Cadillac: CTS News **2018 V Revealed (page 46)**
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Please tell me thats the production model and not a concept. 
04-03-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
Interior looks vastly improved, though the pixelated pics don't show much detail. It looks like it has an Audi-ish flair to it, with a good mic of metal work here and there, wood and plastic. Now I do hope the quality of materials match Audi as well.
Front looks nice too. This might be the best interpretation of Caddy's Art & Science theme.
Front looks nice too. This might be the best interpretation of Caddy's Art & Science theme.
04-03-2006, 09:14 AM
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The front end looks hot - that interior (even with the grainy pics from 60 minutes) looks vastly better and very sporty.
04-03-2006, 01:31 PM
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I saw the show and almost wrote about it right after the show but way too busy lately as you can tell from my participation here (past month has been horrible at work).
However, seeing this vehicle even with a sheet over it, it looked like a two door car and a very low sports car. So this may be a design study concept that will continue Cadillac's future design with future models. It did not look like this car is a four door car. Certainly I can be totally wrong, because Caddy may have additional camo under the sheet that changes the general flow of the vehicle.
Finally, the interior as you see above was totally exposed. And from the first glance, it looks Mercedes-like to me, at least the center dash does. However, the point is that this looks great design-wise, I hope it's also great when we'll all be able to touch and feel it.
Overall, GM, once again shows signs of a comeback, however, they are once again late by a couple of years. This thing hould have been on the streets already (whatever it is). Cadillac should be back to being the standard of the world, once again.
However, seeing this vehicle even with a sheet over it, it looked like a two door car and a very low sports car. So this may be a design study concept that will continue Cadillac's future design with future models. It did not look like this car is a four door car. Certainly I can be totally wrong, because Caddy may have additional camo under the sheet that changes the general flow of the vehicle.
Finally, the interior as you see above was totally exposed. And from the first glance, it looks Mercedes-like to me, at least the center dash does. However, the point is that this looks great design-wise, I hope it's also great when we'll all be able to touch and feel it.
Overall, GM, once again shows signs of a comeback, however, they are once again late by a couple of years. This thing hould have been on the streets already (whatever it is). Cadillac should be back to being the standard of the world, once again.
04-03-2006, 02:35 PM
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So this may be a design study concept that will continue Cadillac's future design with future models. It did not look like this car is a four door car.
04-03-2006, 02:43 PM
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The car is too tall and too long to be a coupe. Maybe it's a 4 door coupe like the CLS, but not a traditional 2 door coupe. The interior reminds me of a Benz and Infiniti combined, which isn't a bad thing. Another thing I noticed is that the seats look nicely bolstered.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Overall, GM, once again shows signs of a comeback, however, they are once again late by a couple of years. This thing hould have been on the streets already (whatever it is). Cadillac should be back to being the standard of the world, once again.
04-19-2006, 08:42 PM
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When is this coming out? I don't think I saw it at the NY auto show...
04-20-2006, 09:28 PM
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Spy Shots: 2008 Cadillac CTS - - Source: The Car Connection
Cadillac is poised to unleash a significantly more dramatic interpretation of its "Art & Science" design language when the 2008 CTS hits the market.
The CTS's new look was unveiled in part by Bob Lutz on CBS's 60 Minutes, as he pulled back a car cover, exposing a dramatic Cadillac grille and headlight cluster to reporter Steve Kroft:
"Unfortunately this is a car that I'd like to be able to show you, but for competitive reasons we can't show it all. I'll just show you some of the, some of the advanced work that we're doing on grilles - that this is obviously a Cadillac, no concealing that," Lutz said, giving Kroft a peek.
"Would you have to kill me if I just took this thing and ripped it right out?" Kroft asked.
"I would not be pleased with you," Lutz replied.
The exchange stopped there, leaving enthusiasts to wonder more about the car beneath that cover.
Many speculated that it could be the CTS, but no-one was sure-until now. These first shots of a second-generation CTS prototype leave no doubt that the 60 Minutes car was the 2008 CTS. Seeing the entire car in the "flesh", from a number of angles, coupled with the 60 Minutes preview-assures that the next CTS will be a real visual stunner.
