Chevrolet: Camaro News
05-14-2009, 09:35 PM
#761
These companies did not survive because they couldn't sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, they couldn't compete against Korean/Japanese cars. If they sold so many cars, and were providing net profit to the company, GM would never cut off Pontiac, and Chrysler would not file Chapter 7...
They couldn't sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, because they have to pay out billions in legacy costs to retired workers and to cover the salaries of current employees. Korean/Japanese automakers don't have that problem.
Sure they designed some worthless models along the way, but what automaker hasn't? And, that is hardly the reason they are going under.
05-14-2009, 11:34 PM
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If it wasnt for not being able to sell cars, then what is it?
For example, Chrysler's management wrong decision was the main reason they failed. They produced cars with lack of public appeal, combined with lack of quality of materials, low-reliability, and dysfunctional relationships between headquarters and local dealerships.
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...055_922626.htm
For Pontiac, Do I need to mention to you guys, the AZTEC? Probably the worst automobile production design ever! I dont know what American designers were thinking.
Once again, several reason as to why Pontiac failed was, use of cheap materials, poor reliability, and FUGLY designs.
http://www.carthrottle.com/derailed-...ontiac-failed/
These companies did not survive because they coudnt sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, they coudn't compete against Korean/Japanese cars. If they sold so many cars, and were providing net profit to the company, GM would never cut off Pontiac, and Chrysler would not file Chapter 7...
For example, Chrysler's management wrong decision was the main reason they failed. They produced cars with lack of public appeal, combined with lack of quality of materials, low-reliability, and dysfunctional relationships between headquarters and local dealerships.
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...055_922626.htm
For Pontiac, Do I need to mention to you guys, the AZTEC? Probably the worst automobile production design ever! I dont know what American designers were thinking.
Once again, several reason as to why Pontiac failed was, use of cheap materials, poor reliability, and FUGLY designs.
http://www.carthrottle.com/derailed-...ontiac-failed/
These companies did not survive because they coudnt sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, they coudn't compete against Korean/Japanese cars. If they sold so many cars, and were providing net profit to the company, GM would never cut off Pontiac, and Chrysler would not file Chapter 7...
05-15-2009, 12:12 AM
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You have got to be one of the dumbest, most ignorant retards on this board. I REALLY feel sorry for any poor schlub that comes under your dumbass for an audit. I hope they are smart enough to double check and catch all the mistakes you probably make towards their finances.
LOL, what an uneducated 30 years old loser, act your age.
If you want to say something, come back with statements that has some value and weight to it, rather than meaningless insults. This is why I dont give you any respect, I have yet to see any post from you that sounded like from educated 30 years old man. It always has been dumb rants or complains...lol
Why don't you explain to me the reason of failure of Pontiac and Chrysler? And the struggles of GM?
Come on 30 years old man, why dont you act your age for once and give me your perspective on this issue with supporting facts..
05-15-2009, 12:37 AM
#764
If it wasnt for not being able to sell cars, then what is it?
For example, Chrysler's management wrong decision was the main reason they failed. They produced cars with lack of public appeal, combined with lack of quality of materials, low-reliability, and dysfunctional relationships between headquarters and local dealerships.
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...055_922626.htm
For Pontiac, Do I need to mention to you guys, the AZTEC? Probably the worst automobile production design ever! I dont know what American designers were thinking.
Once again, several reason as to why Pontiac failed was, use of cheap materials, poor reliability, and FUGLY designs.
http://www.carthrottle.com/derailed-...ontiac-failed/
These companies did not survive because they coudnt sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, they coudn't compete against Korean/Japanese cars. If they sold so many cars, and were providing net profit to the company, GM would never cut off Pontiac, and Chrysler would not file Chapter 7...
For example, Chrysler's management wrong decision was the main reason they failed. They produced cars with lack of public appeal, combined with lack of quality of materials, low-reliability, and dysfunctional relationships between headquarters and local dealerships.
