Chrysler: Development and Technology News
#162
They are probably canning the Magnum to make room on the assembly line for the Challenger.
Pacifica hey nice or not, if it doesn't sell what are they going to do. The new crossover they're talking will probably look more SUV to fit in line with the direction everyone else is going.
Seems like smart moves by Chrysler. As a single guy, I'd take a Challenger over the Magnum any day.
Pacifica hey nice or not, if it doesn't sell what are they going to do. The new crossover they're talking will probably look more SUV to fit in line with the direction everyone else is going.
Seems like smart moves by Chrysler. As a single guy, I'd take a Challenger over the Magnum any day.
#163
Originally Posted by Whiskers
Good thing I never became a mod of the pacifica forum......
I think the mistake with the vehicle was its pricing and refinement. I have the decked out model with Nav, 19in wheels and DVD and the sticker was about $38k. That is pretty high for a domestic wagon when similar alternatives (true minivans) are much cheaper. The engine is also pretty weak and the tranny is not that enthusiastic to shift but to its credit once it gets up to speed it is one smooth sailing machine.
#164
Originally Posted by gsi00154
I am a member of that forum thank you very much. I own an 05 pacifica and it is a good car. It is an excellent road trip car for our family of 4 and when you lay the seats back it can double as an extended cab pickup.
I think the mistake with the vehicle was its pricing and refinement. I have the decked out model with Nav, 19in wheels and DVD and the sticker was about $38k. That is pretty high for a domestic wagon when similar alternatives (true minivans) are much cheaper. The engine is also pretty weak and the tranny is not that enthusiastic to shift but to its credit once it gets up to speed it is one smooth sailing machine.
I think the mistake with the vehicle was its pricing and refinement. I have the decked out model with Nav, 19in wheels and DVD and the sticker was about $38k. That is pretty high for a domestic wagon when similar alternatives (true minivans) are much cheaper. The engine is also pretty weak and the tranny is not that enthusiastic to shift but to its credit once it gets up to speed it is one smooth sailing machine.
#166
Originally Posted by Whiskers
My wife's 04 was maxed out with options too, but there was like 10k cash back...
#167
Originally Posted by gsi00154
Werd. I got about that much too on mine. Wound up financing 30k. Don't ask about the resale value. Mine has 50k miles and is worth squat.
#169
Originally Posted by Whiskers
My wife's 04 was maxed out with options too, but there was like 10k cash back...
mine was almost maxed out. Not the Limited, just a Touring with almost all possible options, but no 19" wheels, no satellite radio, no reverse park assist.
Agree about smooth sailing at high speeds.
#170
Originally Posted by gsi00154
Werd. I got about that much too on mine. Wound up financing 30k. Don't ask about the resale value. Mine has 50k miles and is worth squat.
I HAD to sell mine after a couple of years due to other financial priorities. I just took it to Carmax. Got $17K for it If I remember correctly.
#171
Originally Posted by Ruski
I HAD to sell mine after a couple of years due to other financial priorities. I just took it to Carmax. Got $17K for it If I remember correctly.
I think part of the problem with the supposed depreciation on American cars comes from the fact that they seem to sell them at such a huge discount from MSRP. It seems very difficult and time consuming to get money out of an Acura dealer; however, at a Lincoln dealer the salesman wanted to negotiations at 10k under MSRP.
#172
my g/f's mom has a pacifica i like it. i'm sad to see them kill it.
However, if i had the money i'd go ahead and upgrade to a R class diesel. basically a Pacifica a water downed R class without all the bells and whistles.
However, if i had the money i'd go ahead and upgrade to a R class diesel. basically a Pacifica a water downed R class without all the bells and whistles.
#173
Chrysler To Offer Wireless Internet Access in 2009 Models
Have you ever thought rush hour on the 405 Freeway might be more bearable if you could check your e-mail, shop for a book on Amazon, place some bids on EBay and maybe even, if nobody is looking, download a little porn?
Then perhaps you should be driving a Chrysler.
The nation's third-largest automaker is set to announce Thursday that it's making wireless Internet an option on all its 2009 models. The mobile hotspot, called UConnect Web, would be the first such technology from any automaker.
Struggling Chrysler is hoping that providing motorists access to the information superhighway will set it apart from competitors and help reverse a dismal year; through May, sales are down 19.3% compared with 2007, the worst drop-off in the industry.
