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Old 07-08-2004, 07:47 AM
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As much as I like the car ... I'm afraid of it long term. Yeah it's built on a E-class chassis and uses some of that car's parts but I still wonder how good the car really is ...
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I really like the 300c I think it is and all at the same time and i am glad to see it is doing well!
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its not built on an E-class chassis, is it?
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luxury models such as the Acura TL or BMW 545i at the high end.
The TL is "high end" luxo? Also, it's being cited as belonging in the same league as the 545. That is le crazy. I think the TL is plenty luxury, but I don't consider it high end lux by any means.
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I had a Chysler/Jeep general manager as a patient last night. He said they are charging $6k over sticker for the 300C. And people are still buying them.

I like the car, but for $38k I'd drive a used decent car and buy a low mileage Z06 or C5 vert.
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its not built on an E-class chassis, is it?
I think it's built on the E-Class prior to the current one. I'm pretty sure it is.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I think it's built on the E-Class prior to the current one. I'm pretty sure it is.
It is.. The last gen E-class chasis though, which I believe actually may be more sturdy than the current chasis
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ive seen 3 on the road. 2 of them a v6 models. looks nice in black. the grill reminds me of a kia amanti.
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I'm glad, but they better be very careful. One recall has been posted, minor things(battery cables, child seat anchor points and seat belt attachments), but hopefully that will be it.
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I knew this car was going to do well.......it has everything required to appeal to the American consumer. I want one......
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This car is gerat. It's been a long time since Americans have fallen in love with an American car. American as in looks and execution. FOr too long Americans tired to be Japanese or like BMW.

Kudos to Chrysler.
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good job chrysler. 300 is a big hit to all people.
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I read today that a 2 door 300C coupe should be coming out soon. I'll see if I can find a pic on the web. It looked sharp.
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NEW YORK TIMES: BEHIND THE WHEEL
July 2, 2004

2005 Chrysler 300 and 300C: At the Junction of Main Street, Bling-Bling and Bada-Bing

By MICHELLE KREBS


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THE Chrysler 300 would like your attention, please. And attention must be paid, because this car is significant for a variety of reasons.

It is the sort of spacious family sedan that Americans used to love, but that has mostly faded from the streets. It represents a return to rear-wheel drive, a setup that Detroit, spurred by the Japanese, mostly abandoned for automobiles long ago.

And it is proof that there truly have been synergies - the buzzword that became a dirty word as corporate mergers faltered - from Daimler-Benz's 1998 takeover of Chrysler. If these 2005 models are the best Chryslers ever made, which they probably are, it is partly because there is a lot of Mercedes-Benz buried inside.

But the 300's styling is what grabs you, and like it or loathe it, the car sticks to your eyeballs. The look is fresh, yet familiar, like great American cars of the distant past. Giant slabs of sheet metal cover the long hood and high body sides. The car's greenhouse seems low in comparison, with the scrunched-down windows you might expect in a fortress.

The look is vaguely menacing and gangsterish; the 300 belongs in the cast of "The Sopranos," perhaps with a stiff in the trunk and Silvio mumbling at the wheel.

Yet the 300 has an elegant, regal stance. The chief designer, Ralph Gilles, 34, said he kept the word "noble" in mind as he refined the design - meaning noble in the vein of classic Duesenbergs, Rolls-Royces and Chrysler's original 300 of 1955, a powerful coupe with understated styling and a reputation as "the bankers' hot rod."

Consider this comment about the new 300: "It's American. It's bold, and it's an absolute home run." Those are not the words of a Chrysler executive or a company news release, but of a competitor, Kip Wasenko, a General Motors designer. Mr. Wasenko, who has his own solid record as the mastermind of Cadillac's successful new look, lavished praise on the 300 during a recent panel discussion on car design.

With chrome ornamentation everywhere, the 300 flaunts its bling-bling. Its most striking feature is its supersize chrome-plated egg-crate grille. As a 300 drove toward us, my 16-year-old daughter said, "Look at that thing that looks like a grill." That is, I pointed out, the car's grille. "No," she responded, "I mean a barbecue grill."

