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I guess if your definition of a car 'enthusiast' includes not caring about purchasing something that may give you headaches down the road or leave you stranded somewhere then you're probably correct.
Hmm.. What cars does CR usually reccomend? Corolla, CRV, Elantra etc..
Man those really get my heart pumping!
I D C how my Acura did in the crash test. The test gets harder and harder ever year. Automakers are expected to improve the vehicle accordingly. If you look at the object they use it does not apply to the actual off-set driving challenge. Another vehicle is softer than the object that is struck in the test (apples to oranges).
The challenge is to drive defensively and learn how to avoid the accident in the first place.
And you ended up with a TSX because it gets your heart pumping?
My response was I ended up with a TSX not because it gets my heart pumping, but because I needed a first car (4 doors, reliable, somewhat fun etc..). The next car I buy will get my heart pumping, because I won't have to worry about it being reliable, having 4 doors etc..
The Consumer's Union (CU) publishes Consumer Report's (CR) so these are kind of the same- kind of like GM & Chevrolet have a close connection together.
Anyway, I agree that Consumer Reports won't always pick cars that excite sporting drivers. They did pick the Tesla Model S as best car tested though and I have to agree having driven one. CR also likes the Porsche 911 and Corvette so that should please some of you. They also like the Infinity G37 too.
I think the CR ratings are better with used cars since they show actual problem areas in a simple manner.
Detroit has come clawing back from the brink with award-winning products, but Japanese and luxury brands still have the best lineups of cars and light trucks in the industry, the editors of the influential shopping guide Consumer Reports say.
Japanese automakers captured 7 of the top 10 ranked brands rated for overall reliability and road-test performance in tests conducted by the magazine; the top-ranked Detroit brands -- Buick and GMC -- tied to rank 12th, and 5 Detroit brands rounded out the bottom 5.
Consumer Reports' top-rated brand was again Lexus. Toyota Motor Corp.'s luxury brand received a score of 79 out of 100, the same as last year, for a car and SUV lineup the magazine deemed "quiet, plush, and very reliable" -- though less engaging to drive than those of some rivals.
Among the top 10 brands, Lexus was followed by Acura, Audi, Subaru and Toyota (tied for 4th place), Mazda, Honda, Infiniti, Mercedes-Benz and BMW and Volvo (tied for 10th place).
The biggest gainer in the rankings, Audi, surged from 8th place in 2013 to 3rd place this year, thanks to a lineup that received the top score on road tests and showed signs of improved reliability. The German luxury brand's score of 74 fell behind only Lexus and Acura -- which scored a 75, a point better than last year.
"Audi has been making very impressive vehicles, but what's really impressive about them is: They're reliable too," said Jake Fisher, director of auto testing for Consumer Reports.
The magazine, which tests cars in Connecticut and has 8 million magazine subscribers, released the results of its 2014 "report card" at an event today in Washington.
Overall brand scores are a composite of the average road-test score for each model tested by the magazine, as well as each brand's average predicted-reliability score for models tested, based on the problems reported by subscribers in Consumer Reports' annual auto survey.
Detroit's woes
All Detroit 3 brands ranked from middling to subpar. The score given to Cadillac, last year's top-ranked Motor City marque, plunged from 63 last year to 54, largely due to electronic controls that Consumer Reports found confusing.
Buick, GMC and Chrysler, ranked 14th with a score of 62, rated best among the Detroit brands, ahead of mass-market rivals Kia, Hyundai, Volkswagen and Nissan, but shy of Subaru, Toyota, Mazda and Honda.
Dodge, the last-place brand in 2013, moved up in the rankings thanks to a redesigned Durango SUV that the magazine deemed "excellent," if unproven, and decent reliability scores for the Dodge Dart compact sedan.
Coming in last were Ford and Jeep, which both scored a 50.
