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Old 05-10-2010, 10:19 AM
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Meh. While I appreciate Acura and Buick offering a wagon they will not IMO sell many. It will be a failed experiment.
especially those TSX Wagons that have been in blue. The one at the NY AutoShow last month was blue and God was that butt ugly looking. I've love the sales reps there talking about it like its God's gift to man and I'm just thinking to myself that, that thing is going to be one massive FAIL!
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I like the front end and side views of the new Regal but there is just something about the rear end that just doesn't look right to me, I don't know if it is that weird looking lip spolier coming off the trunk or what but I just think the rear end doesn't flow as nicely as the rest of the car!

Personally, though, I sat in both cloth and leather seat Regals at the autoshow last month and boy, I thought the TSX's leather seats were firm and hard on my back, these Regal seats took the cake. As soon as I sat in them they pushed so much on my back I had to get out. I even made sure the lumbar support wasn't out and it wasn't. Ouch for me, but I have a sensitive back but others might find the really firm seats really good on their back, who knows. Seat quality/comfort is always highly subjective!

I do think Buick is going in the right direction! Buick seems to be more popular and in the lime light right now more than Cadillac! The Buick exhibt at the auto show had much much larger crowds then the Cadillac one did when my Dad and I were there that day! Though I personally would take a CTS over the Regal or LaCrosse anyday!
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i like the wagon. at it looking so tiny next to those two cars.
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Very nice wagon!
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I honestly can't see a single reason to buy a TSX over one of these.
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Given that its basically an Opel, I'm curious to know what the reliability ratings of Opels are...

I mean how has the G8 and the GTO held up now that they've got a few years on em'?

I would think that should help understand how the insignia based regal will hold up over time reliability wise.
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Given that its basically an Opel, I'm curious to know what the reliability ratings of Opels are...

I mean how has the G8 and the GTO held up now that they've got a few years on em'?

I would think that should help understand how the insignia based regal will hold up over time reliability wise.
I don't really know but if you break it down, the engine, platform, and transmission are all reliable pieces we get in US GMs anyway, so I don't think there's anything too crazy about the Euro version that should kill its dependability.
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:39 AM
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I'm so glad this got the green light! I'll def consider purchasing this but I'll wait until the new Lexus IS is revealed.
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I don't think that there is a market for a 4-cyl. turbo Buick small car, much less a manual one.

The G8 GT/GXP was just fine. That's the car that should have revived at Buick. Not to say that the Insigna is not nice.... I have seen many of them last year in Europe.
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I don't think that there is a market for a 4-cyl. turbo Buick small car, much less a manual one.

The G8 GT/GXP was just fine. That's the car that should have revived at Buick. Not to say that the Insigna is not nice.... I have seen many of them last year in Europe.
Well, it's been noted that Buick is targeting a younger demographic with this car. And it's competing with the TSX directly, and, I think, 3 series. What the Regal GS offer is an excellent package. Imagine if Acura had offered a TSX Type S with a revised RDX turbo engine.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:37 AM
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I don't think that there is a market for a 4-cyl. turbo Buick small car, much less a manual one.

The G8 GT/GXP was just fine. That's the car that should have revived at Buick. Not to say that the Insigna is not nice.... I have seen many of them last year in Europe.
True. We don't yet know what the market for a four-cylinder Buick is. However, Buick was confident enough to replace entry Lacrosses completely with I-4s so they must be fairly confident. I guess time will tell.

A Commodore platformed vehicle is a basis that, I agree, would make for a good Buick revival. Slotting above the Regal (thus replacing the Lacrosse), I could see a G8 with a Lacrosse-esque exterior and interior deal. Of course this all would push a model starting in the low or mid-30s, but hey, there's the Genesis and 300 to contend with.
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However, Buick was confident enough to replace entry Lacrosses completely with I-4s so they must be fairly confident. I guess time will tell.
My guess is that they were indirectly forced by Obama, and their 2016 mpg requirements.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:26 PM
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My guess is that they were indirectly forced by Obama, and their 2016 mpg requirements.
Like everyone else - I seriously doubt Hyundai would have skipped offering a V-6 in the Sonata but for these upcoming rules.
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What an awesome President!
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What an awesome President!
I love all the promises he's kept, such as ending the war (SOFA-I treaty nonwithstanding), cutting taxes while not adding any new ones, ending the PATRIOT Act, waiting five days to sign bills, stricter rules on lobbyists, killing or heavily revising NAFTA .....

It's tiring for me to type all of his successes.
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:28 PM
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GM officially confirmed the Regal GS this afternoon.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:56 PM
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I love all the promises he's kept, such as ending the war (SOFA-I treaty nonwithstanding), cutting taxes while not adding any new ones, ending the PATRIOT Act, waiting five days to sign bills, stricter rules on lobbyists, killing or heavily revising NAFTA .....