Inside, the 300 is tailored and elegant. Controls are simple and straightforward. The black-on-white gauges of my 300C test car resembled the faces of expensive watches. The trim looked like tortoise shell instead of the expected wood. My only complaint with the interior: the plastic around the center of the dashboard, painted to match the exterior chrome, looked chintzy.

Naysayers had predicted that Americans wouldn't like such an aggressively styled rear-drive sedan. After seeing a concept prototype a couple of years ago, a Wall Street financial analyst went so far as to describe the 300 and its sibling, the Dodge Magnum, as Chrysler's "big leveraged bet."

But the bet is paying off. Chrysler has sold 36,059 since the car went on sale in April and has enough orders to swallow up all the cars produced at the Brampton, Ontario, plant for the rest of the year.

Further, the 300 is stealing sales from competitors, mostly the hometown rivals. About 40 percent of the trade-ins are Chrysler and Dodge models, according to Power Information Network, an affiliate of J. D. Power & Associates that gathers vehicle purchase information from dealers.

But nearly 20 percent of the trade-ins have been General Motors vehicles; another 14 percent were Fords and Lincolns.

Proving that the car has mainstream appeal, the 300 is hitting its demographic mark, mostly men around 50 years old. That is more than 10 years younger than buyers of other rear-drive American cars with V-8's, like the Mercury Grand Marquis.

Yet the 300C also appeals to the young style-obsessed hip-hop crowd. Snoop Dogg called Chrysler's chief executive, Dieter Zetsche, to ask how he could get one. The car is featured on the latest cover of Dub, a magazine that is highly influential with the customizers who "pimp" their rides with gargantuan tires and costly, flashy wheels.

The 300 comes in four versions with three engines: the base model ($23,595) with a 190-horsepower 2.7-liter V-6; the Touring ($27,395) and Limited ($29,890) with a 250-horsepower 3.5-liter V6; and the 300C ($32,995) with the 340-horsepower Hemi V-8.

The V-6's are paired with a Chrysler four-speed automatic transmission; the Hemi is mated to a modified Mercedes-Benz five-speed automatic, built in Kokomo, Ind. A hotter version is said to be in the works with an even more powerful Hemi.

More than half of the 300's leaving showrooms have the Hemi, surprisingly more than Chrysler expected. It's not hard to see why, as I found when I test-drove the 300C . The engine delivers lightning-quick takeoffs from a dead stop - Car and Driver timed a 0 to 60 m.p.h. run at 5.3 seconds - and autobahn-capable passing power. To improve fuel economy, the Hemi is designed to shut down half of its cylinders under certain conditions, like highway cruising. Try as I might, I could not detect when the cylinders shut down.

Still, the Hemi's mileage rating isn't great, at 17 in town and 25 on the highway, but unlike many competitors Chrysler doesn't require premium fuel. The 2.7 engine is rated at 21/28 and the 3.5 at 19/27.

I spent a week with the Hemi, but a short test drive with the 3.5 engine, a tried-and-true Chrysler V-6, proved that it had plenty of smooth power, too. It's too bad the 3.5 isn't paired with the same silky five-speed.

Still, the mix of 300's being sold is far richer than Chrysler expected, generating a much-needed lift to Chrysler's bottom line.

Styling is only part of the story. From the start, engineers insisted on rear drive, something Chrysler hadn't had in its cars since the 1989 Fifth Avenue - produced when Lee A. Iacocca was chairman.

One of this car's predecessors, the 300M that was offered until this year, had a V-6 only; its front-drive layout couldn't accommodate the powerful V-8 that is considered essential in a flagship luxury sedan.

Although Chrysler has spent two decades persuading Americans of front drive's benefits, its executives say they think the public is ready to shift back, given the popularity of rear-drive trucks.

To address concerns about rear drive in snowy climates, Chrysler will follow Europeans' lead and offer an all-wheel-drive option, starting in September. German automakers have done well by offering all-wheel-drive versions of their sedans, and the trend is reaching Detroit.

Traction and stability control, which provide some added bad-weather prowess, will also be standard or optional on rear-drive 300's.