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...055_922626.htm
For Pontiac, Do I need to mention to you guys, the AZTEC? Probably the worst automobile production design ever! I dont know what American designers were thinking.
Once again, several reason as to why Pontiac failed was, use of cheap materials, poor reliability, and FUGLY designs.
http://www.carthrottle.com/derailed-...ontiac-failed/
These companies did not survive because they coudnt sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, they coudn't compete against Korean/Japanese cars. If they sold so many cars, and were providing net profit to the company, GM would never cut off Pontiac, and Chrysler would not file Chapter 7...
Your only purpose is to bash any car that possibly competes with any car in the Hyundai lineup. This is why you're bashing the Camaro. I bet if this were 20 years ago you'd be arguing how the Excel is such a better car than a Yugo.
Sadly you'll never realize that you only make Hyundai look bad. Imagine if Hitler were still alive and he was preaching about how great BMWs were... people would be scared to like them.Ever heard of chaebol? Only recently have the domestic companies asked for loans.... meanwhile Hyundai gets money pumped into their bank accounts. Like everyone is saying.... if you don't want your tax money going to domestic companies, MOVE TO KOREA... or go away at the very least.
05-15-2009, 01:14 AM
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Back on topic, the new Camaro is simply astonishing. Period. I would buy one tomorrow if I had the means (and if it came with a nav option). C'mon GM, WTF???
05-15-2009, 03:15 AM
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LOL, what an uneducated 30 years old loser, act your age.
If you want to say something, come back with statements that has some value and weight to it, rather than meaningless insults. This is why I dont give you any respect, I have yet to see any post from you that sounded like from educated 30 years old man. It always has been dumb rants or complains...lol
Why don't you explain to me the reason of failure of Pontiac and Chrysler? And the struggles of GM?
Come on 30 years old man, why dont you act your age for once and give me your perspective on this issue with supporting facts..
If you want to say something, come back with statements that has some value and weight to it, rather than meaningless insults. This is why I dont give you any respect, I have yet to see any post from you that sounded like from educated 30 years old man. It always has been dumb rants or complains...lol
Why don't you explain to me the reason of failure of Pontiac and Chrysler? And the struggles of GM?
Come on 30 years old man, why dont you act your age for once and give me your perspective on this issue with supporting facts..
And of course that doesn't include many of the other errors in your statement.
PS: Pontiac is/was part of GM genius.
05-15-2009, 03:16 AM
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no comment.
05-15-2009, 06:37 AM
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They couldn't sell enough cars for net revenue to cover costs, because they have to pay out billions in legacy costs to retired workers and to cover the salaries of current employees. Korean/Japanese automakers don't have that problem.
Sure they designed some worthless models along the way, but what automaker hasn't? And, that is hardly the reason they are going under.
Sure they designed some worthless models along the way, but what automaker hasn't? And, that is hardly the reason they are going under.
In 2006, GM paid $1500 per car in medical and insurance for it's active and retired workforce. Toyota? $186. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a problem. Iacocca saw this in the early 90s.
If GM and Chrysler are to survive, they've got to be able to pull the plug somehow.
05-19-2009, 11:31 AM
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So.. yesterday after work, I went to Glendale Chevy to check out the new Camaro in person for the first time.
This car... is the best. Enough said.
Camaro > Challenger > Mustang
This car... is the best. Enough said.
Camaro > Challenger > Mustang
05-19-2009, 11:35 AM
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Oh yeah, according to the manager, on June 2nd at the Glendale Chevy, the head designer who designed this beautiful machine will be there for some type of promotional event.
Also, throughout the last week of this month, the actual Bumblebee Camaro will be stationed at the Glendale Chevy for public.
Also, throughout the last week of this month, the actual Bumblebee Camaro will be stationed at the Glendale Chevy for public.
05-19-2009, 12:04 PM
#773
Senior Moderator
Aight folks...I love the debate and discussion, but...KEEP IT CIVIL, PLEASE.