FOR THE RECORD:
An article in Wednesday's Section A about Chrysler offering wireless Internet connections in new cars said users of a device by Autonet Mobile get download speeds of 600 to 800 megabits per second. In fact, the speeds are 600 to 800 kilobits per second, which is about 1,000 times slower.
"It's a notion of always wanting to be connected wherever you are," said Scott Slagle, Chrysler's senior manager of global marketing strategy, who has been testing the technology since last week, allowing his daughters to surf the Web from the back seat.
"There's a demand for that."
Coincidentally, Wi-Fi on wheels is being unveiled just days before new hands-free legislation goes into effect July 1 in California and Washington state. Those laws, designed to reduce accidents caused by driver distraction, prohibit talking on a cellular phone without a headset or other hands-free device.
Perhaps not surprisingly, safety advocates were less than overwhelmed by Chrysler's innovation.
"Surfing the Web is something people really don't have any business doing while they drive," said Jonathan Adkins, spokesman for the Governors Highway Safety Assn. "It's definitely a distraction."
His and other safety groups say the only way to drive safely is without using any electronic devices, headset or no.
Chrysler says that when the car is in motion, the service is intended to be used only by passengers. The privately held company acknowledges, however, that there is no way to prevent a driver from steering with one hand and Web surfing with the other.
"We're relying on the responsibility of the consumer to follow appropriate legislation," said Keefe Leung, Chrysler's engineer for the product.
In that case, Californians tempted to Google and drive can breathe a big sigh of relief: The new laws don't proscribe use of computers or the Web, except for drivers under 18 years old. There is a different law on the books preventing the use of television screens or video screens farther forward than the rear of the front seats, but it's unclear whether that measure applies to computers browsing the Internet.
State Sen. Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto), who authored the California laws, is trying to clarify that situation. He's introduced legislation prohibiting drivers from using any "mobile service device" (including computers) or text-messaging while driving.
"It's great to see technology advance," Simitian said. "But this raises a lot of concerns."
In Chrysler's defense, it's not the first company to offer Internet access in cars. Avis Rent A Car introduced Avis Connect in January 2007. Like UConnect Web, Avis Connect (which costs $10.95 a day) operates on the 3G network using a cellular-based signal.
The device used by Avis is also available through its manufacturer, Autonet Mobile, for $595 plus a $39 monthly subscription rate. Users get download speeds of 600 megabits to 800 megabits per second.
Avis spokesman John Barrows said the device, which is portable, is fairly popular but not in as much demand as GPS units.
"We emphasize that this is not for use by the driver while operating the vehicle," Barrows said.
Chrysler will formally roll out the technology Thursday at an event in Detroit spotlighting its 2009 lineup, which will appear in showrooms in September. The automaker did not disclose pricing, but said there would probably be a base charge for the option, plus a monthly or annual fee.
UConnect Web is an extension of the company's UConnect system, which provides Bluetooth connectivity for cellphones and MP3 player integration with the car stereo. Rival Ford provides similar services, but without Web access, in its popular Sync system.
With the added Internet connectivity, drivers and passengers will be able to get such devices as laptop computers and Nintendo Wii consoles online. As to what users can download while in the car, Chrysler's Leung said anything was fair game.
"There are no limitations in content," he said.
Then perhaps you should be driving a Chrysler.
The nation's third-largest automaker is set to announce Thursday that it's making wireless Internet an option on all its 2009 models. The mobile hotspot, called UConnect Web, would be the first such technology from any automaker.
Struggling Chrysler is hoping that providing motorists access to the information superhighway will set it apart from competitors and help reverse a dismal year; through May, sales are down 19.3% compared with 2007, the worst drop-off in the industry.
FOR THE RECORD:
An article in Wednesday's Section A about Chrysler offering wireless Internet connections in new cars said users of a device by Autonet Mobile get download speeds of 600 to 800 megabits per second. In fact, the speeds are 600 to 800 kilobits per second, which is about 1,000 times slower.
"It's a notion of always wanting to be connected wherever you are," said Scott Slagle, Chrysler's senior manager of global marketing strategy, who has been testing the technology since last week, allowing his daughters to surf the Web from the back seat.
"There's a demand for that."
Coincidentally, Wi-Fi on wheels is being unveiled just days before new hands-free legislation goes into effect July 1 in California and Washington state. Those laws, designed to reduce accidents caused by driver distraction, prohibit talking on a cellular phone without a headset or other hands-free device.
Perhaps not surprisingly, safety advocates were less than overwhelmed by Chrysler's innovation.