Consumer Reports said Ford's struggles were due to lingering complaints about the MyFord Touch infotainment system, and Jeep's were attributed to a "crude and outdated" lineup. Though the Jeep Grand Cherokee did well on the track, the magazine dinged its weak reliability scores and said the new Cherokee "isn't that competitive."
Fisher said the Detroit 3 are "going the right way" with more recent products like the Chevrolet Impala, which the magazine says is the best large sedan on the market, based on road tests.
"If GM had a whole lineup of Impalas," Fisher said, "they'd be right on top, quite honestly."
But Fisher called Ford a "sad story."
"The Ford Fusion, not only does it look, but it drives like a good European sports car. It really does," Fisher said. "The problem is the reliability, and that's what's dragging down that brand."
Consumer Reports did not rank Fiat, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mini, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Ram, Scion, Smart and Tesla because it had too few recently tested models from those brands to assess.
But 2 of those brands -- Ram and Tesla -- received high marks for key models in what the magazine calls its top picks in 10 key segments.
Plaudits for Ram, Tesla
Chrysler Group's redesigned Ram 1500 was rated the best pickup on the market, with a quiet cabin and smooth ride that Consumer Reports says makes the truck "surprisingly refined and inviting."
The magazine rated the new 2014 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra slightly higher than the Ram on road tests, but said today it lacks enough data on the reliability of the 2 GM models to justify naming either of them the best in the segment.
It is the 1st time in 16 years that Chrysler Group has cracked the top picks list, which historically has been dominated by Japanese brands such as Toyota and Honda. Japanese brands have won more than 70% of the spots in the magazine's "top pick" rankings since 1997, including 7 of 10 segments last year.
They won 5 of 10 this year. Honda and Subaru were the only brands to win more than 1 segment, receiving 2 "top picks" honors apiece.
"There was a time when a handful of brands dominated our Top Picks list, but in recent years we've seen a more diverse group make the cut," Rik Paul, automotive editor at Consumer Reports, said in a statement.
Also included in that diverse group is Tesla, which had its Model S sedan rated best vehicle overall. Consumer Reports has praised the Model S since its launch in late 2012, giving it the magazine's best ever score: 99 out of 100.
The other newcomers to the list of Top Picks were the Hyundai Santa Fe, which replaced the Toyota Highlander atop the magazine's mid-sized SUV segment, and the Subaru Forester, which replaced the Honda CR-V atop the small SUV segment.
Segment-by-segment winners
Overall: Tesla Model S
Compact car: Subaru Impreza
Mid-sized sedan: Honda Accord (4-cylinder)
Small SUV: Subaru Forester
Mid-sized SUV: Hyundai Santa Fe
Pickup truck: Ram 1500
Minivan: Honda Odyssey
Green car: Toyota Prius
Luxury car: Audi A6
Sports sedan: BMW 328i
If gas prices continue to go up as fast as they are. The American makers are going to need more bailout money. Even the ultra-luxury/supercar makers are making hybrids. They know what's coming.
If gas prices continue to go up as fast as they are. The American makers are going to need more bailout money. Even the ultra-luxury/supercar makers are making hybrids. They know what's coming.
Are you speaking of the giant rise in electricity costs coming/already here?
In Kalifornia, not only are the electricity costs going to skyrocket due to global warming bills that force renewable energy, but also the socialist are now tabling a 60% increase in the states gas tax as a "carbon tax".
Truth is, the socialist are screwing the tax payer both ways, via a giant tax money grab courtesy of a convenient excuse called global warming, or climate change, or whatever flavor of the month it's being called.
Consumer Reports' annual auto report doesn't just recommend the best new cars to buy, based on its data. It also tells you the new cars it thinks you should avoid — no matter the deal or the bit of styling that appeals to you.