Under the 300's provocative American skin are some solid German bones. The 300's chassis is loosely derived from the one under the Mercedes E-Class. Chrysler also borrowed that car's steering, supportive seats, electrical components and five-speed automatic transmission.

Although the 300 looks substantial and massive, it is actually a bit shorter than the 300M it replaces. The designers purposely stuck to a length of roughly 5 meters (16.4 feet) so the 300 could avoid big-car taxes overseas. (It will be available in Europe, Australia and China, where a turbodiesel engine will be offered.)

Though shorter over all, the 300's wheelbase is a lengthy 120 inches, about a half-foot longer than that of the Ford Crown Victoria or Mercury Grand Marquis. The combination of short length and long wheelbase provides roomy inside accommodations and a spacious trunk of 16 cubic feet, yet the handling is surprisingly nimble, even in parking lots.

The suspensions are tuned to match each model. The ride of the tested 300C was so quiet and comfortable that I started thinking of the car as a Chrysler Mercedes.

The 300 diverts from the Mercedes with its exceedingly reasonable prices; at $24,000 and up, it is right in the heart of the midsize market. Even a fully loaded 300C would be less than $40,000, a spot where few roomy, rear-drive performance cars can be found.

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300C convertible and coupes are coming fast......As the SRT-8....
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300C convertible and coupes are coming fast......As the SRT-8....
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Chrysler’s folks in Auburn Hills, Michigan, tell us there is little chance a wagon version of the Chrysler 300C will come to the States, but with the runaway popularity of the 300C sedan Stateside, anything is possible.

Our curiosity was further piqued when we spied this 300C Touring parked beside a Dodge Magnum in a Detroit-area driveway. The 300C Touring goes on sale in Europe in October. U.S. sales—who knows?



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FYI, what you see above, WILL be sold to Europe for sure! The question is: what's it doing here?
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eh, im happy with the magnum, whats the scoop on the coupe? that'd be awesome.
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I, unlike most Americans, love wagons but I am not liking this 300c touring wagon...It just looks bad
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I just don't like the idea of they selling identical twins in the same market. I like the 300c Touring, but if the Magnum's here that's good enough. And isn't Dodge getting a sedan version of it's own? Just more blatent badge engineering like the bad old days at GM.
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
eh, im happy with the magnum, whats the scoop on the coupe? that'd be awesome.
There will be a coupe and a cabrio 300 for the US market.



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The coupe and cabrio are so sweet!! Awesome
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Just more blatant badge engineering like the bad old days at GM.
GM would like you to refer to that as "economies of scale"
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I have to say that grill looks like shit in these pics.
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cabri-o-HELLYEAH!
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That coupe looks sweet!
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On the Way - 400HP+ Chrysler 300 SRT-8, Dodge Charger SRT-8 (2)



SRT to Expand


By Kevin Kelly
WardsAuto.com, Jul 14 2004

Plans for the expansion of Chrysler’s LX rear-wheel-drive family of vehicles includes an SRT-8 performance package for the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger, as well as an all-new 6.1L Hemi V-8.

Performance-car fans should get ready for a series of sport-bred vehicles based on the newly introduced Chrysler Group LX rear-wheel-drive platform. The performance derivatives are set to debut in first-quarter 2005.

Sources within the auto maker tell Ward’s Chrysler will introduce a 300C SRT-8 early in 2005, with a Dodge Charger SRT-8 following in September.

Both vehicles will be powered by the all-new 6.1L version of Chrysler’s highly acclaimed Hemi V-8 engine.

Sources claim the new powerplant will produce 420 hp and 390 lb.-ft. (528 Nm) of torque, a significant 24% horsepower boost from the 340 hp rating of the current 5.7L Hemi.

Sources also indicate the 6.1L Hemi will not feature Chrysler’s much-touted multi-displacement cylinder-deactivation system. The higher-output 6.1L Hemi will be reserved only for performance applications, where fuel economy routinely is not a top priority.

“We’ll keep the 5.7L for mass production applications, but the 6.1L will be reserved for limited high-performance vehicle production,” a Chrysler insider says.

The Charger SRT-8 will feature a 6-speed manual transmission as standard equipment, boosting the vehicle’s performance potential.

Pilot production of standard Chargers already has begun in preparation for the return of the Charger moniker to Dodge showrooms shortly before the SRT package launches.

The source also indicates the auto maker is toying with the idea of launching a 2-door version of the Charger, as well as a 4-seat convertible, based loosely off the Chrysler Hemi C concept vehicle that debuted at the 2000 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

“I’ve seen some mock-ups, but I’m not sure if it’s been given the green light,” the source says.

Separately, the auto maker confirms it has begun production of all-wheel-drive variants of the 300 Series and Dodge Magnum passenger cars in Brampton, Ont., Canada. The AWD models will go on sale this fall.

Dodge will debut AWD versions of its Magnum SXT and RT wagon a few months before the system is available on the Chrysler 300 Limited, Touring and 300C in the fourth quarter.

The ’05 Magnum SXT AWD will base at $27,900, and the Hemi-powered RT AWD at $31,370.

Base price of the ’05 Chrysler 300 Touring AWD will be $29,370 with the 300 Touring AWD starting at $31,215. The Hemi-powered 300C AWD will base at $34,195.





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Yeah, it's got a Hemi... and AWD. All-wheel Drive Joins Rear-wheel Drive on 2005 Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum

• New All-wheel-drive Choices Added to Line-up for Outstanding Performance in All Weather Conditions

• All-wheel-drive Vehicles to Go On Sale This Fall Starting at $27,900 (MSRP excluding $625 destination)

One wheel? Two wheels? Three wheels, four? All wheels your preference? Who needs more? Chrysler Group is rounding out its Dodge Magnum and Chrysler 300 family with all-wheel-drive (AWD) versions of the highly popular vehicles.

For those Dodge customers who prefer all-wheel drive, the 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum SXT and AWD Dodge Magnum RT will be introduced this fall. Later in the fourth quarter, Chrysler all-wheel-drive fans will be able to choose from AWD Chrysler 300 Touring and AWD Chrysler 300C models, as well as an AWD package that will be available as an option for the Chrysler 300 Limited.

"The rear-wheel drive Dodge Magnum and Chrysler 300 have proven themselves in the marketplace as popular performers all across the United States, and we look to these new all-wheel-drive choices to continue that momentum," said George Murphy, Senior Vice-President, Global Brand Marketing.

By continuously driving all wheels, the new all-wheel-drive system provides excellent cornering balance and traction under all driving conditions. Combined with standard features such as Electronic Stability Program (ESP), All-speed Traction Control, four-wheel anti-lock brakes and Emergency Brake Assist, performance and stability are outstanding in the new AWD members of the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler 300 lineup.

"While chassis electronics and tire technology improvements help control our Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum rear-wheel-drive models, some customers may still opt for the all-wheel-drive choice," said Murphy. "With this latest option, we are able to offer what the customer wants in each case."

The new all-wheel drive system adds a front differential and a transfer case to the standard rear-wheel-drive configuration. All-wheel drive continuously divides the power between the front and rear axles at a 38-percent to 62-percent ratio.

In addition to the front differential and transfer case, the all-wheel drive system adds a unique short- and long-arm front suspension to accommodate the front drive axle and related components. This unique suspension uses a forged upper control arm and single-piece case-iron lower control arm, efficiently packaged around the front-axle drive system. The steering gear effort and response and the suspension characteristics also are tuned to the handling characteristics of all-wheel-drive vehicles.

2005 AWD Dodge Magnum SXT Model

The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum SXT model is $27,900 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the added front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick®, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine.

2005 AWD Dodge Magnum RT Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum RT model is $31,370 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the addition of the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension. (The five-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and 19-gallon fuel tank already are included as standard equipment on the Dodge Magnum RT.)

2005 AWD Chrysler 300 Touring Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Chrysler 300 Touring model is $29,370 (excluding $625 destination). The added front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank are included with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine on the AWD Chrysler 300 Touring model.

2005 Chrysler 300 Limited AWD Option

The 2005 Chrysler 300 Limited will be offered as an all-wheel-drive vehicle through an option package. In addition to the Limited model's standard equipment, this package will add the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine. The MSRP for 2005 Chrysler 300 Limited vehicles with the AWD option is $31,215 (excluding $625 destination).

2005 AWD Chrysler 300C Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Chrysler 300C model is $34,195 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the addition of the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension and 18-inch wheels. (The five-speed automatic transmission, touring tires, performance disk brakes and 19-gallon fuel tank already are included as standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C.)

The 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum and AWD Chrysler 300 will be built at the Brampton Assembly Plant in Brampton, Ontario.

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WOW... Chrysler is on a roll... it is nice to see a 420 6.1L charger with AWD!
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Originally Posted by charliemike
GM would like you to refer to that as "economies of scale"
I see what your saying, lol... Don't get me wrong. I'm all for "economies of scale"... platform sharing is great. Look what Nissan's done with the FM platoform. GM's new platforms are great because they can be tuned to drive different; eplison, theta, delat, etc. Look at how flexible Kappa is! That's awesome; diffent lengths and widths on the same basic architecture... much better than when all GM did was change the grill and badge on the same car... that was horrible.
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Originally Posted by titan
I see what your saying, lol... Don't get me wrong. I'm all for "economies of scale"... platform sharing is great. Look what Nissan's done with the FM platoform. GM's new platforms are great because they can be tuned to drive different; eplison, theta, delat, etc. Look at how flexible Kappa is! That's awesome; diffent lengths and widths on the same basic architecture... much better than when all GM did was change the grill and badge on the same car... that was horrible.

I totally agree with you ... I was just joking around that at some point in the not too distant past, people at GM thought that was a good idea

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I would this car!!

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Road Test: Full Test


Full Test: 2005 Chrysler 300C
Past and Present Collide


By Edmunds.com Editors
Date posted: 08-26-2004


Have you ever heard a song on the radio and asked yourself, "Is that song old or new?" It's true that much of pop culture has always loved whatever was cool one or two generations ago — the obvious example is intentional remakes of old songs, movies and clothing styles. But in many cases it's hard to tell the new from the old — are those old Levis or new jeans made to look like old Levis? This is the exact feeling we get from the new Chrysler 300. It looks somewhat familiar, perhaps even retro, and yet it's that intangible characteristic that makes it seem so fresh and new.

Those who know their history will remember that even the name of this all-new car is, you guessed it, old. Back in the day, the number 300 in "Chrysler 300" was a reference to the car's horsepower. But it's not just the name that seems familiar. The look, feel and overall behavior of the car also evoke another era while at the same time delivering modern features and quality. Slide behind the leather-trimmed steering wheel and you'll instantly notice that the gauges have a distinctly vintage look. The large round dials feature metallic trim rings, white faces with black numerals and the very font of the numbers communicate an old and classy image. There's also plenty of luxury, but the 300 is what Chrysler calls a premium car. Simply put, that means the 300C is a car that may lack the opulence of a similar-sized Audi or BMW models but offers more luxury than one might associate with other Chrysler products.

The 300, and especially the top-of-the-line 300C, easily outclasses anything else in the Chrysler lineup (drive a Sebring then jump into a 300 and the difference in quality alone will astonish you). The real question is what cars outside of the Chrysler lineup compete with the 300C. If you consider price alone, the car is in odd company at best — consider the V6-powered versions and it gets even more interesting. The traditional competition for a car like the 300C would be cars like the Buick Park Avenue Ultra, Lincoln LS, Pontiac Bonneville GXP and maybe even the Lincoln Town Car. But look closely and the 300C offers a 300-plus-horsepower V8, rear-wheel drive, tons of interior space, cutting-edge exterior styling and a fairly plush interior for about the same price as a loaded VW Passat or Toyota Camry.

Here's the bottom line: no matter how you stack it, the 300C outclasses every other car out there in terms of performance, value, style and the elusive "it" factor. In order to make a fair comparison to the impressive C, you have to consider cars like the BMW 545i, Cadillac STS and the Lexus LS 430 — cars costing as much as $20,000 more. As cheesy as it sounds to suggest the 300C has no equal, it is true in some ways. The previously mentioned vehicles like the Buick Park Avenue and Lincoln LS are quickly dismissed and the others command a price premium that could easily pay for your teenager's first car — and a pretty nice one at that.