The steeply raked windshield and backlight give the car a coupe-like feel, with a stout, powerful stance. More pronounced wheel arches merge with a sharply chiseled waistline, giving the new car a lot of "edge," both literally and figuratively. The ground effects, character lines and trim have been simplified for a cleaner, less cluttered look than today's CTS. Some elements of the '08 CTS' design seem evolutionary, while other design touches border on revolutionary for GM's top brand.
Our partial interior shot shows a similarly clean interior theme-less blocky than today's car. The CTS' interior has always been considered one of its chief shortcomings, but the sleek armrest design and handsome wood accents seen on this prototype suggest that the passenger environment will be improved considerably.-KGP Photography
The CTS's new look was unveiled in part by Bob Lutz on CBS's 60 Minutes, as he pulled back a car cover, exposing a dramatic Cadillac grille and headlight cluster to reporter Steve Kroft:
"Unfortunately this is a car that I'd like to be able to show you, but for competitive reasons we can't show it all. I'll just show you some of the, some of the advanced work that we're doing on grilles - that this is obviously a Cadillac, no concealing that," Lutz said, giving Kroft a peek.
"Would you have to kill me if I just took this thing and ripped it right out?" Kroft asked.
"I would not be pleased with you," Lutz replied.
The exchange stopped there, leaving enthusiasts to wonder more about the car beneath that cover.
Many speculated that it could be the CTS, but no-one was sure-until now. These first shots of a second-generation CTS prototype leave no doubt that the 60 Minutes car was the 2008 CTS. Seeing the entire car in the "flesh", from a number of angles, coupled with the 60 Minutes preview-assures that the next CTS will be a real visual stunner.
The steeply raked windshield and backlight give the car a coupe-like feel, with a stout, powerful stance. More pronounced wheel arches merge with a sharply chiseled waistline, giving the new car a lot of "edge," both literally and figuratively. The ground effects, character lines and trim have been simplified for a cleaner, less cluttered look than today's CTS. Some elements of the '08 CTS' design seem evolutionary, while other design touches border on revolutionary for GM's top brand.
Our partial interior shot shows a similarly clean interior theme-less blocky than today's car. The CTS' interior has always been considered one of its chief shortcomings, but the sleek armrest design and handsome wood accents seen on this prototype suggest that the passenger environment will be improved considerably.-KGP Photography
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So for engines, I suspect, the 2.8L V6 bumped to 3.2L or a turbo added (like the one from the Saab), the 3.6 making 305+HP (this will happen with the current model most probably within 2006 or early 2007) and the 505HP LS7 used. That leaves a big gap between the last two. So another engine may be possible.
04-20-2006, 09:34 PM
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loooooooong hood, short rear...me likes.
04-20-2006, 10:22 PM
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^ Yeah. I saw the show, and I've seen the pics on another forum. The front totally blew me away... it looks awesome, IMO. Enough to almost reconsider the next G being a sure thing. When does the next CTS debut?
04-20-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
Damn it, you and me BOTH! I knew the G was going to be next, now that I've seen the new one, and don't think the TL will go RWD. But the front end on this CTS is gorgeous.
04-21-2006, 10:36 AM
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Cadillac CTS Super-V Spy Photos - - by Andreas Conradt - - AUTOMEDIA - - Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/
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We got up-close and personal with this Cadillac, and it's obvious that this isn't an "ordinary" CTS V Series! Although the V Series Cadillacs would be considered anything but ordinary, this is a far more aggressive model. Custom bodywork, huge rear tires, larger exhaust pipes, and an engine sound unlike any other CTS, leads us to believe this is the long-rumoured Super V Series. Sources are telling us that the all-new CTS may not arrive as scheduled for the 2008 model year, but may run 5 or 6 months late and enter the luxury-power races as an early 2009 model (in early 2008). And many are speculating that Cadillac will offer this exclusive "build out model" as a last hurrah for the exiting model.
We've been told that the car we shot is likely powered by the Corvette's LS7 powerplant, a 7.0-liter V8 with 505 horsepower. Powerful enough? ... B
We got up-close and personal with this Cadillac, and it's obvious that this isn't an "ordinary" CTS V Series! Although the V Series Cadillacs would be considered anything but ordinary, this is a far more aggressive model. Custom bodywork, huge rear tires, larger exhaust pipes, and an engine sound unlike any other CTS, leads us to believe this is the long-rumoured Super V Series. Sources are telling us that the all-new CTS may not arrive as scheduled for the 2008 model year, but may run 5 or 6 months late and enter the luxury-power races as an early 2009 model (in early 2008). And many are speculating that Cadillac will offer this exclusive "build out model" as a last hurrah for the exiting model.