And it's perhaps a more interesting list than the menu of good cars. At least it can be a good place to start an argument. TOP PICKS: Consumer Reports' 10 best vehicle list
Here are the cars to avoid, by category, with some of CR's comments on why they rejected them: Subcompact cars
Smart ForTwo (tiny, two-passenger cabin, a herky-jerky transmission, an under-powered engine ... a dumb choice)
Scion iQ (rear seat is awful, the cabin is loud, acceleration is molasses-like)
Chevrolet Spark (ride is stiff, the dinky 1.2-liter engine is slow, and handling is lackluster)
Dodge Dart (unrefined ... more expensive than most competitors)
Midsize sedans
Chrysler 200/Dodge Avenger (corporate cousins ... plenty of them on dealers' lots at a discount. Don't be tempted.)
Large sedans
Ford Taurus (ridiculously cramped for such a large car ... controls for its MyFord Touch infotainment system are complicated and distracting ... reliability has been sub-par)
Luxury sedans
Lexus IS (falls short — very short)
Lincoln MKS (doesn't cut it as a luxury sedan)
BMW 7-Series (a ponderous, technology-laden vehicle with ... ungainly handling)
Wagons & minivans
Honda Crosstour (ungainly handling ... unintuitive and complex touch-screen radio system)
Small SUVs
Jeep Compass (2.4-liter engine is rough and sluggish ... cabin is cramped, cheaply trimmed)
Jeep Patriot (compliant ride and mostly simple controls. But little else stands out.)
Jeep Cherokee with 2.4-liter engine (half-baked ... under-powered and not very fuel-efficient, and the nine-speed automatic transmission is unrefined and unresponsive)
Mitsubishi Outlander (handles clumsily, the ride is fairly stiff, and the interior feels cheap)
Midsize & large SUVs
Ford Edge (unrefined powertrain ... ride is jittery and road noise invades the cabin. And the MyFord Touch system is convoluted to use)
Nissan Armada (overall fuel economy of 13 mpg is abysmal, reliability is poor and ownership costs are the worst in the category)
Dodge Journey (below-average reliability ... lack of agility ... transmission is reluctant to downshift)
Luxury SUVs
Volvo XC90 (an old design that wasn't that competitive when new)
Lincoln MKX (handling is clumsy, the My Lincoln Touch control system is frustrating, and it has been unreliable)
Land Rover Range Rover Evoque (choppy ride, a noisy cabin, and disconcerting emergency handling)
The increasingly competitive automotive landscape produced four new winners among Consumer Reports' 2014 Top Picks announced today in 10 vehicle categories.
The list of best all-around vehicles by category is the highlight of CR's much-watched annual auto Issue, which also includes top used cars, best safety rankings and other ratings.
The new vehicles to break through as Top Picks in their categories are the Hyundai Santa Fe for large SUV, the Ram 1500 among pickups, Subaru Forester for small SUV and the Tesla Model S luxury sedan as best overall vehicle.
CR noted that before the Ram, the last Chrysler-built Top Pick was the 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It also noted that the dominance of Japanese-brand winners has slipped from 70% of the categories in 1997 in the various segments to 50%, the lowest in CR's 18 years of Top Picks. In addition, the 10 winners are from eight brands, with only Honda and Subaru having more than one.
"The competition in the marketplace has grown fierce. There was a time when a handful of brands dominated our Top Picks list, but in recent years, we've seen a more diverse group make the cut," said Rik Paul, CR's automotive editor. CR also cites other vehicles in each category that might be a buyer's best choice based on more individual needs, such as all-wheel drive, towing or more family room. It provides the category ranking, including all the vehicles getting CR's valuable "recommended" status.
The 2014 Top Picks and recommendations scored at or near the top in CR's testing of 260 vehicles, perform well in federal or insurance industry crash tests and have average or better predicted reliability in Consumer Reports' latest survey of owners of 1.1 million vehicles.
