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They really did a great job on this car, both inside and out. I'm seriously considering buying it later this year (I'll be looking for a car by that time). Ofcourse, sitting in it will be the deciding factor. Other than that, the only deal breaker for me is faux wood. I don't like it in any car, from Acura, Buick, etc...
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I'm really impressed with the pics and what it says they've done with it. There are a few minor things here and there that aren't my taste, but overall, it's a great looking car. If it pans out as good in person, it'll be another hit for GM that the vast majority of people fail to recognize.
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Looks pretty good.
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So I see, the TL doesn't compete with the 3 series, g37, IS, C-class after all! It competes with the LaCrosse and MKS. They all got FWD and AWD. Sad?
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Originally Posted by vybzkartel
So I see, the TL doesn't compete with the 3 series, g37, IS, C-class after all! It competes with the LaCrosse and MKS. They all got FWD and AWD. Sad?
id pick this V6 lacrosse over any 4gTL anyday.
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Originally Posted by vybzkartel
So I see, the TL doesn't compete with the 3 series, g37, IS, C-class after all! It competes with the LaCrosse and MKS. They all got FWD and AWD. Sad?
Actually, it's the MKZ, not MKS. Lincoln positions the MKS a class above, and wants it to be seen as a viable competitor to the M/GS/E/5/S80, etc. I'd say the Lacrosse's main competitor is the ES350, followed by the TL/S60/MKZ, etc; all FWD entry level entries... This car is hot as hell. I'd go straight for the CXS, with the 19' wheels, heated cooled seats, etc. If they price this right, it'll be a run away hit. Small details, like the leather/wood steer wheel, the HUD display (as shown in the interior pic) and stitched gauge hood/dash/door inserts makes this car very nice considering it's entry lux.
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I really like that sloping roofline. That was pulled off very well, but they just HAD to tack on that GM "badge of excellence"..... ugh. I still like the Invicta name better. It sounds more like an expensive timepiece rather than a sport.

Originally Posted by agranado
id pick a deformed pile of over any 4gTL anyday.
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very nice car... only things i dont like are the stupid portholes on TOP of the hood and the ugly chrome lining above the tail lights... talk about chrome overload on the rear end
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That's gorgeous! long live chrome
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
I really like that sloping roofline. That was pulled off very well, but they just HAD to tack on that GM "badge of excellence"..... ugh. I still like the Invicta name better. It sounds more like an expensive timepiece rather than a sport.



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I agree with the "badge of excellence" bullshit! GM should drop those things immediately; it's the worse idea Lutz ever came up with. The "GM" brand shouldn't be built on ever car, IMHO. It should be the brand of that particular make; Buick's (and Chevy, and Caddy, etc) brand should stand on it's on. Slapping a little silver GM on the car doesn't give the consumer a warm and fuzzy fuckin' feeling when they see it.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
very nice car... only things i dont like are the stupid portholes on TOP of the hood and the ugly chrome lining above the tail lights... talk about chrome overload on the rear end
The portholes are a very cool design aspect, IMO, and one that Buick can claim is all their own. They've even inadvertently started a very lame trend of putting those terrible stick-on portholes every piece of crap car out there... putting them on the hood makes more sense than on the fender, IMO. As far as the chrome, that little design trick really sets off the tail lamps. Something tells me that the same effect will work on the Lacrosse.
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Originally Posted by phile
that's gorgeous! Long live chrome
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There's some good information on Buick's website. My main concern has been answered there; they're using real wood for the interior; "dark poplar wood appliques." The new Lacrosse also has an available panoramic sunroof, just like the ES. If I get one I'll definitely get the heads up display in it. They've also got some great pics...

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Oh shit... finally found real world pics. This car's looks great, and the interior is fuckin' fantastic. Note the gauges and french stitched leather dash... very nice. I look forward to seeing some pricing.



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this car is going to revive the buick brand very quickly if people actually see whats going on..

lets see a redone GNX!
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Exterior real world pics.


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damn.. check out that push button start
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LED Tail Lamps...