We've been told that the car we shot is likely powered by the Corvette's LS7 powerplant, a 7.0-liter V8 with 505 horsepower. Powerful enough? ... B
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Next Gen. Cadillac CTS-V News **Rumors on power (page 1)**
Cadillac CTS Super-V Spy Photos - - by Andreas Conradt - - AUTOMEDIA - - Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/
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We've been told that the car we shot is likely powered by the Corvette's LS7 powerplant, a 7.0-liter V8 with 505 horsepower. Powerful enough? If not, just wait for the next-generation CTS Super V with the rumoured LS9 engine – a supercharged 6.2-litre V8 with 600 horsepower. B
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We've been told that the car we shot is likely powered by the Corvette's LS7 powerplant, a 7.0-liter V8 with 505 horsepower. Powerful enough? If not, just wait for the next-generation CTS Super V with the rumoured LS9 engine – a supercharged 6.2-litre V8 with 600 horsepower. B
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2008 Cadillac CTS on track for 2007 debut - - By Ed Hellwig -- - Source: http://www.edmunds.com/
When 60 Minutes recently profiled General Motors, Vice Chairman Bob Lutz pulled back the sheet from what looked like the 2008 Cadillac CTS sedan. He only revealed a corner of the new luxury sedan, but our latest spy photos show an actual prototype in action.
One thing is clear after close examination of the spy shots: The car shown on 60 Minutes was a lightly veiled concept version of the actual 2008 Cadillac CTS. The headlights are an easy tip-off as the main projector beam on the prototype is mounted on top with the marker lights sitting below instead of the other way around.
It also looks as though the horizontal grille slats are less exaggerated than the concept, a design change that's likely to maintain the necessary air flow to the production engine. The rest of the detailing up front looks spot-on. From the air inlets on each side to the size of the badge in the middle, not much changes from concept to prototype.
Profile shots, however, reveal one major new design element you didn't see on the CBS news show. Look past the checkerboard camouflage and it's clear this CTS has much smaller rear doors and windows than the current version. It gives the sedan a profile similar to the Mercedes-Benz CLS500, a car Cadillac would be smart to emulate. It's a design change that could shave a few inches off the rear-passenger area, but given that the CTS is already bigger than most of its rivals it's worth the tradeoff.
There's not much to see out back as this prototype was covered up quite well around the trunk. Although there are taillights visible underneath the tarps, it appears as though the circular protrusions are add-ons designed to keep the engineers from getting rear-ended at the test track rather than actual production units.
Also note the collection of brake lights around the bottom of the skirting. They're likely to be production units as there would be no reason to mount them otherwise. The current CTS has nothing similar so this would be a notable design change that might make the otherwise bland rear end look a little more interesting. Our brief glimpse of an open door doesn't show much of the interior, but you can at least see what the door trim will look like.
One thing we couldn't figure out from these photos is which engines and transmissions will be used for the second-generation CTS. We expect Cadillac will crank up the current 3.6-liter V6 to somewhere in the 280-to-300-horsepower range, putting it up there with the more powerful V6s already on the market. Paired with GM's new six-speed automatic transmission, it would make for a potent CTS capable of keeping pace with rivals like the 306-hp Lexus IS 350 and 298-hp Infiniti G35.
Look for the concept version of the 2008 Cadillac CTS to debut at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show with sales beginning in the fall of 2007.
One thing is clear after close examination of the spy shots: The car shown on 60 Minutes was a lightly veiled concept version of the actual 2008 Cadillac CTS. The headlights are an easy tip-off as the main projector beam on the prototype is mounted on top with the marker lights sitting below instead of the other way around.
It also looks as though the horizontal grille slats are less exaggerated than the concept, a design change that's likely to maintain the necessary air flow to the production engine. The rest of the detailing up front looks spot-on. From the air inlets on each side to the size of the badge in the middle, not much changes from concept to prototype.
