News **STi Version Revealed (page 11)** Yumcha Automotive News 470 05-31-2017 04:59 PM
GeigerCars: Custom Charger (based on Dodge Charger) News Yumcha Automotive News 2 11-06-2016 10:04 PM
Reuters: Carmakers forced back to bigger engines in new emissions era iforyou Automotive News 4 10-25-2016 12:50 PM
SOLD: 2004 Acura TL (113k, manual, NBP, ASPEC, very clean) ❤ ❤ Location: Columbus, Oh ❤ ❤ maharajamd Member Cars for Sale 3 10-20-2016 05:10 PM
CLOSED: THREAD DOES NOT CONFORM To THE CARS FOR SALE FORUM RULES (FORMAT) maharajamd Member Cars for Sale 1 10-18-2016 01:14 PM


Tags
2005, 51, challenger, dodge, door, f1, forums, hellcat, hemi, i have, india, mazda, modified, r/t, speakers, srt, vehicles

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:28 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: