Bugatti: Galibier 16C Concept news **Will Not Be Produced (page 2)**
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Bugatti: Galibier 16C Concept news **Will Not Be Produced (page 2)**
From Bugatti...
Bugatti Veyron 16.4; fastest, quickest, most powerful. It was an expensive brief, but the company met it, albeit at extremely high costs. So high in fact that the scheduled 300 (only 125 have been delivered so far) profit-bleeders to be built will never return any money to parent company Volkswagen. But resilient VW is about to do it again!
Bugatti media communications manager Julius Kruta told Emirates Business that Veyron is not the end of the story, even though it so nearly became the end of VW itself.
“Even though it is not economically viable for us, we will do it again,” said Kruta, “we have bigger plans for the future and the next one from our stables will be even more expensive than the Veyron.” US luxury car company Dimora may have a word or two about this with their planned USD 2 million Natalia.
We know the Veyron is pretty special; the figures speak for themselves: 16 cylinders, four turbos, 1001 ps/ 736kW, 0 – 100km/h in 2.5 seconds, top speed of 407km/h. Ironically if it didn’t have a rear wing it would fly off! And Brad Pitt, if you are reading this, please email us to confirm if the going price is still USD1.3 million.
“We were putting the car [Veyron] through a hot test drive session in South Africa when a bird flew right into its path. At the speed of 330km/h it was like a small missile being hurled at the car and it smashed through the six aluminium meshes in front of the radiator and destroyed it.”
At this point there is no word to confirm the new super saloon will be called Lydia or Royale, after the classic 1927 example. What we do know is that Lydia/ Royale will be in addition to a smaller version of the Veyron, to be made to compete in the Ferrari F430/ Lamborghini Gallardo space. Then appears a smaller version of Royale itself, created to attack the Audi RS 6/ BMW M5/ Mercedes-Benz E AMG/ Cadillac CTS-V/ Jaguar XF-R/ Porsche Panamera Turbo crowd. Only now I realise how big this crowd has actually grown over the years!
Bugatti media communications manager Julius Kruta told Emirates Business that Veyron is not the end of the story, even though it so nearly became the end of VW itself.
“Even though it is not economically viable for us, we will do it again,” said Kruta, “we have bigger plans for the future and the next one from our stables will be even more expensive than the Veyron.” US luxury car company Dimora may have a word or two about this with their planned USD 2 million Natalia.
We know the Veyron is pretty special; the figures speak for themselves: 16 cylinders, four turbos, 1001 ps/ 736kW, 0 – 100km/h in 2.5 seconds, top speed of 407km/h. Ironically if it didn’t have a rear wing it would fly off! And Brad Pitt, if you are reading this, please email us to confirm if the going price is still USD1.3 million.
“We were putting the car [Veyron] through a hot test drive session in South Africa when a bird flew right into its path. At the speed of 330km/h it was like a small missile being hurled at the car and it smashed through the six aluminium meshes in front of the radiator and destroyed it.”
At this point there is no word to confirm the new super saloon will be called Lydia or Royale, after the classic 1927 example. What we do know is that Lydia/ Royale will be in addition to a smaller version of the Veyron, to be made to compete in the Ferrari F430/ Lamborghini Gallardo space. Then appears a smaller version of Royale itself, created to attack the Audi RS 6/ BMW M5/ Mercedes-Benz E AMG/ Cadillac CTS-V/ Jaguar XF-R/ Porsche Panamera Turbo crowd. Only now I realise how big this crowd has actually grown over the years!
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Originally Posted by charliemike
How about fixing Volkswagen before embarking on another expensive Bugatti?
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How about fixing Volkswagen before embarking on another expensive Bugatti?
They built the VW Phantom for a few years you saw how that went. in the entire time it was in production and since it's went out of production i've seen 2 or 3. that's it.
I've seen more Caddy STS-Vs(i've seen maybe 5-6 of those) which is about the same price as a Phantom.
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
I agree with this statement 100%. VW needs to focus on the core of VW and the "average joe" cars not some baseball player or rock star car. basically something you'll see on MTV 'Cribs'
They built the VW Phantom for a few years you saw how that went. in the entire time it was in production and since it's went out of production i've seen 2 or 3. that's it.
I've seen more Caddy STS-Vs(i've seen maybe 5-6 of those) which is about the same price as a Phantom.
They built the VW Phantom for a few years you saw how that went. in the entire time it was in production and since it's went out of production i've seen 2 or 3. that's it.
I've seen more Caddy STS-Vs(i've seen maybe 5-6 of those) which is about the same price as a Phantom.
Phaeton?
No one is going to spend $70k and then go to a dealer and have them spit in your face. And that's a good experience at a VW dealer.
VW can change the Golf to Rabbit to Hare to Fucking Jackelope and it won't make a difference. They have a huge problem with build quality and their dealer network.
I love my MS3 but I would have gladly bought a GTI if I thought that I could trust it and that I'd actually get help if I brought it in for warranty work.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Err, what? Phantom?
Phaeton?
No one is going to spend $70k and then go to a dealer and have them spit in your face. And that's a good experience at a VW dealer.