Profile shots, however, reveal one major new design element you didn't see on the CBS news show. Look past the checkerboard camouflage and it's clear this CTS has much smaller rear doors and windows than the current version. It gives the sedan a profile similar to the Mercedes-Benz CLS500, a car Cadillac would be smart to emulate. It's a design change that could shave a few inches off the rear-passenger area, but given that the CTS is already bigger than most of its rivals it's worth the tradeoff.
There's not much to see out back as this prototype was covered up quite well around the trunk. Although there are taillights visible underneath the tarps, it appears as though the circular protrusions are add-ons designed to keep the engineers from getting rear-ended at the test track rather than actual production units.
Also note the collection of brake lights around the bottom of the skirting. They're likely to be production units as there would be no reason to mount them otherwise. The current CTS has nothing similar so this would be a notable design change that might make the otherwise bland rear end look a little more interesting. Our brief glimpse of an open door doesn't show much of the interior, but you can at least see what the door trim will look like.
One thing we couldn't figure out from these photos is which engines and transmissions will be used for the second-generation CTS. We expect Cadillac will crank up the current 3.6-liter V6 to somewhere in the 280-to-300-horsepower range, putting it up there with the more powerful V6s already on the market. Paired with GM's new six-speed automatic transmission, it would make for a potent CTS capable of keeping pace with rivals like the 306-hp Lexus IS 350 and 298-hp Infiniti G35.
Look for the concept version of the 2008 Cadillac CTS to debut at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show with sales beginning in the fall of 2007.
04-21-2006, 11:39 AM
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Daym its looking really nice.
04-21-2006, 11:40 AM
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Daym 600hp
the sound that thing must make
04-22-2006, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Prob cause the new platform is sitting under the old body, like the GTR under the g35 body.
04-25-2006, 08:53 AM
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They can't control axle hop on the CTS-V, what do they plan to do with the added 100HP and 70 lb-ft?
Must be based on the next gen car's platform.
Must be based on the next gen car's platform.
04-25-2006, 12:28 PM
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^ In theory they have, however I have not read of any reviews confirming. That does not mean such reviews have not taken place already.
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CTS-based coupe may be headed for dealerships by 2008
By JENS MEINERS
AutoWeek | Published 05/09/06, 8:20 am
Cadillac plans to re-enter the coupe segment with a powerfully styled CTS-based two-door, possibly by 2008 as a 2009 model.
Cadillac had hoped to keep a lid on the project, which was pushed back because of General Motors’ financial situation. The program has not been officially approved, but work is well under way—and “Bob Lutz really wants it,” sources familiar with the project tell AutoWeek. “The biggest problem for this car is GM has other, more urgent business to take care of right now.”
Insiders describe the coupe as a “bold and elegant” design statement. “This car is a new and powerful interpretation of the two-door coupe theme,” one source says.
The coupe wears now-familiar Cadillac design cues—a big, V-shaped grille, a high, wedge-shaped beltline and vertical taillights on a short trunk.
Cadillac’s coupe will be based on the upcoming, second-generation CTS sedan, which was partially unveiled April 2 by GM vice chairman Lutz on the CBS newsmagazine 60 Minutes. On the
program Lutz pulled back a car cover revealing a dramatic Cadillac grille and headlight cluster, along with a taillight, but stopped short of showing the rest of the car. Now that our spies have snapped these photographs of the actual next-generation CTS in testing, it is obvious the car Lutz showed on 60 Minutes was the 2008 CTS.
The Cadillac coupe will share its platform, front end and fender styling with the CTS, along with some other sheetmetal, to help Cadillac keep down the cost of the coupe. The coupe could come to market following the 2007 launch of the next-generation CTS sedan.
The same V6 engines offered in the CTS will power the coupe, but a V-Series coupe with a 400-hp-plus Northstar V8 under the hood is likely as well. Cadillac also is mulling over a convertible version. “It would add cost, but convertibles are where the volume is generated in this segment,” says a source.
The shrinking coupe market could be a worry for Cadillac. Main contenders include the Mercedes-Benz CLK, BMW 3 Series coupe, Infiniti G35 coupe and the upcoming Audi A5, a 2008 model year coupe based on the next-gen A4. Cadillac’s problem: Its new coupe will be significantly larger than the CLK, 3 Series and G35, raising questions of pricing and market positioning against larger and more luxurious coupes like the A5 and BMW 6 Series.
