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Honestly, the E60 design grew on me a bit during its time. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s aged well.
Much of the angst over the X7 reminds me of when the E53 debuted to the public. But it wasn’t long before it actually caught on. I suspect the X7 will do likewise. But, please perish the thought of an X8. Though I don’t foresee it coming, the brand would officially jump the shark with a thing like that.
Honestly, the E60 design grew on me a bit during its time. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s aged well.
Much of the angst over the X7 reminds me of when the E53 debuted to the public. But it wasn’t long before it actually caught on. I suspect the X7 will do likewise. But, please perish the thought of an X8. Though I don’t foresee it coming, the brand would officially jump the shark with a thing like that.
The only surprise BMW could throw at me is if they reduce the # of models... so yah basically anything is possible with BMW... now they have a 8 series.... i am 50/50 on the X8.
I loved the E60 the day I saw it. I think that was such a beautiful car that was way ahead of it's time. When you see one on the road it doesn't look like a 14 year old design.
The E65 I think is pretty cool looking too, but I don't love it. That cars biggest problem was it might be the most unreliable BMW ever.
For me it was the Bangle-era designs that got me interested in BMW. Prior to that, I found the designs to be relatively bland. Since then, I've grown to appreciate the older designs more, but I'm still partial to the Bangle-era and later designs. Of course, I used to own an E60 M5, so take that for what it's worth.
I think you are probably the only person in the past 10 years that have said they loved the 5 and 7 design from that era
Dont get me wrong, i love E60 M5... but not because it looks good.
I actually also really liked the bangle ers BMW'S. Like a lot! I also appreciate that that era has allowed BMW to move in a drastically different design direction with more smooth lines.
Had my wife's car getting serviced the other day and got to check out the new X5...damn that thing is NICE. I really like the interior design and feel. Except that stupid crystal shifter...that thing is so gaudy.
Also sat in the x3M40i...love it. A M5 Competition...I get why my friend has issues with the back seat. Once you're in its fine. But the shortened doors the seat cushions sticking out and then sloping back mean there is almost no room for a kid to get in or out with car seats installed. i3...Quirky but decent for a daily beater. 650 Gran Coupe...interior feels dated, didn't like the seating position. Cant get it high enough to clear the hood.
650 Gran Coupe...interior feels dated, didn't like the seating position. Cant get it high enough to clear the hood.
It does have a long hood, you have to get used to sensing where the front end is or do as I do and turn on the front cameras. As for the dated interior, I don't understand that at all. I think the interior is beautiful and my riders always compliment the stitching and the roof liner.
It does have a long hood, you have to get used to sensing where the front end is or do as I do and turn on the front cameras. As for the dated interior, I don't understand that at all. I think the interior is beautiful and my riders always compliment the stitching and the roof liner.
I didn't say I disliked the interior but after sitting the new models it definitely feels dated.
Have you driven the new X3? you should go try it when you go pick up your car.
I am driving the X3 loaner today.... i am very very impressed inside and out. Even with the 4 cylinder engine, the car feels lights.... What is weird is, it feels like a better driving car and faster car than the 330 non Sport loaner i got last time.
Have you driven the new X3? you should go try it when you go pick up your car.
I am driving the X3 loaner today.... i am very very impressed inside and out. Even with the 4 cylinder engine, the car feels lights.... What is weird is, it feels like a better driving car and faster car than the 330 non Sport loaner i got last time.
havent yet...almost afraid too. I'm going back east in a few weeks and I'll get to drive my friends M5...and maybe his x3m40i.
Have a year an some change on my wife's lease...I would love a lower payment next time around...so no idea what I'll do, try and make a similar deal on a newer demo X3...or maybe look at buying at a similar used X3/X4 or maybe similar year X5 if the price is right. They seem to be pretty solid as far as reliability goes. But I have time.
Yah i have seen on BMW's CPO website that some of the low mileage (10k or less) CPO 2018 X3M40i are at mid 40 to high 40s.... original MSRP $60k+
Basically you are getting a car that is 1 level above at RDX Aspec price.
If i were in the market for a good sized SUV, That is the one i would get... It is almost a steal...
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Yah i have seen on BMW's CPO website that some of the low mileage (10k or less) CPO 2018 X3M40i are at mid 40 to high 40s.... original MSRP $60k+
Basically you are getting a car that is 1 level above at RDX Aspec price.
If i were in the market for a good sized SUV, That is the one i would get... It is almost a steal...
Yeah we'll see. I cant afford to buy another $40k car right now. I still have 2 years left on my Durango...and since I'm financing it at 0% there is NO incentive to pay it off early. So it'll be continue leasing for another go round or find something nice and used around $20-25k.
Ic.... if your wife is used to BMW, i am not sure if she is willing to change
just FYI.... you can get 10% off on your excess mileage if you have any.. all you need to do is call BMW NA and say i want a discount and they will give you 10% off, no question asked.
Ic.... if your wife is used to BMW, i am not sure if she is willing to change
just FYI.... you can get 10% off on your excess mileage if you have any.. all you need to do is call BMW NA and say i want a discount and they will give you 10% off, no question asked.
Thats good to know, but we won't have excess, we'll be under. Leased the car with 5k on it on Feb 17...12k a year, car only has 18k on it now. Funny thing is I wanted 12k a year because all her other leases were 10k and the Jeep was going to go over (I leased the Bimmer early and turned the jeep in early so we didnt) and NOW we look like we're going to come in WAY under. could have saved $18 a month!
She likes the bmw...what she really likes is the iDrive. She still lingers over how she LOVED the Highlander (BARF!!!)
with the way they depreciate... who knows... in 2 years, you should be able to pick up a 2018 X3 for cheap... She will not pick highlander over a BMW .... she just wont
If she likes her current idrive then you must not let her touch the new ones.... i didn't know it could be that much better... but the new one is MUCH better...
I can't wait to play around with the NEW NEW one (7.0) from the X5 and X7... it seems it is different than the newly updated from X3.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 10-26-2018 at 04:11 PM.
Hell, I like the iDrive, a lot...and I really like my Uconnect system. but there are certain things where having touch is better...and I know the new systems are both as I played with it in the X5...only thing I didnt play with was the gestures.
The 2018 Los Angeles Auto Show marks the North American debut for BMW’s new flagship SUV. Technically, the X7 actually started in the States – built at BMW’s massive manufacturing facility in Spartanburg, South Carolina. In essence, then, this year’s LA gala isn’t so much a debut as it is a homecoming. And with SUV sales in America hitting a fever pitch, the big Bimmer could well be a hit among luxury buyers.
At a glance, it seems to have all the ingredients to be a success. Shoppers in North America will have two models to choose from, starting with the X7 xDrive40i. This “entry level” X7 dishes up a turbocharged inline six making 335 horsepower (250 kilowatts) and 330 pound-feet (447 Newton-meters) of twist. That’s enough to send the beefy SUV to 60 mph in 5.8 seconds, but if you want more power there’s the X7 xDrive50i that packs a 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8. Power shoots up to 458 hp (340 kW) and 479 lb-ft (649 Nm) of twist, while the 0-60 time drops to 5.2 seconds.
Regardless of the engine, the X7 dishes out power to all four wheels through an eight-speed automatic. The 50i can compliment that with a locking rear diff as well as separate Dynamic Handling and Off-Road Packages, depending on if you prefer to have fun on pavement or in the dirt. Three-row seating is of course standard as well, with the capability of transporting either six or seven passengers in luxurious accommodations that include the latest tech, not to mention a swell outside view thanks to a three-panel panoramic glass roof.
Such amenities don’t come cheap, however. The base 40i starts at $73,900 with the V8-powered 50i starting at $92,600. Still, the enduring success of the Cadillac Escalade proves there’s a strong market for high-end, high-dollar SUVs in America. And now that the X7 has landed in LA, buyers can get an up-close look at what that money will buy.
Visitors to the 2019 BMW Motorrad Days can expect to see, in addition to many bike highlights, a true one-off - the BMW X7 Pick-up. A unique conversion performed by BMW Group vocational trainees in cooperation with the Concept Vehicle Construction and Model Technology divisions at the BMW Munich plant. The vehicle is based on the BMW X7, the most luxurious and latest member of the BMW X family. The one-off combines the drive technology of the 250 kW/340 hp BMW X7 xDrive40i with the innovative vehicle concept of a five-seater luxury pick-up.
A handcrafted loading area boasting a sophisticated fine-polished wood finish, a height-adjustable two-level air suspension and numerous high-class equipment details make this BMW X7 Pick-up an ideal companion for the diverse day-to-day uses and more. A BMW F 850 GS - a powerful motorcycle from the adventure segment - on the loading area completes the conversion. Together they are able to reach even the remotest corners of the world.
"I am pleased about the synergies between BMW Group Vocational Training, Concept Vehicle Construction and Model Technology, allowing these young talents to prove their abilities with such an extraordinary project," concludes Milagros Caiña-Andree, Member of the Board for Human Resources of the BMW AG.
High-class materials and state-of-the-art production methods meet craftsmanship
Behind the passenger cabin providing five persons with a luxury ambience, the BMW X7 Pick-up offers a generous loading area. The length of the loading space varies from 140 cm (closed) to 200 cm (open). Thanks to the intelligent use of CFRP on roof components, rear doors and the rear lid, it was possible to further reduce weight by 200 kg vs. the production model, despite a 10 cm longer body. In interplay with the high-quality, handcrafted teakwood cladding of the loading area upgrade and the parapet elements, handgrips and trim strips made from SLS 3D pressure parts, it becomes clear just how much innovative strength, competence and technical precision the trainees already display. The combination of honey-coloured teakwood and the BMW Individual colour Tanzanite Blue metallic - an exclusive navy blue finish that develops extra depth when exposed to sunlight - was inspired by yachting sports and creates a sophisticated look.
From a concept to a vehicle in show car quality in just ten months
In just ten months, the twelve trainees from the occupational sectors body and vehicle mechanics, vehicle mechatronics and technical model construction turned a concept into a fully functional, road-legal automobile in show car quality. In keeping with the BMW brand's sustainability strategy, a vehicle returned from testing formed the cost-efficient basis of the concept, which the trainees consequently saved from being scrapped. The trainees were free to decide on conception and implementation, but had to forgo the additional expert assistance normally provided in concept car construction. The coherent final result gives the trainees even more reason to be proud of their practical training project. Their dream: to go for a spin in the BMW X7 Pick-up after its premiere or even take it for a trip to the mountains.
The BMW X7 Pick-up and the BMW F 850 GS - unbeatable as a duo
On the loading area of the converted vehicle stands a BMW F 850 GS, which is ideally suited to the BMW Motorrad Days. With a combination of touring and long-distance capability, sporty dynamics and supreme off-road qualities, the BMW F 850 GS perfectly complements the qualities of the BMW X7 Pick-up. However, in everyday life, the BMW X7 pick-up and the BMW F 850 GS are faithful companions: thanks to their excellent driving characteristics both on paved and unpaved roads, the journey is the destination.
The BMW X7 Pick-up is a one-off from BMW Group Vocational Training at the Munich location. Series implementation is not planned. Special projects such as this serve during training to convey and deploy the required capabilities in practice. Clear training contents with an occupational interest in each profession exist in such projects. The BMW Group currently trains almost 5,000 persons in nine countries worldwide.
10-18-2018, 05:40 PM
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