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That's a sick photo. Wish Caterham F1 would pick it up. Marussia has its first point already! Best of luck to Kamui.
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Last month the official news came out that the Caterham brand of anachronistic sports cars had been sold to Japan-based VT Holdings. The legendary British brand is currently seeking possible avenues to electrify the flyweight sports roadster, though VT Holdings has promised it would never dilute the company’s ethos for the sake of zero emissions driving.

The goal here isn’t to build an electric sports car. The goal is to build a Caterham which happens to be electric. Autocar magazine discussed the possibility of an electric offering with Caterham boss Graham Macdonald, and he confirmed that the company wants to build an EV that maintains the Caterham soul, ride, handling, and feel. While electric cars typically come with the trade off of adding lots of weight in batteries, the weight can be placed quite low in the chassis, and centralized between the axles to help it maintain a nice low center of gravity.

The electric Seven, which has not yet been given a name, is set to be an extremely back-to-basics electric. To save weight and complexity, it’s possible the car won’t even have modern amenities like regenerative braking or power anything. Of course, Caterhams rarely have anything that would stoop to being called an amenity anyway, so that’s pretty standard. The priority of the Caterham team is to offset the weight of the bulky electric powertrain, so you can expect things like lightweight wheels and bodywork to be pretty normal.

While I’m sure range would be a bit short, it’s not impossible to power something fast and fun with a relatively powerful electric motor and a small battery pack. Look to electric motorcycles like the LiveWire (now just LiveWire and not Harley-Davidson) or any of Zero’s products, for inspiration. Or, perhaps, something like Vanderhall’s Edison electric three-wheeler.
“It’s very much like a go-kart. It’s two pedals, you’ve got rapid acceleration, and it’s a different product to drive. No less exciting, but exciting in a different way,” VT Chief Executive Kazuho Takahashi said after running in an early electric Seven prototype. He later claimed it would run similar 0-60 times as a Caterham 620R, so more or less 2.8 seconds.

“My ambition is to keep combustion engines going as long as we possibly can, as long as we can find an engine that fits our product, but that’s becoming harder now. Everybody is going smaller and fitting turbochargers, and that’s not what he want,” he explained.
Takahashi-san claims the electric Caterham, which sources its motor and battery array from another as-yet-undisclosed manufacturer, will be on sale before 2026. There’s obviously no plan to phase out gasoline-powered cars under the Caterham name, but many European nations are making that decision for the small company. If it wants to sell new cars in places with zero emissions mandates, it needs to adapt, and quickly. The UK, Japan, and dozens of other countries, states, cities, and municipalities have announced intentions to phase out gasoline power. For a company still selling cars rooted in the 1950s, this is a surprisingly forward-thinking move.
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What’s this then?

The lightest Caterham ever. Which is quite the achievement given these titchy two-seat sports cars have never been ripe for fat shaming. Even in 1957 (when they were first conceived) they were positively featherweight. But this, the new Seven 170, is edging on anorexic.

How light is it?

A little over 440kg. Which is about two times as heavy as the heart of a Blue Whale, but less than half the weight of an Alpine A110 – a car that’s held in extremely high regard in automotive Weightwatchers groups. Even if you don’t know your kilograms from your kilowatts, let it be known that the 170 is ridiculously light. Especially as gravity on planet Car has changed recently.

For years now the scales have been going only one way, cars getting significantly heavier as consumers and legislators demand more luxury, tech and safety equipment. Largely to the detriment of their dynamics too – cough – BMW G80 M3. But this Caterham swims against the current.

Let me guess, it’s light because they’ve stripped it out and made it out of exotic materials.

Wrong. This doesn’t follow the philosophy of modern supercar lightweighting. It’s light because it’s small. Only being 1470mm wide, it’s 105mm narrower than anything else within the current range; making it not only the lightest Caterham to date, but also the smallest.

It’s the successor to the simple Caterham 160 from a few years ago and follows the same principles and Japanese Kei car footprint. Under the aluminium sardine tin bonnet is Suzuki’s K-car 660cc, three-cylinder unit, boosted by a tiny turbo. In a world of 600bhp super saloons and 2,000bhp EV rocket sleds, the 170’s power and torque figures look like typos: 84bhp and 85lb ft, respectively. Actually, most of the spec sheet reads like a typo. Or something from the early 60s.

What’s on the 1960s shopping list, then?

There’s a five-speed gearbox, live rear axle, and 14-inch wheels wrapped in rubber as wide as a child’s forearm. The minuscule Avon ZTZ tyres are 155 section at the front, a thumping 165 at the rear – so Barratt Liquorice Wheels have a bigger contact patch. You’ll also find drum brakes back there. And zero driver assistance. None. Zip. Nada.

Looks a bit racier than the bare-bones, steel-wheeled 160.

Well spotted. That’s because like every Caterham on sale now the 170 is available in two flavours: ‘S’ and ‘R’. The standard £22,990 'S' road-trim has an open diff and a gentler approach to life with luxuries like a full windscreen, weather gear (doors and a roof) and squidgy leather seats.

For £1,000 more, you can upgrade to the track-focused 'R' pack. That has an uprated sport suspension pack, composite race seats, a four-point race harness, limited-slip differential, Momo steering wheel, carbon-fibre dashboard and four paint options.

The only way Caterham has got with the times is with the options list, as it’s now possible to add thousands of pounds to your base price with endless additions and paint options. For reference, the car you see in the pictures has over £7k of options on it, including £1,000 carbon side and rear panels, £800 LED lights, £350 carbon aero screen, £1,000 gold paint and a £395 carbon swoosh to name a few. That makes it a £31k car with less than 90bhp.

Doesn’t sound like much bang for your buck.