VW can change the Golf to Rabbit to Hare to Fucking Jackelope and it won't make a difference. They have a huge problem with build quality and their dealer network.
I love my MS3 but I would have gladly bought a GTI if I thought that I could trust it and that I'd actually get help if I brought it in for warranty work.
Phaeton?
No one is going to spend $70k and then go to a dealer and have them spit in your face. And that's a good experience at a VW dealer.
VW can change the Golf to Rabbit to Hare to Fucking Jackelope and it won't make a difference. They have a huge problem with build quality and their dealer network.
I love my MS3 but I would have gladly bought a GTI if I thought that I could trust it and that I'd actually get help if I brought it in for warranty work.
jackelope....
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FINALLY!!!!!!! I was gettin so tired of seeing all those blasted Veyrons!!!!
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Originally Posted by srika
FINALLY!!!!!!! I was gettin so tired of seeing all those blasted Veyrons!!!!
Yea, those plain jane Veyrons are everywhere...and so vanilla looking.
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Originally Posted by elessar
Thank God! I'm tired of driving the same Bugatti as everyone else on my block! It's about time those clowns came out with something more exclusive for me to buy.
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Originally Posted by elessar
Thank God! I'm tired of driving the same Bugatti as everyone else on my block! It's about time those clowns came out with something more exclusive for me to buy.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
VW can change the Golf to Rabbit to Hare to Fucking Jackelope and it won't make a difference. They have a huge problem with build quality and their dealer network.
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Bugatti Royale to Debut at Frankfurt
From Worldcarfans...
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090406....t-at-frankfurt
The rumor mill is in full gear with speculation of a new Bugatti being introduced at the Frankfurt Motor Show. Supposedly the new model, a concept of the Bugatti Royale, could be either a faster, more expensive car. However, what the car is exactly is anyone's guess.
Bugatti has also been rumored to be working on a better-stronger-faster replacement to the Veyron, as well as a more "cost effective" sports sedan. In the current economy, the company certainly has reason to flex their luxe credentials, but they clearly have a need to show off a more "affordable" model. A $200,000 high-end supercar has also been speculated.
The Volkswagen-owned automaker (or is that Porsche-owned?), has also been believed to be working on the Project Lydia, a $3 million, 1175 horsepower super supercar that is more geared for the track than the touring Veyron. "Lydia" theoretically has a tuned up version of the 8-liter quad-turbo W16 currently found on the Veyron. Named for the wife of company-founder Ettore Bugatti, the car could blast through the Veyron's top speed of 400 km/h (249mph).
It would certainly be unusual timing if a new, extremely expensive Royale were to come out now. The original $30,000 Type 41 Royale was planned as a 25-unit limited edition, but since it was introduced at the beginning of the Great Depression, they were only able to sell six. However, in today's money, that would be a sticker price of around $368,800, a far cry from the 1.1 million euro retail price of the Veyron.
Bugatti has also been rumored to be working on a better-stronger-faster replacement to the Veyron, as well as a more "cost effective" sports sedan. In the current economy, the company certainly has reason to flex their luxe credentials, but they clearly have a need to show off a more "affordable" model. A $200,000 high-end supercar has also been speculated.
The Volkswagen-owned automaker (or is that Porsche-owned?), has also been believed to be working on the Project Lydia, a $3 million, 1175 horsepower super supercar that is more geared for the track than the touring Veyron. "Lydia" theoretically has a tuned up version of the 8-liter quad-turbo W16 currently found on the Veyron. Named for the wife of company-founder Ettore Bugatti, the car could blast through the Veyron's top speed of 400 km/h (249mph).
It would certainly be unusual timing if a new, extremely expensive Royale were to come out now. The original $30,000 Type 41 Royale was planned as a 25-unit limited edition, but since it was introduced at the beginning of the Great Depression, they were only able to sell six. However, in today's money, that would be a sticker price of around $368,800, a far cry from the 1.1 million euro retail price of the Veyron.
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Galibier 16C Concept Previewed...
From Motor Authority...
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...le-super-sedan
This year is an important one for Bugatti. Not only does 2009 represent the centenary of the legendary marque but it also now marks the unveiling of a super sedan that may constitute the future plans of the company. One hundred years to the month since the company was founded by Ettore Bugatti, we now have our first look at Bugatti’s latest concept: the 2009 Bugatti Galibier 16C.
Speaking previously, Bugatti chief Franz-Josef Paefgen revealed that there are in fact three proposed designs for the next-gen Bugatti. This news mates well with what Bugatti officials told TheCarConnection in July, which is that the Galibier 16C is in fact a design model being shown to clients and dealers.
According to a new report, the concept may go into production once the run of Veyron’s have come to an end, expected to be sometime in 2012.
The Galibier 16C is constructed from a mix of aluminum and carbon-fiber, which will ensure that it is the lightest car in its class. The body itself is made of polished aluminum and dark blue carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), and LED lights flank each end.
Styling is borrowed from the Bugatti Type 57 Atlantique, including the historic model’s hatchback and spine design elements. Inside, there’s space for four and a large wooden dash that is dominated by two centrally mounted dials showing available power and speed. A removable clock manufactured by Switzerland’s Parmigiani also features.