So the 300C looks good on paper and as much as we love a great value, the real test is in the driving experience. And here's where that "is it old or new" thing comes in. While thoroughly modern, the 300C has a distinct old-school feel from behind the wheel — and we mean that in a good way. One such throwback is the long hood. It gives the car a real substantive feel. As in older American cars from the '50s, '60s and even the '70s, the driver feels well aware that this is a massive piece of hardware and parking lots should not be taken lightly. Our test car did not include the optional rear parking sensors, but we think they would be money well spent. If you're used to blasting into the parking lot at the local mall around 30 mph and then swinging into a "compact" space with little room to spare, you'll have to rethink your parking philosophy. In addition, the car's short overhangs can make it hard to judge how close you are to another vehicle or, say, a parking garage support post. But as you back out of that space, and swing the front end around, there is this haunting flashback feeling like you're piloting an old Cadillac, or perhaps a '61 Chrysler 300.

On the open road, the car retains the old-world charm, as it is always obvious that there is a lot of car around you. Acceleration is pleasingly of another era as well. Sure, many cars today offer impressive 0-to-60-mph times, but the manner in which you get there isn't always so pleasant. With the 300C, Chrysler has resurrected the quiet confidence of a smooth American V8 that doesn't need to shout, "Here I am." There's no turbo jolt or high-revving variable valve timing to wring out, just a subtle rumble and an urgent thrust. The modern Hemi engine found in this 300C (as well as the Dodge Magnum) uses a cylinder deactivation system to selectively "turn off" certain cylinders when the car is cruising in an effort to improve fuel economy. The operation was invisible to us and we'd be hard-pressed to tell you when or if the system kicked in.

That Hemi V8 is standard on the C. It displaces 5.7 liters and makes 340 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque. The 300C isn't so quick as to elicit a jaw-dropping "wow," but an aggressive squeeze of the accelerator brought out one of those unintentional smiles from several of our editors. The five-speed automatic transmission shifts smoothly and without drama. Every now and then, we'd swear a downshift should have come sooner but the transmission overall is very good and almost invisible. The shift-it-yourself feature is nice, but the car just doesn't lend itself to manual control the way an Audi or BMW might.

Thankfully, the yesteryear references melt away as soon as you pitch the C into a corner. There is a fair amount of body roll when cornering at speed, but it's controlled well enough that we would feel just fine labeling the C as sporty. Unlike American iron of decades past, you won't have to scrape asphalt off the door handles after aggressive cornering. When cruising down the turnpike, the ride is smooth and, as expected, refined. On harder surfaces or freeways with expansion joints, the ride can get a little busy, but we're sure it's that underlying stiffness that gives the car decent handling. It's no Corvette, but the big car does handle well with an almost European flavor — just don't expect BMW sharpness.

Could this be thanks to the German design of its underpinnings? Perhaps, but no matter the origin, we can't argue with the results. The car delivers decent handling, a supple ride and a quiet interior at speed. Brakes are firm and offer excellent feedback, and when the ABS is engaged, it makes little noise. If we have a complaint about the overall driving dynamics of the car, it's that we'd hope for a little more exhaust sound. At idle, there is a bit of V8 burble out back. But once you get into the car, the doors close with a solid "thunk" and very little engine noise (or any kind of noise) makes its way into the cabin. Sure, this is intentional on Chrysler's part so as to maintain the car's premium status, but a little more of a rumble would really reinforce the 300C's authoritative Hemi engine.

As we noted earlier, the interior is a wonderful blending of old and new with retro-looking instruments and completely modern digital displays for trip, climate and audio information. When simply looked upon as a modern car, the 300C offers all the comfort, style and features you'd expect from a near-luxury car. In fact, the 300 probably offers more features than you would expect for the price. The leather is soft, an area Chrysler has overlooked in the past, and the materials have both a high-quality look and feel. We'd love it if the center stack was trimmed with real aluminum or other metal, but we're the first to admit that the metallic-looking plastic is the most convincing substitute we've seen in any car.