"Surfing the Web is something people really don't have any business doing while they drive," said Jonathan Adkins, spokesman for the Governors Highway Safety Assn. "It's definitely a distraction."
His and other safety groups say the only way to drive safely is without using any electronic devices, headset or no.
Chrysler says that when the car is in motion, the service is intended to be used only by passengers. The privately held company acknowledges, however, that there is no way to prevent a driver from steering with one hand and Web surfing with the other.
"We're relying on the responsibility of the consumer to follow appropriate legislation," said Keefe Leung, Chrysler's engineer for the product.
In that case, Californians tempted to Google and drive can breathe a big sigh of relief: The new laws don't proscribe use of computers or the Web, except for drivers under 18 years old. There is a different law on the books preventing the use of television screens or video screens farther forward than the rear of the front seats, but it's unclear whether that measure applies to computers browsing the Internet.
State Sen. Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto), who authored the California laws, is trying to clarify that situation. He's introduced legislation prohibiting drivers from using any "mobile service device" (including computers) or text-messaging while driving.
"It's great to see technology advance," Simitian said. "But this raises a lot of concerns."
In Chrysler's defense, it's not the first company to offer Internet access in cars. Avis Rent A Car introduced Avis Connect in January 2007. Like UConnect Web, Avis Connect (which costs $10.95 a day) operates on the 3G network using a cellular-based signal.
The device used by Avis is also available through its manufacturer, Autonet Mobile, for $595 plus a $39 monthly subscription rate. Users get download speeds of 600 megabits to 800 megabits per second.
Avis spokesman John Barrows said the device, which is portable, is fairly popular but not in as much demand as GPS units.
"We emphasize that this is not for use by the driver while operating the vehicle," Barrows said.
Chrysler will formally roll out the technology Thursday at an event in Detroit spotlighting its 2009 lineup, which will appear in showrooms in September. The automaker did not disclose pricing, but said there would probably be a base charge for the option, plus a monthly or annual fee.
UConnect Web is an extension of the company's UConnect system, which provides Bluetooth connectivity for cellphones and MP3 player integration with the car stereo. Rival Ford provides similar services, but without Web access, in its popular Sync system.
With the added Internet connectivity, drivers and passengers will be able to get such devices as laptop computers and Nintendo Wii consoles online. As to what users can download while in the car, Chrysler's Leung said anything was fair game.
"There are no limitations in content," he said.
#175
I would think that this would cause more accidents, esp with teen drivers.... But one thing to note, the only way Chrysler can do this if they are still around by the time 2009 rolls around...
#190
Originally Posted by is300eater
I'm sure a lot of people already use their laptops/3g in their cars,
btw... I think I read somewhere that BMW is already working on something like this, So, Chrysler wasn't the first.
btw... I think I read somewhere that BMW is already working on something like this, So, Chrysler wasn't the first.
#191
Chrysler may have ideas, but its too little and too late:
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/serv.../Business/home
Another plant closing.
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/serv.../Business/home
Another plant closing.
#192
9 Speeds
DETROIT -- ZF Friedrichshafen AG will supply a 9-speed automatic transmission for the Chrysler Group LLC's minivans starting in 2013 — the 1st adoption of a 9-speed gearbox for a mass-market vehicle.
Dr. Michael Paul, a member of ZF's board of management, said the German supplier will produce the transmission at its plant in Greenville, South Carolina.
The announcement offers more evidence that Chrysler wants to leapfrog its mass-market rivals, rather than simply match the industry's adoption of 6-speed automatics.
Last summer, Chrysler said that it would use ZF's 8-speed automatic in its rear-wheel drive cars. The 8-speed is expected to improve fuel economy by 25% over a standard 5-speed automatic.
Paul said the 9-speed would improve fuel economy by double digits. “This will be a major step for front-wheel drive cars in terms of fuel economy,” he said.
However, he added that conventional automatic transmissions may be approaching the upper limits of fuel economy improvements to be achieved by adding more gears.
“To be honest, we don't think there is very much to be gained by adding even more gears.”
To improve fuel economy further, automakers and suppliers might develop other types of transmissions, Dr. Paul said.
#193
“To be honest, we don't think there is very much to be gained by adding even more gears.”
#195
Chryco has been putting money into their vehicles in the right places...every 2011 model...if it isnt a new model, or a total redux, it at least has a totally new interior.
They are focusing. They arent where Ford or GM are, yet. But they are working hard to get there.
#196
Chrysler: S Line news
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...NEWS/110139987
With just four models and an average customer age of 62, Chrysler brand has the Chrysler Group's thinnest lineup, lowest volume and oldest buyers.