05-19-2009, 12:36 PM
#775
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05-19-2009, 02:47 PM
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take some pictures if you get a chance...
05-19-2009, 02:56 PM
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05-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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05-21-2009, 11:29 AM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Chevrolet readying limited edition Bumblebee Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro may have been the star of the first Transformers movie, but the reinvented pony car was still two-years away from production when the movie hit the big screen. Luckily for Chevrolet, the follow-up to the first movie – “Revenge of the Fallen” – took two years to make, meaning the car will actually be in dealerships at the same time it’s on the silver screen this go around. To commemorate that almost simultaneous launch, Chevrolet is reportedly readying a version of the Bumblebee movie car for the streets.
According to Camaro5, Chevrolet has given the green light to a limited edition Bumblebee Camaro. Staying true to the movie car, the limited edition Camaro will feature a Rally Yellow paint job complete with black stripes. Other unique touches will include Transformer badging on the wheel center caps and sill plates, as well as an embroidered center console lid.
The Bumblebee package will be available on LT and SS models.
Chevrolet dealers will begin taking orders for the limited edition model on June 1st, with production set to kick off on June 24th – the same day the film hits theaters nationwide. No word on a production run or pricing, but we expect to hear more on the subject in the coming days.
According to Camaro5, Chevrolet has given the green light to a limited edition Bumblebee Camaro. Staying true to the movie car, the limited edition Camaro will feature a Rally Yellow paint job complete with black stripes. Other unique touches will include Transformer badging on the wheel center caps and sill plates, as well as an embroidered center console lid.
The Bumblebee package will be available on LT and SS models.
Chevrolet dealers will begin taking orders for the limited edition model on June 1st, with production set to kick off on June 24th – the same day the film hits theaters nationwide. No word on a production run or pricing, but we expect to hear more on the subject in the coming days.
05-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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Thats actually pretty cool.
05-21-2009, 07:29 PM
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damn GM. I love you.
05-22-2009, 07:17 AM
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Team Owner
What are sill plates? Do they mean like side sills like where it says Acura on the floor where youo pend the door? I was hoping for an Autobot emblem on the back. Hopefully they don't put "Bumblebee" on the exterior. I think the paint job and center caps speak for themselves.
06-09-2009, 01:18 PM
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We stopped at a Chevy dealer on the way back from lunch today, and I have to admit, in person, the new Camaro looks pretty good. I can honestly say the pictures don't do it justice. We didn't sit inside of it (and wisely ducked out before having to deal with sales people 
), but the interior looked decent...not as plasticky as the pictures make it look. Yes, there's plastic, but it doesn't look too terribly bad; certainly no worse than the Mustang or Challenger.
), but the interior looked decent...not as plasticky as the pictures make it look. Yes, there's plastic, but it doesn't look too terribly bad; certainly no worse than the Mustang or Challenger.
06-09-2009, 01:35 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
We stopped at a Chevy dealer on the way back from lunch today, and I have to admit, in person, the new Camaro looks pretty good. I can honestly say the pictures don't do it justice. We didn't sit inside of it (and wisely ducked out before having to deal with sales people ), but the interior looked decent...not as plasticky as the pictures make it look. Yes, there's plastic, but it doesn't look too terribly bad; certainly no worse than the Mustang or Challenger.
), but the interior looked decent...not as plasticky as the pictures make it look. Yes, there's plastic, but it doesn't look too terribly bad; certainly no worse than the Mustang or Challenger.
06-09-2009, 03:12 PM
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06-09-2009, 03:49 PM
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06-11-2009, 10:23 AM
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The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Don't think that's it.
Look at the mirrors...those are the concept Camaro mirrors....no way those are hitting the streets.
Look at the mirrors...those are the concept Camaro mirrors....no way those are hitting the streets.
06-11-2009, 11:10 AM
#798
The sizzle in the Steak
That's the car...not the production BB version.