Although no technical details have been revealed, the Galibier 16C is thought to feature the Veyron’s 8.0-liter 16-cylinder engine and an output of around 800 horsepower, though it does away with the four turbos and replaces them with a two-stage supercharging system. Another key difference is the installation of an 8-speed automatic transmission rather than the Veyron’s advanced dual-clutch unit.
A final decision on possible production plans of the Galibier 16C is expected by the spring of 2010. In the meantime, Bugatti has its hands full filling current order lists. The company only has 50 spots left for the Veyron, of which the total build will be 300 units. The Grand Sport model, which is limited to just 150 models, has already received several dozen orders.
Speaking previously, Bugatti chief Franz-Josef Paefgen revealed that there are in fact three proposed designs for the next-gen Bugatti. This news mates well with what Bugatti officials told TheCarConnection in July, which is that the Galibier 16C is in fact a design model being shown to clients and dealers.
According to a new report, the concept may go into production once the run of Veyron’s have come to an end, expected to be sometime in 2012.
The Galibier 16C is constructed from a mix of aluminum and carbon-fiber, which will ensure that it is the lightest car in its class. The body itself is made of polished aluminum and dark blue carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), and LED lights flank each end.
Styling is borrowed from the Bugatti Type 57 Atlantique, including the historic model’s hatchback and spine design elements. Inside, there’s space for four and a large wooden dash that is dominated by two centrally mounted dials showing available power and speed. A removable clock manufactured by Switzerland’s Parmigiani also features.
Although no technical details have been revealed, the Galibier 16C is thought to feature the Veyron’s 8.0-liter 16-cylinder engine and an output of around 800 horsepower, though it does away with the four turbos and replaces them with a two-stage supercharging system. Another key difference is the installation of an 8-speed automatic transmission rather than the Veyron’s advanced dual-clutch unit.
A final decision on possible production plans of the Galibier 16C is expected by the spring of 2010. In the meantime, Bugatti has its hands full filling current order lists. The company only has 50 spots left for the Veyron, of which the total build will be 300 units. The Grand Sport model, which is limited to just 150 models, has already received several dozen orders.
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It caught the Panamera disease.
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Looks a hell of a lot better than the Porsche Panamera
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Few issues with it,
1) Why did the Panamera rape the last gen Skoda Octavia to make this thing.
2) Galiber is a fugly name, and reminds me of the Caliber..which is still a horrible name for that mopar piece of crap btw.
Besides that, who can argue with 800hp?
1) Why did the Panamera rape the last gen Skoda Octavia to make this thing.
2) Galiber is a fugly name, and reminds me of the Caliber..which is still a horrible name for that mopar piece of crap btw.
Besides that, who can argue with 800hp?
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i like the whole chrome on it...although i think totally chromed out high end vehicles look
i need more from the interior though, too plain. but i do love the surfboard center console
i need more from the interior though, too plain. but i do love the surfboard center console
#28
That interior is atrocious, it should be a crime to use high quality materials in such an ugly design. It looks like the interior wouldn't be out of place in a 70's Benz.
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You guys are nuts, that car is amazing. It has 100x the road presence of the Panamera. It's like they took drawings of future cars from the 1930's and made it today.
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On the interior whats with the gap between the front driver door and the B pillar part of inside the car? My car which cost like 50 times less has a smaller gap! The front of the car looks nice though.
#31
not only is the interior ugly looking, the exterior is also. WTF is with the octuple exhaust outlets? And the chrome look is a little much, but I guess its distinctly Bugatti. As for the Panamera looking better, that's not something you'd want to be proud of, and IMO it's only true if you're talking about the Panamera from the b-pillar forward. The rear of the Panamera is terrible, period.
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The sizzle in the Steak
I would love if a car maker attempted to make a modern art deco influenced design...but this isn't it.
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I think the interior has the most art deco style, but the exterior has a modern look with art deco elements.
Compare the lines in this table to the lines in the interior photo:
The tabletop has very similar lines as the dash in the car. The round dials and oval mirror are also nice historic touches.
The crease down the middle of the car with the split front and rear windows is straight out of the 30's too, in fact it's right off the 1938 Type 57sc:
The only thing I'm not wild about is the octo-exhaust, but maybe they'll change it by the time it makes it to production.
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Best headlights of all time:
It looks better in black than it did in the silver/blue:
This is one of the sexiest cars designed since WWII, IMO.
The sad thing is, I could win the lotto tomorrow and still not have the bankroll to fund one of them. Maybe a Powerball winner could pull it off, but you'd need $100M+ to justify owning one, and I think it's cooler for that reason.
It looks better in black than it did in the silver/blue:
This is one of the sexiest cars designed since WWII, IMO.
The sad thing is, I could win the lotto tomorrow and still not have the bankroll to fund one of them. Maybe a Powerball winner could pull it off, but you'd need $100M+ to justify owning one, and I think it's cooler for that reason.
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It does look much better in black. In any case I think it looks better than the Panamera. Something weren't horribly wrong when the rear of the Panamera was being designed.