An insider estimates volumes of 25,000 to 30,000 cars annually. “They don’t know whether that is enough,” the source says. “It is a difficult market, with high initial volumes that tend to drop sharply after 18 months or so.”
While the CTS-based coupe could be developed quickly, there is speculation of a larger coupe with a V12 engine that carries design cues of the Cadillac Sixteen concept car and could be sold in the $75,000 range.
“The new vehicle is definitely a Cadillac,” an insider says. “There is a lot of enthusiasm for it within the company.” GM can probably expect that enthusiasm to extend to fans of the marque who appreciate its history.
Cadillac has a rich heritage of high-class coupes, including the 400-hp, 500-cid Eldorado of the early 1970s, and the Pininfarina-styled and built Allante convertible of the late 1980s and early 1990s. Cadillac’s last coupe was the Seville-based Eldorado Touring Coupe that ceased production in 2003.
AutoWeek | Published 05/09/06, 8:20 am
Cadillac plans to re-enter the coupe segment with a powerfully styled CTS-based two-door, possibly by 2008 as a 2009 model.
Cadillac had hoped to keep a lid on the project, which was pushed back because of General Motors’ financial situation. The program has not been officially approved, but work is well under way—and “Bob Lutz really wants it,” sources familiar with the project tell AutoWeek. “The biggest problem for this car is GM has other, more urgent business to take care of right now.”
Insiders describe the coupe as a “bold and elegant” design statement. “This car is a new and powerful interpretation of the two-door coupe theme,” one source says.
The coupe wears now-familiar Cadillac design cues—a big, V-shaped grille, a high, wedge-shaped beltline and vertical taillights on a short trunk.
Cadillac’s coupe will be based on the upcoming, second-generation CTS sedan, which was partially unveiled April 2 by GM vice chairman Lutz on the CBS newsmagazine 60 Minutes. On the
program Lutz pulled back a car cover revealing a dramatic Cadillac grille and headlight cluster, along with a taillight, but stopped short of showing the rest of the car. Now that our spies have snapped these photographs of the actual next-generation CTS in testing, it is obvious the car Lutz showed on 60 Minutes was the 2008 CTS.
The Cadillac coupe will share its platform, front end and fender styling with the CTS, along with some other sheetmetal, to help Cadillac keep down the cost of the coupe. The coupe could come to market following the 2007 launch of the next-generation CTS sedan.
The same V6 engines offered in the CTS will power the coupe, but a V-Series coupe with a 400-hp-plus Northstar V8 under the hood is likely as well. Cadillac also is mulling over a convertible version. “It would add cost, but convertibles are where the volume is generated in this segment,” says a source.
The shrinking coupe market could be a worry for Cadillac. Main contenders include the Mercedes-Benz CLK, BMW 3 Series coupe, Infiniti G35 coupe and the upcoming Audi A5, a 2008 model year coupe based on the next-gen A4. Cadillac’s problem: Its new coupe will be significantly larger than the CLK, 3 Series and G35, raising questions of pricing and market positioning against larger and more luxurious coupes like the A5 and BMW 6 Series.
An insider estimates volumes of 25,000 to 30,000 cars annually. “They don’t know whether that is enough,” the source says. “It is a difficult market, with high initial volumes that tend to drop sharply after 18 months or so.”
While the CTS-based coupe could be developed quickly, there is speculation of a larger coupe with a V12 engine that carries design cues of the Cadillac Sixteen concept car and could be sold in the $75,000 range.
“The new vehicle is definitely a Cadillac,” an insider says. “There is a lot of enthusiasm for it within the company.” GM can probably expect that enthusiasm to extend to fans of the marque who appreciate its history.
Cadillac has a rich heritage of high-class coupes, including the 400-hp, 500-cid Eldorado of the early 1970s, and the Pininfarina-styled and built Allante convertible of the late 1980s and early 1990s. Cadillac’s last coupe was the Seville-based Eldorado Touring Coupe that ceased production in 2003.
05-09-2006, 11:31 AM
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The same V6 engines offered in the CTS will power the coupe, but a V-Series coupe with a 400-hp-plus Northstar V8 under the hood is likely as well.
The same V6 engines offered in the CTS will power the coupe, but a V-Series coupe with a 400-hp-plus Northstar V8 under the hood is likely as well.