A powerhouse this is most definitely not. But it’s the antidote to an over-complex, overtly digital, over-tyred generation of cars that have partially divorced themselves from proper driving through monstrous power figures and a concern for pub ammo stats. Driving the 170 reminds you that driving isn’t an act of plumbing in a destination in a sat nav and letting the algorithms get you there. It involves management of every aspect of the car: steering, braking, acceleration, gearing, balance and ultimately your own confidence.

But I don’t like analogue cars.

Then this isn’t for you. And you should go place yourself on the Step of Shame. But if you do like being in control of a car, the 170R couldn’t give you a purer experience. It’s the bottom rung of the accessible performance ladder, so regardless of your driving ability, it’s very hard not to have fun in this thing. In fact, it may be impossible.

Is it fun to drive then?

Errr, duh. With wiry wishbones, open wheels and a microscopic body, you can place it on the road/track with millimetric accuracy. And being so narrow, you have more tarmac to play with – giving you more lines and options. And that gear stick? You’ll be using that a lot as the short gearing and lack of oomph means you’ll be using all the gears, all the time. Which is fun. Because changing gear is fun, kids.

But if you want that Rimac Nevera endless torque gut punch that leaves your lungs hanging out behind you, I’m afraid to say you’re not going to get it. The 170R sees off the 0-60mph sprint in 6.9 seconds and is only just capable of hitting three figures, topping out at 105mph. But it’s a slow-speed set of stabilisers to learn about car control.

Depending on your experience, ability and confidence, you can encounter and manage understeer, a four-wheel drift, oversteer, a spin and more understeer in the same corner. Especially as the pedal box is so closely aligned it’s like it’s been and had Invisalign, so it’s actually possible to hit all three pedals at once.

That doesn’t matter, though. As being so light and slow means there’s a benefit when/if it does go wrong – as there’s very little inertia to gather up. You merely pirouette or come to a hilarious stop with a smile on your face rather than burying yourself in another postcode’s hedgerow. Which you’re thankful for. As the only safety equipment you have is a rollover hoop and seatbelt.

Aren’t you a bit exposed though?

That’s half the charm. And makes you feel like you’re going a lot faster than you are. But it also brings you closer to the action as the three-cylinder thrums, fizzes and chirps along surprisingly sweetly. It even makes an occasional flatulent parp out of the drinking straw-thin exhaust to keep your ears happy. Something you miss in an EV.

Connection is the key though and you’re so wonderfully connected in a 170. The R’s uprated tyres and suspension means it doesn’t suffer from the waywardness of the awkward – and much more expensive – Caterham Super Seven 1600. Like all Caterhams, the steering is superb and fantastically direct. And as antiquated as the rear suspension set-up is, it actually rides amazingly well. Again, a benefit of weighing as much as a stick insect.

Hmm. I may have to give this a try. Anything else to add?

Yep, you can build this Caterham at home yourself. In theory it’s like supersized Lego. But in reality – as we found building a Caterham 160 – it’s a sweary, blood blister filled epic. Which is ultimately rewarding and saves you the £2,395 Caterham charges for its highly skilled and experienced engineers to do it for you. You can do the maths to see what your time, frustration and divorce is worth.

But more than that, in the end you’ll have simple, effective, accessible performance on every journey. Something I fear we’ll crave in years to come.






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& inspiration.

Orange is my current plan for the Rotus, but probably not with carbon stripes.
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Add lightness, not weight. Carbon is a must.

I'd love to do something like this but would definitely want a bigger engine in it than a 90hp one...
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Hence the 140-ish HP Dorito spinner.

Also found out that the Renesis is a nearly direct bolt on to the FC 5MT I have. So keeping that in my pocket in case the 13B I have isn't salvageable. Renesis are a lot cheaper & more plentiful that the older 13Bs.
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Caterham has relaunched its heritage range by unveiling two new models called Super Seven 600 and Super Seven 2000, respectively. Both models draw inspiration from the Super Seven variants that the firm introduced in the 1970s, yet they're very different.

It takes a well-trained eye to tell the 600 and the 2000 apart. Here's a cheat sheet: the 600 wears a grille with bright slats and rides on 14-inch Juno wheels, while the 2000 receives a mesh grille and 14-inch Classic wheels. Both are fitted with flared front fenders similar to the ones Caterham installed on the Super Seven in the 1970s, and they come standard with a chrome filler cap as well as LED rear lights.

The Super Seven doesn't need much to look retro, its exterior design hasn't significantly changed in many decades, but Caterham added four vintage colors to the palette to really drive the point home. Bourbon, Ashdown Green, Windsor Blue, and Fawn complement the existing range of colors, which includes Gravity Black, Exocet Red, and Firecracker Yellow. Several customization options are available as well.

Here's where the differences start: power for the 600 comes from a turbocharged, 660-cubic-centimeter three-cylinder engine sourced from Suzuki and rated at 84 horsepower. While that doesn't sound like a lot, it's enough to give the 600 a zero-to-60-mph time of 6.9 seconds. This version of the Super Seven is for folks "who want to enjoy a leisurely Sunday drive with the wind in their hair," according to Caterham.

In contrast, the 2000 was developed for enthusiasts "looking for more brutish power, faster speeds and a car that wants to be driven more enthusiastically." It's powered by Ford's 2.0-liter Duratec four-cylinder engine, which develops 180 horsepower and sends the roadster from zero to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds. Rear-wheel-drive and a manual transmission come standard, and a limited-slip differential is optional.

Offered either as a kit or fully built, the Super Seven 600 and Super Seven 2000 cost £29,990 and £39,990, respectively, figures that represent about $34,100 and $45,400. While the 600 will not be sold in the United States, the 2000 is headed to our shores.


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