Here are the 10 Top Picks in the categories, with prices and some of the reasons CR cited for the picks (more details and videos of the Top Picks are available at the 2014 Autos Spotlight page on ConsumerReports.org): • BEST OVERALL Tesla Model S electric luxury sedan ($89,650). Exceptional acceleration, handling and ride, a "versatile" cabin in a car "brimming with innovation," plus a 225-mile driving range and as fast as 5-hour charges. • MIDSIZE SEDAN. Honda Accord with four-cylinder engine ($23,270). Roomy, well-equipped, competitively priced, with impressive 30-mpg overall gas mileage and 40 on the highway. CR cited agile handling, though noted that some rivals have a more comfortable ride. • COMPACT CAR. Subaru Impreza (sedan, $21,345; hatchback $22,345). This is Impreza's fourth year on top of the category. CR called Impreza's two versions "well-rounded packages" that include all-wheel-drive at affordable prices. It also cited handling and "an impressively compliant, absorbent ride" among the best in the class, plus good fuel economy for an AWD car.
• GREEN CAR. Toyota Prius ($26,750). While there are more hybrids on the market these days, CR says that for an 11th consecutive year, none beat the "combination of affordability, practicality and fuel efficiency" plus room and hatchback practicality of the Prius. It says the 44-mpg overall it measured is the most it has seen in a five-passenger, non-plug-in vehicle.
• LUXURY CAR. Audi A6. ($56,295) CR calls it "a joy to drive," with its supercharged V-6 and "super-smooth" eight-speed automatic in making A6 a Top Pick for a second year. It also cites "an impeccably finished, first-class cabin brimming with the latest in high-tech features." It also cites fuel efficiency that's a "respectable" 22 mpg overall, even with all-wheel drive for the gasoline version and 28 mpg for the diesel.
• SPORTS SEDAN. BMW 328i ($43,195). A winner for a second year, CR calls the current model roomier and more luxurious and says it "delivers excellent handling and a high fun-to-drive factor." CR also cites improved fuel efficiency of 28 mpg overall.
• SMALL SUV. Subaru Forester ($26,814). The redesigned 2014 Subaru Forester dethroned the Honda CR-V this year for top small SUV. CR cited its "space-efficient design" and said the big windows and doors offer "the easiest access and best visibility" in the category. Also best in class: 26 mpg overall and 35 on the highway, with all-wheel-drive.
• MIDSIZE SUV. Hyundai Santa Fe ($36,290). CR says the seven-passenger SUV offers a "comfortable ride, a quiet interior, a limo-like rear seat, and generous cargo area — yet doesn't feel too bulky to drive or park." It also cites Santa Fe's features for the price and a smooth V-6 that delivers a "decent" 20 mpg overall.
• MINIVAN: Honda Odyssey ($36,830) CR calls this "the most complete family vehicle available." It cites comfy second- and third-row seats that can be arranged for seating up to eight or to handle a variety of cargo needs. It calls the minivan "relatively fun to drive" and the gas mileage "decent." • PICKUP TRUCK: Ram 1500 ($42,810). CR calls the Ram "surprisingly refined and inviting" and says its unique coil-spring rear suspension make it "the most comfortable-riding truck." Also lauded was a "whisper-quiet" interior that seems like a luxury vehicle.
Consumer Reports' annual auto report doesn't just recommend the best new cars to buy, based on its data. It also tells you the new cars it thinks you should avoid — no matter the deal or the bit of styling that appeals to you.
Car owners are complaining about 2 features in modern cars
Matthew DeBord,Business Insider 18 hours ago
(The Tesla infotainment system in the Model X has some issues.Tesla Motors)
Consumer Reports is out with its 2016 Annual Auto Reliability Survey, and the watchdog publication has observed a troubling pair of complaints among vehicle owners and CR subscribers.
Advanced infotainment systems and more fuel-efficient multispeed transmissions are causing problems.
Neither issue should surprise anyone. In just about a decade, vehicles have gone from having radios, tape decks, and CD players to having complicated touchscreen infotainment interfaces that manage everything from GPS navigation to audio to smartphone integration.
Most automakers develop their own infotainment systems, and some work far better than others. But even with the ones that cause limited trouble, the kinks are still being worked out.