It's tiring for me to type all of his successes.
Dont shit on this thread too. Keep the R&P in R&P.
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Dont shit on this thread too. Keep the R&P in R&P.
Yes sir!
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I love the Regal GS. I just hope they don't water down the production version...
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I love the Regal GS. I just hope they don't water down the production version...
no plans to yet.

gota say I'm very impressed!
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I love the Regal GS. I just hope they don't water down the production version...
There's nothing to water down - it's been in production as an Opel for 2 years and GM is not going spend more than a few cents on Buick badges to Americanize it.
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There's nothing to water down - it's been in production as an Opel for 2 years and GM is not going spend more than a few cents on Buick badges to Americanize it.
And a different engine, and maybe a different transmission.
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^ I thought we're talking about the looks.
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As long as it outhandles the TSX by a fair margin as early reviews claim, anything other than the base engine should be sufficient.
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^ I thought we're talking about the looks.
Whoops, nevermind me then.

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A much needed add to the Buick lineup. Personally, I love it. I only hope that the interior layout (which isn't as luxurious as the Lacrosse, even comparably speaking on a "lesser car") isn't to Teutonic for the N.A. market. That said, the new C-Class's interior is in that same vein and it does fine. Then again, it is a C-Class...
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I saw a Buick Regal ad for the first time tonight. Looked very good but it was not a GS. The commercial said price as shown was $31k which makes me think that a GS is going to be mid-30s.

The GS is what is going to get people into the showroom. They need to start pimping that car.
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If GM just takes this Insignia (the Opel model name), and tarts it up with Buick badges only, it will be a nice handling car. Europeans prefer a firm ride / handling car, and if Buick does not [email protected]#$ this part up, it will be a winner.

I think, and this is just my opinion, to be competitive with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Acura, Infiniti, (or at least invited to the discussion) GM should do the following to make this a real winner:

1: Invest in good quality control

2: Do not cheap out on the interior parts

3: The engine choices should top out at a 300 HP AWD car, with either 6MT or a sequential Auto (I know they will be autos only, but there is hope). Just don't make the entry model an absolute dog (lets say 150HP). The starting engine could be 200 - 225.

4: price it where it is a value compared to those above.

5: AWD should be an option.

Just my opinion, nothing more.
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If GM just takes this Insignia (the Opel model name), and tarts it up with Buick badges only, it will be a nice handling car. Europeans prefer a firm ride / handling car, and if Buick does not [email protected]#$ this part up, it will be a winner.

I think, and this is just my opinion, to be competitive with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Acura, Infiniti, (or at least invited to the discussion) GM should do the following to make this a real winner:

1: Invest in good quality control

2: Do not cheap out on the interior parts

3: The engine choices should top out at a 300 HP AWD car, with either 6MT or a sequential Auto (I know they will be autos only, but there is hope). Just don't make the entry model an absolute dog (lets say 150HP). The starting engine could be 200 - 225.

4: price it where it is a value compared to those above.

5: AWD should be an option.

Just my opinion, nothing more.
I agree with you mostly, although keep in mind Buick isn't meant really to compete with the Germans. As an upscale or "entry luxury" brand they compete with Acura, Saab, Volvo, etc.

Initial reviews praise the ride/handling payoff on this car, so it seems like they haven't messed with it too much. Interior quality and materials are also noted to be quite good.

The 2012 GS model will have a torque vectoring AWD system standard, and it will probably have a 6M choice with the paddle shift automatic being a no cost option. The 2011 CXL Turbo offers a choice of the automatic or manual, actually.

So they're well on their way to fufilling your thoughts!
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I saw one on the road and it looked good. I wonder how many MTs they actually sell.
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I saw one on the road and it looked good. I wonder how many MTs they actually sell.
Well the turbocharged engine (and thus the manual) isn't yet for sale.....unless you meant how many they WILL sell?
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Drove one today.. Hopefully the turbo model is a bit more engaging of a drive. It was decent but some interior bits were cheap and the price here in Canada a bit high.
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Drove one today.. Hopefully the turbo model is a bit more engaging of a drive. It was decent but some interior bits were cheap and the price here in Canada a bit high.
The turbo will be about 40hp more than the CXL you drove.

I'll be interested to see what the insides look like. I haven't seen one up close. I'm waiting for the GS to hit showrooms before I go look at them.

I figure if I'm going to torture myself it might as well be over a car I'd actually want to own.
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I've sat in a new Regal and overall it's very nice. The interior is very Germany as Buick may want, not very playful but well built and some nice materials. Reminds me of a BMW (but I liked the overall interior more than the 3-Series' design).

I did not drive it since I'll only be interested in the GS model that's still a year away, but so far its dynamics have been praised in the magazines. I can only imagine a turbocharger and manual make it better, or in the case of the GS an advanced AWD system and mooooore power.
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Guys, do you envision the aftermarket products to be plentiful? If the engine options leave a bit to be desired, I think I'd like to bump up the power just a bit.
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Guys, do you envision the aftermarket products to be plentiful? If the engine options leave a bit to be desired, I think I'd like to bump up the power just a bit.
I would imagine that the 2.0 turbo will eventually find its way into other cars and that will help the demand for tuning.

But I haven't given up hope that Buick will put the 320hp turbo V6 from Europe in instead of the 250hp turbo 4-cylinder ...
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Guys, do you envision the aftermarket products to be plentiful? If the engine options leave a bit to be desired, I think I'd like to bump up the power just a bit.
Yes. The basic engine is found in several GMs and now non-GMs, from this Buick to Chevys, Pontiac, Saturn, Saab, etc.

I'd do the same.
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