The climate control knobs are simple and straightforward with a large round dial for fan speed and another for directing the air. Both temperature control knobs (for driver and passenger) are situated in the same area and are easy to use. The round knobs are trimmed with chrome rings — an upscale touch that contributes to the vintage flair of the car. The navigation system is integrated into the stereo and while it is easy to use, the screen could be bigger. Another slight complaint is that some of the stereo features are handled through the LCD screen used by the navigation system, and the controls can be unintuitive.

Editors also leveled a small complaint against the rear-seat accommodations. We found the front and rear seats to be very comfortable, with the rear seats especially garnering praise for the ample legroom. However, given the car's overall level of luxury, we found the rear seat to be lacking in any features that might extend the luxurious setting beyond the front seats. The Chrysler Pacifica was specifically designed to include the rear-seat passengers in the car's luxury trappings with a rear console, fan speed adjuster and rear-seat warmers controlled via rear mounted switches. By comparison, the rear seat of the 300C is very plain, offering no more than a fold-down armrest with a cupholder.

Admittedly, there is little to dislike about this car. Some may find the styling odd or tacky, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And we feel no hesitation in calling this car beautiful inside and out. The arched wheel wells combined with 18-inch chrome wheels give the car a low slung stance that looks both menacing and stylish. The boxy but rounded exterior with very short front and rear overhangs had some on staff recalling old Bentleys, or other British makes like Humber. The body has an almost custom look to it as it appears the top has been chopped and the bumpers removed. To enhance the car's custom look, we think the narrow window openings should get some dark tint, then we would add larger wheels and tires that would effectively tuck the wheels up closer to the car.

The 300C is a great-looking car with the performance and style to back up its looks. Really, the Chrysler 300C does what many product designers and marketers alike wish they could do with regularity — offer a product that effectively captures the nostalgia, heritage and hipness of the past while seamlessly integrating the convenience, value, coolness and safety the modern world has to offer. Whether it's fashion, TV commercials or music, even pioneers will be found rooting around in the past for inspiration. As the Chrysler 300C confirms, it's the addition of a little history that makes the new version that much better. This new Chrysler succeeds on so many levels that it is hard to pinpoint exactly where it all comes together, but it has something to do with the big sedan's capacity to blend past and present, performance and luxury and value and style into one enticing package. The result is a much needed reminder that America can still build some really great automobiles.
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Chrysler says it won't build a 300 convertible; ASC concept likely to debut at Detoit show - - By MARY CONNELLY | Automotive News - - Source: Autoweek

DETROIT -- Forget about the Chrysler group building a Chrysler 300 convertible, says Trevor Creed, the company's senior vice president of design.

But do look for a 300 convertible built by American Specialty Cars of Southgate, Mich., at the Detroit auto show in January, Creed says.

A 300 convertible is not in the Chrysler group's product plan because of the engineering changes required to create a four-door convertible, Creed says.

"Four doors and a convertible top don't lead to good, rigid bodies," Creed says.

But Chrysler group engineers are involved with American Specialty Cars as it creates the 300 convertible planned for the auto show, Creed says.

Tim Yost, American Specialty Cars director of marketing and communications, declined comment on whether the company would show a 300 convertible in Detroit. He also declined comment on whether the company will produce a convertible 300 for Chrysler group showrooms.

"ASC is going to be showing vehicles in its own exhibit at the auto show," Yost says. "We have not announced what those vehicles will be."

The Chrysler group product strategy calls for producing vehicle variants to build volume and buzz. For example, next spring the Chrysler group will offer the 300 SRT-8 equipped with a 6.1-liter Hemi V-8 generating 425 hp.
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A 300 convertible is not in the Chrysler group's product plan because of the engineering changes required to create a four-door convertible, Creed says.
If I'm reading this right, that would also mean no coupe anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by EdgarFanCLS
If I'm reading this right, that would also mean no coupe anytime soon.
Not really. The coups is a totally different story engineering-wise. The challenge the article says, exists with a four-door cabrio.

I mean, how many four door cabrio cars are there currently? I cant think of one.


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