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Damn, it looks GREAT in silver. The interior looks awesome too, but I want to see what it looks like in all black, though the gray interior in the silver car looked great. My favorite part still has to be the ambient lighting/HUD combo with its matching colors, and the interior layout is elegant and unique without being too flashy or overdone. I'm just not a fan of wood on any car though.... I still wish Acura continued on with the bowling ball trim. Its underrated, it doesn't evoke the sense of senility in a car yet still has some class, better than aluminum trim....

And IMO this is one of the first Buicks that really pull off the portholes correctly. None of the current Buicks' looks are enhanced by the portholes. These portholes look more aggressive and are placed at a more aesthetically pleasing location.

My dad has always liked oldschool big body Buicks, Caddys and Lincolns.... my uncle used to have a big Cadillac convertible way back when. I wonder if I can push him away from his Camry?
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Damn, it looks GREAT in silver. The interior looks awesome too, but I want to see what it looks like in all black, though the gray interior in the silver car looked great. My favorite part still has to be the ambient lighting/HUD combo with its matching colors, and the interior layout is elegant and unique without being too flashy or overdone. I'm just not a fan of wood on any car though.... I still wish Acura continued on with the bowling ball trim. Its underrated, it doesn't evoke the sense of senility in a car yet still has some class, better than aluminum trim....

And IMO this is one of the first Buicks that really pull off the portholes correctly. None of the current Buicks' looks are enhanced by the portholes. These portholes look more aggressive and are placed at a more aesthetically pleasing location.

My dad has always liked oldschool big body Buicks, Caddys and Lincolns.... my uncle used to have a big Cadillac convertible way back when. I wonder if I can push him away from his Camry?
I agree about the car looking great in silver. Why car manufacturers continue to show case cars in red, I don't know. This red on the Lacrosse will probably wind up being one of the colors I like the least. I think it'll look sinister in black; a black on black combo with the ambient blue lighting at night will be sic on this car. Personally, I'm leaning toward getting the in charcoal gray with the light interior shown in the pics above; I think that'll give it a luxurious look. I think the placement of the portholes on the hood are much better than on the fenders, and as Insideline mentioned, it seems to be the more functional placement of them anyway. I've always had a soft spot for Buicks (my fam's had two), but I refuse to get one if I have to settle for less. I consider less, fake wood, wheels that are to small, drab looks, materials that aren't to par, etc. The only thing I'd change is that fact that it's FWD/AWD. I have a lead foot, and was aiming at getting the next gen M37. Though the two cars aren't nearly direct competitors, the class of the vehicle isn't the only deciding factor for me.
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It's fantastic! Great design inside and out....great engines...great transmission.

WIN WIN WIN!!!
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Wow It looks like the Enclave wasn't a fluke. Now GM needs to market the out of this thing like they did the Malibu.

Design-wise, the kick-up in the rear quarter panel is beautiful. Nice stance and decent wheel-well to tire ratio. And GM is finally putting wheels on its cars that don't scream "rental car!"

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but as an owner who had a TL and an MDX, now a TSX and MDX in his garage, I'd be proud to have an Enclave and a Lacrosse in there as well. That's saying a lot.

Not bad GM, not bad at all...
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That rear seat DVD entertainment system's cool. Wonder what that'll cost...



I like the shape of the exhaust outlets. I've seen the shape used alot on concepts, but not on to many production vehicles.


Leather stitched inserts on the door panels, both front and rear.



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2010 BUICK LaCROSSE PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

Overview

Model:


2010 LaCrosse CX, CXL and CXS

Body style / driveline:


front-drive/all-wheel-drive, front-engine, four-door, five- passenger sedan

Construction:


integral

EPA vehicle class:


midsize sedan

Powertrains

Engines


3.0L V-6 VVT DI


3.6L V-6 VVT DI

Displacement (cu in / cc):


182.7 / 2994


217 / 3564

Bore & stroke (in / mm):


89.0 x 80.2


3.7 x 3.37 / 94 x 85.6

Cylinder head material:


cast aluminum


cast aluminum

Valvetrain:


DOHC with four valves per cylinder; continuously variable valve timing


DOHC with four valves per cylinder; continuously variable valve timing

Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm):