At Business Insider, we test out numerous infotainment systems, and while we don't much care for the less user-friendly versions, we don't usually have the vehicles long enough to see a lot of glitches. Every so often, however, we sample one that's a huge pain to make work properly or that freezes up — or is utterly frustrating to negotiate.
The more fuel-efficient transmissions are a different story. While 4-and 5-speed automatics used to be common — and were quite reliable — newer 7-, 8-, and 9-speed units have been introduced in recent years. The additional speeds or gearings, in concert with sophisticated engine-management computers, enable cars to serve up better MPGs.
That is, when they work properly.
Lately, we've found that some 8- and 9-speeds to misbehave when driving. Again, we don't test our sample cars to failure. But we can see that this might be a point of irritation for owners.
(Ah, for the good old days.Hollis Johnson)
What's disturbing about this is that the pace of infotainment development isn't slowing down. A great deal more tech is being foisted on consumers — both because it's possible and because car buyers are demanding it. And automakers are up against more stringent future fuel-economy standards for their fleets, to they have to come up with ways to increase MPGs overall, especially of they want to keep selling highly profitable big pickups and SUVs.
The auto industry has made tremendous strides in reliability over the past 2 decades, to the point that there aren't really any truly bad cars anymore.
But if this arms race on infotainment persists, and if carmakers can't come up with more basic ways to improve fuel economy, then the industry runs the risk of rolling back some of its hard-wrought reliability gains.
Car owners are complaining about 2 features in modern cars
Matthew DeBord,Business Insider 18 hours ago
(The Tesla infotainment system in the Model X has some issues.Tesla Motors)
Consumer Reports is out with its 2016 Annual Auto Reliability Survey, and the watchdog publication has observed a troubling pair of complaints among vehicle owners and CR subscribers.
Advanced infotainment systems and more fuel-efficient multispeed transmissions are causing problems.
Neither issue should surprise anyone. In just about a decade, vehicles have gone from having radios, tape decks, and CD players to having complicated touchscreen infotainment interfaces that manage everything from GPS navigation to audio to smartphone integration.
Most automakers develop their own infotainment systems, and some work far better than others. But even with the ones that cause limited trouble, the kinks are still being worked out.
At Business Insider, we test out numerous infotainment systems, and while we don't much care for the less user-friendly versions, we don't usually have the vehicles long enough to see a lot of glitches. Every so often, however, we sample one that's a huge pain to make work properly or that freezes up — or is utterly frustrating to negotiate.
The more fuel-efficient transmissions are a different story. While 4-and 5-speed automatics used to be common — and were quite reliable — newer 7-, 8-, and 9-speed units have been introduced in recent years. The additional speeds or gearings, in concert with sophisticated engine-management computers, enable cars to serve up better MPGs.
That is, when they work properly.
Lately, we've found that some 8- and 9-speeds to misbehave when driving. Again, we don't test our sample cars to failure. But we can see that this might be a point of irritation for owners.
(Ah, for the good old days.Hollis Johnson)
What's disturbing about this is that the pace of infotainment development isn't slowing down. A great deal more tech is being foisted on consumers — both because it's possible and because car buyers are demanding it. And automakers are up against more stringent future fuel-economy standards for their fleets, to they have to come up with ways to increase MPGs overall, especially of they want to keep selling highly profitable big pickups and SUVs.
The auto industry has made tremendous strides in reliability over the past 2 decades, to the point that there aren't really any truly bad cars anymore.
But if this arms race on infotainment persists, and if carmakers can't come up with more basic ways to improve fuel economy, then the industry runs the risk of rolling back some of its hard-wrought reliability gains.
I can speak to the infotainment issues, I cross shopped the mazda 3 sedan against the the Hyundai Elantra Limited and went with the Hyundai partially due to how hideously implemented and behind the times (no carplay or android auto) Mazda's system was. I really liked the mazda's handling and sportiness though. So far the tranny is buttery smooth with just the right amount of notch, but it only has less than 10k miles on it so far.
