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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Looks like an improvement. It'll probably still feel cheap, but that's why it's an economy car.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Looks like an improvement. It'll probably still feel cheap, but that's why it's an economy car.
It really depends on how cheap it is ... Jesal's Mazda 3i looks a feels a lot nicer than the $17k he paid for it.

It's not going to be confused with a BMW or Audi but it's light-years better than the current Cobalt/HHR/Caliber class cars.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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General Motors has officially announced that it will produce the upcoming Cobalt replacement, the Chevrolet Cruze, at its Lordstown, Ohio facility. The Cruze will make its worldwide debut at this October’s Paris Motor Show.

The car will hit the European market in the spring of 2009, with U.S. production at the Lordstown plant — where the Cobalt is currently made — beginning in June 2010. Although the Cruze will replace the Cobalt, GM will produce both vehicles for a short time together.

GM has yet to release any specs on the all-new Cruze, but it is expected that the new compact will use GM’s new 1.4L turbocharged engine. Fuel mileage should at least equal that of the current Cobalt, with figures in the 40 mpg range likely.

Based on what was once called the Delta 2 platform, the all-new Cobalt will ride on GM’s Global Compact Vehicle Architecture. The primary engineering and development will come from GMDAT — General Motor’s Korean partner (although there has been strong input from the North American and European planning groups).

Codenamed GMX071, the Cobalt shares many components as well as styling features with the next Daewoo Lacetti, including a large portion of sheetmetal.

Obviously Chevrolet’s Cobalt and the Daewoo Lacetti will not be completely identical, as each will have different styling cues on the front and rear clips, headlamps and taillights, although earlier prototypes do appear to have a grille that strongly resembles the new Malibu and upcoming Traverse.

Chevrolet will also offer another version for markets outside of the United States, known as the Optra. In addition to these, there will likely be up to 15 different cars for GM’s global markets based on this new “Global Delta” architecture.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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it's a lacetti, looks like Top Gear NA will have a comparable star in reasonably priced car.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Wow, that's a much better looking car than the Cobalt could ever be. The interior looks good. It has some design element from the new Honda Accord, but is quite pulled together. The taillight design reminds of some other car's though...
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
it's a lacetti, looks like Top Gear NA will have a comparable star in reasonably priced car.
Oh good god man ... Rooting for GM is like being a battered spouse ... Lots of promises to lure you back in and then it's back to getting smacked around.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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that interior is pretty damn nice...wow
and any word on a coupe???
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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wow, that is a tight ass interior for a cobalt.. I wonder how that will translate into a G5.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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That pic is obviously of a European version - maybe the Optra (US license plate wouldn't fit on the trunk lid) which always gets nicer interiors. I wouldn't get my hopes up that the Cruze would be anything other than some warmed over cheap GM offering.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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is this chevy daewoo design?
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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It looks really nice IMO.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
It really depends on how cheap it is ... Jesal's Mazda 3i looks a feels a lot nicer than the $17k he paid for it.

It's not going to be confused with a BMW or Audi but it's light-years better than the current Cobalt/HHR/Caliber class cars.
I've been in a Mazda 3s, and while it had leather (I don't really like leather, but the leather itself was pretty nice) the plastics were pretty cheap in it too.

I've been in the current Cobalt, rental..... it looked and just invoked a sense of cheapness. I didn't even have to touch anything, I just sat down and was like, wow. Who in their right mind would buy this over a Civic, Corolla, Sentra even, etc. This looks like it'll be a major improvement.

The Cobalt SS (turbo) ran an 8:22 on the Ring which is nothing compared to the GT-R or ZR1 of course but impressive for a car of its class.... in fact I think its the best of its class. But considering how boring looking and cheap feeling it is I wouldn't even consider it, but if all goes well, it deserves a maybe.