But Chrysler has a plan to expand its offerings, boost sales and attract younger customers: a new line of vehicles, dubbed S, that arrives in the spring.
The plan aims to keep traditional customers happy with the beige leather interiors, wood accents and chrome grilles they want, and woo younger customers with different styling in the S vehicles.
"There are two paths: the traditional Chrysler path and the S path," Tim Kuniskis, head of Chrysler brand product marketing, told journalists at the Chrysler 300 media launch event in San Diego. "There's a huge customer base for chrome and wood. There are also people who want something a little edgy."
Edgy means blacked-out grilles, red leather seats with an S logo and carbon fiber in place of chrome and wood.
S doesn't stand for "sport." Chrysler already has its sporty SRT line. "Style" might be a better word for a brand that used the slogan "It's time to arrive in style" in its recent Golden Globe Awards TV spot.
Says Kuniskis: "Think of it as two kids--this one grew up in suburban Detroit and this one grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif. It's a subbrand."
"There will be dealers who won't get S at all," and others who will immediately understand the concept, Kuniskis said. The S line also will open new possibilities for Chrysler owners to customize vehicles with wheels and accessories.
Chrysler will not sell the S vehicles as upscale variants of the 300. Rather, S versions will be sold in all three trim levels of the 300: the entry level 300, the 300 Limited and the loaded 300C.
The S line will go into production this spring, probably starting with an S version of the Chrysler 200. The 300 will get the S treatment later. Chrysler hasn't decided on an S version of the Town & Country minivan.
The real test for the S strategy will be the Chrysler 300 sedan, redesigned and re-engineered for 2011.
With its 2005 introduction, the Chrysler 300 became a darling of the bling crowd. Buyers personalized their cars by adding accessories such as custom grilles and wheels.
But the buzz faded in recent years, along with sales. In 2010, the 300 was outsold by its platform twin, the Dodge Charger, by a ratio of 2-to-1: 75,397 to 37,116.
The ins and outs of S
What's in
-- Carbon fiber
-- Blacked-out grilles
-- Red leather
-- Factory-approved accessories for customizers
What's out
-- Chrome grilles
-- Beige leather
-- Traditional wood accents
Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...#ixzz1CgPjWkGf
But Chrysler has a plan to expand its offerings, boost sales and attract younger customers: a new line of vehicles, dubbed S, that arrives in the spring.
The plan aims to keep traditional customers happy with the beige leather interiors, wood accents and chrome grilles they want, and woo younger customers with different styling in the S vehicles.
"There are two paths: the traditional Chrysler path and the S path," Tim Kuniskis, head of Chrysler brand product marketing, told journalists at the Chrysler 300 media launch event in San Diego. "There's a huge customer base for chrome and wood. There are also people who want something a little edgy."
Edgy means blacked-out grilles, red leather seats with an S logo and carbon fiber in place of chrome and wood.
S doesn't stand for "sport." Chrysler already has its sporty SRT line. "Style" might be a better word for a brand that used the slogan "It's time to arrive in style" in its recent Golden Globe Awards TV spot.
Says Kuniskis: "Think of it as two kids--this one grew up in suburban Detroit and this one grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif. It's a subbrand."
"There will be dealers who won't get S at all," and others who will immediately understand the concept, Kuniskis said. The S line also will open new possibilities for Chrysler owners to customize vehicles with wheels and accessories.
Chrysler will not sell the S vehicles as upscale variants of the 300. Rather, S versions will be sold in all three trim levels of the 300: the entry level 300, the 300 Limited and the loaded 300C.
The S line will go into production this spring, probably starting with an S version of the Chrysler 200. The 300 will get the S treatment later. Chrysler hasn't decided on an S version of the Town & Country minivan.
The real test for the S strategy will be the Chrysler 300 sedan, redesigned and re-engineered for 2011.
With its 2005 introduction, the Chrysler 300 became a darling of the bling crowd. Buyers personalized their cars by adding accessories such as custom grilles and wheels.
But the buzz faded in recent years, along with sales. In 2010, the 300 was outsold by its platform twin, the Dodge Charger, by a ratio of 2-to-1: 75,397 to 37,116.
The ins and outs of S
What's in
-- Carbon fiber
-- Blacked-out grilles
-- Red leather
-- Factory-approved accessories for customizers
What's out
-- Chrome grilles
-- Beige leather
-- Traditional wood accents
Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...#ixzz1CgPjWkGf