Building one great vehicle is easy. Making a whole portfolio of excellent ones is hard. We tell you which manufacturers stand out.
Feb. 28, 2017
Consistency is key. Consumer Reports' annual analysis reveals that some brands exhibit high-level performance across their lines. Many others do not.
In our 2017 analysis of which car brands make the best vehicles, Audi takes the top position for the second year in a row, followed by Porsche, BMW, Lexus, and Subaru. Although these are the same top five as last year, Porsche and BMW rose, and Lexus and Subaru moved down.
This year Chrysler, Acura, Infiniti, and Cadillac were the most upwardly mobile. Chrysler rose seven places, and the other three brands each moved up six places compared with last year.
Some of the standout brands benefit from a tiny roster. Tesla, the highest-ranked American brand, earns its position based on just two models. Likewise, Chrysler has one of the higher average road-test scores, but that’s also based on just two models: the 300 and Pacifica (low Overall Scores keep both from being recommended). Fiat, Jeep, Mitsubishi, and Land Rover remain stubbornly stuck at the bottom of the list.
To arrive at the rankings, we averaged the Overall Scores for new cars from every major automotive brand based on the vehicles we have purchased and tested, then we ranked them. Brands with just one tested model were omitted.
The Overall Score is the combination of our road tests, predicted reliability, owner satisfaction, and safety. For each brand we indicate the percentage of tested models that earned a recommended designation. This percentage reveals a meaningful differentiation. Only Porsche, BMW, and Mazda earned a recommendation on every model we tested. Audi, Honda, and Hyundai lead the other brands, with 86 percent of their tested lines being recommended.
From year to year we see movements in brand rankings because of changes in reliability and new road tests. Subaru dropped from second to fifth place because the previously very reliable Legacy and Outback are now rated only average, and the WRX/STI dropped to below average. Similarly, Mini dropped 11 places because the unreliable Cooper and Clubman weighed down the average Overall Score. Volkswagen tumbled eight spots because its reliability slid from average last year to below average for 2017.
Finally, the rankings do not reflect corporate behavior. Consumer Reports continues to push for consumers to be fully compensated for Audi, Porsche, Volkswagen, and other vehicles potentially affected by emissions cheating scandals.
Brand Report Card
To show how the car brands compare, we present them in rank order below based on the Overall Score. Roll your cursor over the brand name to see each brand's predicted reliability and owner satisfaction highlighted.
For further insights, a box appears during the rollover listing the selected brand's average Overall Score and road-test score.
Combined, these key factors show each brand measures up. Through this interactive, you'll see that every brand has its own combination of scores, with some being strong across the board and others having varied performance.
For example, top-ranked Audi has better-than-average predicted reliability and owner satisfaction—rather than receiving the highest scores. But the brand shines with an impressive 86-point average road-test score, contributing to the highest Overall Score of 81.
If you're reading this article on a smartphone, you will not be able to view the interactive.
Audi repeats as Consumer Reports' top brand; Tesla leads domestics
February 28, 2017 @ 12:45 pm, Vince Bond Jr.
Audi paced the industry for the second consecutive year in Consumer Reports’ latest Brand Report Card, while Tesla was the highest-ranked domestic brand -- ending Buick’s three-year streak.
Buick, however, did remain in the top 10 for the third straight year.
Meanwhile, three brands -- Porsche, BMW and Mazda -- had all of their vehicles earn Consumer Reports’ recommended designation. Mazda also had all of its models recommended in last year’s report.
Consumer Reports calculated overall scores by taking into account road test performance, predicted reliability, owner satisfaction and safety results for each tested model of a brand. The magazine’s auto team then averages those scores at the brand level to show which ones are making the best cars, the magazine says.
Consumer Reports ranked 31 brands. The magazine says brands must have at least two tested models to be included in the list, which leaves out Alfa Romeo, Genesis, Maserati, Ram and Smart.