Originally Posted by biker
That pic is obviously of a European version - maybe the Optra (US license plate wouldn't fit on the trunk lid) which always gets nicer interiors. I wouldn't get my hopes up that the Cruze would be anything other than some warmed over cheap GM offering.
I hope not. This could hopefully be a sign of promising things to come. It is LHD after all
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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It looks good, both inside and out. Nicer looking than the Corolla, Sentra, and Civic, IMO.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Interior pic. Looks great, IMO.

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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^^ Very Nice interior!!! For any GM product...let alone entry level.

GM with another winner.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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^ that's the Daewoo, and obviously an upscale version. The Chevy version may be just alittle more, ahem, downmarket...
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Yup, that's Daewoo on the steering wheel. Doubt it'll have the leather interior either.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Yup, that's Daewoo on the steering wheel. Doubt it'll have the leather interior either.
Why not..Cobalt SS has leather
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Why not..Cobalt SS has leather
Really? Never knew that.... so there may be hope after all?

I'll just say it now, as much of a GM fanboy as I appear to be, I would NEVER choose a GM econo-compact over its Honda/Nissan competitors until now.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Really? Never knew that.... so there may be hope after all?

I'll just say it now, as much of a GM fanboy as I appear to be, I would NEVER choose a GM econo-compact over its Honda/Nissan competitors until now.
I thought it was a leather 2-tone interior...it might be faux-suede ala Civic Si....but the wheel and shifter are leather IIRC
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Really? Never knew that.... so there may be hope after all?

I'll just say it now, as much of a GM fanboy as I appear to be, I would NEVER choose a GM econo-compact over its Honda/Nissan competitors until now.
Same here.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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that interior is hot shit. hopefully the only thing they change in there is that daewoo badge
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Wow! GM you have come a long way.

Another well executed interior......and it's on your entry model. Nice work
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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That is a much better interior than anything in that class from GM ... EVER.

HOWEVER, I want to point something out that GM has been doing lately that is completely perplexing and somewhat infuriating.

Look at where the Lock/Unlock buttons are for the doors.

Can someone explain to me how that could be construed as a good idea?
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Welcome last car I had the door locks were on the center console...never bothered me.

Then again I never used them. Doors autolocked at 10 mph....unlocked when engine is turned off.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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OMG they finally get it! GM finally gets it!
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Damn. This interior is Fantastic. The best looking in class, for sure. I'd buy it above all others in the class, including a Euro Focus.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
That is a much better interior than anything in that class from GM ... EVER.

HOWEVER, I want to point something out that GM has been doing lately that is completely perplexing and somewhat infuriating.

Look at where the Lock/Unlock buttons are for the doors.

Can someone explain to me how that could be construed as a good idea?
Been that way on of cars. I dont mind it...center console is also where the window controls SHOULD reside.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Yes! Thank you GM!
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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btw seat warmers on a cavalier? Never thought I'd see the day


Another car I'll be considering (SS) in 2011 for sure.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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nice but why is there cloth on the dashboard??? it would be perfect if they put some aluminum trim to replace the colorful cloth shit.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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^ I like the cloth, it's different, but it works. Not sure about long term durability, but for looks it works.

I am soooo tired of the fake aluminum on all cars these days. I don't even want real aluminum. This is breath of fresh air.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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damn that is nice
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog
last car I had the door locks were on the center console...never bothered me.

Then again I never used them. Doors autolocked at 10 mph....unlocked when engine is turned off.
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Been that way on lots of cars. I dont mind it...center console is also where the window controls SHOULD reside.
I guess I'm taking crazy pills because I think that location for lock/unlock is ridiculous. A also think the window controls should be on the doors.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I guess I'm taking crazy pills because I think that location for lock/unlock is ridiculous. A also think the window controls should be on the doors.
You're not. I think the lock/unlock should be on the door as well.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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holy crap look at that interior! excellent! bet its gonna be made out of crap though...
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wow thats a chevy. they finally figured out how to build a complete car. I knew there interiors were coming along with the interior the put in the tahoe/suburban being really nice but that looks amazing. just a matter of how the materials feel and look in person. hopefully wont be all plastic.

score 1 for chevy over acura.

damn even chevy gets it but acura is still lost.
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