255 / 190 @ 6950 (est)


280 / 209 @ 6400 (est)

Torque (lb.-ft. / Nm @ rpm):


211 / 286 @ 5600 (est)


261 / 354 @ 5200 (est)

Estimated fuel economy (city / hwy):


18 / 27


17 / 26

Transmission:


Hydra-Matic 6T70 six-speed

Final drive ratio:


2.77:1 (w/ 3.0L)
3.66:1 (w/ 3.6L)

Chassis/Suspension

Suspension (front):


MacPherson strut coil-over-spring; twin-tube dampers with gas-charged valving; hollow direct-acting stabilizer bar

Suspension (rear):


four-link (CX); "H"-arm (CXL, CXS); real-time damping available

Steering type:


power; variable-effort rack-and-pinion

Brakes:


split, dual-circuit four-wheel-disc with power assist

Wheel/tire sizes:


17-inch, 18-inch and 19-inch

Dimensions

Wheelbase (in / mm):


111.7 / 2837

Overall length (in / mm):


197 / 5003

Overall width (in / mm):


73.1 / 1858

Overall height (in / mm):


58.9 / 1497

Track (in / mm):


front: 61.5 / 1565
rear: 61.6 / 1587

Curb weight (lb / kg):


CX: 3948 / 1791 (est)
CXL FWD: 4018 / 1822 (est)
CXL AWD: 4199 / 1904 (est)
CXS: 4065 / 1844 (est)

Fuel capacity (gal / L):


CX, CXL FWD, CXS: 18.4 / 69.6
CXL AWD: 19.5 / 73.8
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Originally Posted by titan
There's some good information on Buick's website. My main concern has been answered there; they're using real wood for the interior; "dark poplar wood appliques."
BMW uses that type of wood too. And I love the gray interior.

This is a sad day for Acura. When I look at the TSX TL and RL, I just think of SOOO many things that I would do differently if I had the task of redesigning those cars. It's as if it was still a rough draft.

With the Buick, I don't get that at all. Buick now knows how to finish a car, the details work, it's just right.
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^^ It's been a sad bunch of years for Acura.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ It's been a sad bunch of years for Acura.
Since you guys like this Buick so much who is going to be the first to buy one?
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If i was in need of a car and had the money Id opt for either this or a g8
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Originally Posted by Mansa24
Since you guys like this Buick so much who is going to be the first to buy one?
(Sigh) I had every intention of buying the next gen M37. I know it's in the next class up, but with this car damn near loaded, I really wouldn't be losing alot content or comfort wise. I have a lead foot, and the RWD that the M would offer is the maing sticking point for me not getting this car. That said, I could save thousands of dollars getting this car, and all I'm grappling with how serious would I push the M anyway. The Lacrosse's European tuned, and the CXS (the car I would get) has the active damping system that has worked wonders on FWD GM cars for years; most notably the last gen FWD Caddy Seville. So I'm SERIOUSLY considering this car; The real world pics of both the interior and exterior are impressing the hell out of me.
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If I had some spare change to throw around (which I dont) I'd get this as my next car. Of course it wouldn't be a first year model, or even a second year model. It'd be just before the mid-cycle refresh, that way if they do fuck it up (which they will, it's too perfect right now for them to not do it), I won't be stuck with it.
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Originally Posted by Mansa24
Since you guys like this Buick so much who is going to be the first to buy one?
I'm hoping Buick (and GM for that matter) realizes that people are still apprehensive about investing in GM products and puts some attractive lease rates to promote Lacrosse sales. In this climate, money factors are surely high, but GM needs this launch to be successful.

That being said, I'd have no problem leasing this vehicle for 3 years. If everything went satisfactory during the 3 years, then I'd think about buying the next model...

The more I look at this car the more I say "hats off" to GM...I also think with the expected MSRP not to exceed $35,000 for a fully loaded CSX (nav, 19's, rear DVD, 3.6L 280hp V6 w/6sp, etc.), why would someone plunk down $50,000+ for a 3.7L 300hp V6 w/5sp Acura RL?


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