The top five brands remained the same, but several switched places. While Audi (81) stayed in the top spot, Porsche (78) move up two spots to second place; BMW (77) rose two spots to third place; Lexus (77) dropped one spot to fourth; and Subaru (74) slipped three spots to fifth.
Kia, Mazda, Tesla, Honda and Buick rounded out the top 10.
“From year to year we see movements in brand rankings because of changes in reliability and new road tests,” the magazine said. “Subaru dropped from second to fifth place because the previously very reliable Legacy and Outback are now rated only average, and the WRX/STI dropped to below average.”
The bottom of the list was anchored by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles brands. Fiat (41) came in last, with Jeep (45), Mitsubishi (51), Land Rover (52) and Dodge (56) coming in just above Fiat.
But the news wasn’t all bad for FCA. Chrysler, which had only the 300 and Pacifica tested this year, saw the biggest rise of any brand after moving up seven spots to 19th place.
While Chrysler’s ranking was aided by its small lineup, its vehicles were among the top road-test performers after registering an 84 in that portion. Chrysler’s 84 road-test score was good enough to top upscale brands such as Lexus and Mercedes-Benz.
However, Chrysler’s road-test performances weren’t good enough to garner Consumer Reports’ recommendations for the 300 or Pacifica.
Acura, Infiniti and Cadillac were the other big gainers this year, with each brand jumping six spots. Acura rose to the 13th spot, Infiniti landed in 16th place and Cadillac ticked up to 18th.
I really want to get a 2018 S4 but I'm traumatized by Audi and how shitty and unreliable the last one I owned was.
Yeah, I leased this one. I can't see myself leasing long term, but I was a little nervous about my old A4's reliability. I'm having one minor annoyance with my current car, but it's not a big deal in my book.
That being said, I have never felt more satisfied getting out of a car than I have with this A4. The old one has a close second.
I really want to get a 2018 S4 but I'm traumatized by Audi and how shitty and unreliable the last one I owned was.
Traumatized? A little dramatic .. no?
I'm sure the 2018 model would treat you just fine, the 3.0T has proven to be a great drivetrain and it's not uncommon to see B8 S4s over 100,000+ with little issues.
I'm curious, what model did you have before and what issue(s) did you have with it?
Actually yes, I am traumatized to the point I had sworn off Audi due to the costs and constant trips to the dealership. I had a 2010 S4, my water pump failed, oil consumption problems, error codes with the differential and my sunroof had a leak. It was a real pain in the ass.
Yeah, I leased this one. I can't see myself leasing long term, but I was a little nervous about my old A4's reliability. I'm having one minor annoyance with my current car, but it's not a big deal in my book.
That being said, I have never felt more satisfied getting out of a car than I have with this A4. The old one has a close second.
I really like the new A4, do they have a black optics package yet for it? What issues are you experiencing? The thing that worries me about the new Audi's are all the electronics in there now. The virtual gauges seem like something that will end up being a problem.
Actually yes, I am traumatized to the point I had sworn off Audi due to the costs and constant trips to the dealership. I had a 2010 S4, my water pump failed, oil consumption problems, error codes with the differential and my sunroof had a leak. It was a real pain in the ass.
The water pump is a known issue with the early model B8 S4s (fixed with a recall), haven't heard too much with the 2011s+ models.
How many miles did you end up driving your S4 before you got rid of it?
The water pump is a known issue with the early model B8 S4s (fixed with a recall), haven't heard too much with the 2011s+ models.
How many miles did you end up driving your S4 before you got rid of it?
There were other little electrical problems that drove me insane as well, but yes I learned early on that the Water Pump problem was common. I had about 46K on it before I said enough.
10-30-2013, 03:04 PM
2014
(The Tesla infotainment system in the Model X has some issues.Tesla Motors)
(Ah, for the good old days.Hollis Johnson)
