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Old 07-18-2010, 12:39 AM
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I've never really been a fan of the X3, it just looks like a 30% shrink of a X5 gone wrong... I guess I can't really complain though, I'm sure they're a lot of fun to drive.
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looks better. still not a fan of the looks.
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Being built at the Spartanburg plant
Again, what's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? It has produced several successful models such as the Z3, Z4, and the X5... I might be biased since that's my hometown, but I really don't see your point?
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Again, what's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? It has produced several successful models such as the Z3, Z4, and the X5... I might be biased since that's my hometown, but I really don't see your point?
I think the general opinion would be that a car assembled in America wouldn't be as reliable if it was assembled by Germans/Austrians, workmanship is much better from Germans in my opinion.
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I think the general opinion would be that a car assembled in America wouldn't be as reliable if it was assembled by Germans/Austrians, workmanship is much better from Germans in my opinion.
many would be quick to agree. but thats a real blanket statement. the german work federation was over 100 years ago. youd really have to do a side by side comparison of BMWs operations at domestic and international plants to get a true understanding. last i heard, the spartanburg plant is top notch. its not like an outsourced plant in mexico city where VW builds there low-end models.

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Again, what's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? It has produced several successful models such as the Z3, Z4, and the X5... I might be biased since that's my hometown, but I really don't see your point?
There isn't one. I've seen the documentaries of the Spartanburg BMW Plant, the Audi plant in Germany that builds the R8, and the Corvette Plant that builds the Z06 and the Spartanburg plant was slightly behind the R8 plant in terms of Germanic anality for cleanliness and efficiency.

The Corvette plant was full of bubbas in jean shorts but in the Spartanburg plant everyone wore clean suits. There's a very distinctive culture at the BMW plant in SC that follows how BMW runs things in Germany. And it appears that everyone in SC gladly goes along with it.

So saying there's anything less efficient or professional about the BMW plant in Spartanburg is pretty ludicrous. I'd be surprised if he had ever actually watched a car get built there.
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What did I say, they put this black cladding on just so they could charge people to take it off.
I always assumed that non-painted stuff was for cosmetic reasons to avoid rock chipped paint etc from driving off-road or on bad roads. You see it on audi's and lots of suv's. I also assumed that the sport or other versions were for the ppl who buy off-road capable vehicles but never plan to ever take it off the road.

It could be just for cost/profit reasons tho what do I know.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:41 AM
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There isn't one. I've seen the documentaries of the Spartanburg BMW Plant, the Audi plant in Germany that builds the R8, and the Corvette Plant that builds the Z06 and the Spartanburg plant was slightly behind the R8 plant in terms of Germanic anality for cleanliness and efficiency.

The Corvette plant was full of bubbas in jean shorts but in the Spartanburg plant everyone wore clean suits. There's a very distinctive culture at the BMW plant in SC that follows how BMW runs things in Germany. And it appears that everyone in SC gladly goes along with it.

So saying there's anything less efficient or professional about the BMW plant in Spartanburg is pretty ludicrous. I'd be surprised if he had ever actually watched a car get built there.
I wholeheartedly agree. My father worked at the BMW plant in Spartanburg when the plant was first built till about 5 years ago. I've been throughout the plant to several areas and have never witnessed such professionalism at another automobile manufacturing facility.
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Again, what's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? It has produced several successful models such as the Z3, Z4, and the X5... I might be biased since that's my hometown, but I really don't see your point?
My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor for BMW, has stated that the X3 is the least problematic BMW he has seen. I attribute that to its production in Austria. Strictly my opinion...

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What made the original X3 one of BMW's most reliable vehicles was that it was built in a plant in Austria. We have one in the family and it is solid! My gf's E46 is

My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor at a BMW dealership, also says it (was) BMW's most reliable car.

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Old 07-26-2010, 10:31 AM
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My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor for BMW, has stated that the X3 is the least problematic BMW he has seen. I attribute that to its production in Austria. Strictly my opinion...
sounds like a big assumption to assume that from such a small perspective. That will lead to making alot of false assumptions in life i would assume.
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sounds like a big assumption to assume that from such a small perspective. That will lead to making alot of false assumptions in life i would assume.
I knew I would get one of these replies. I happen to have one in the family, and yes, it has been problem-free (2005 MY).

This is a flipping thread about the car and some people get so bent out of shape on it...

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wow, it looks soo much better than the current gen
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Originally Posted by brian6speed View Post
I always assumed that non-painted stuff was for cosmetic reasons to avoid rock chipped paint etc from driving off-road or on bad roads. You see it on audi's and lots of suv's. I also assumed that the sport or other versions were for the ppl who buy off-road capable vehicles but never plan to ever take it off the road.

It could be just for cost/profit reasons tho what do I know.
That's a good point. On the other hand, in the past they've taken off the cladding in mid cylcle refreshes, and not just for the sport packages. Often the sport packages cost extra in the first model years, but then are offered standard as the car ages. So you could be right, but the profit motive is certainly there.
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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-options.html
BMW is planning a big sales push for the redesigned 2012 BMW X3. If all things go right with our crazy, mixed-up economy, the automaker is hoping to move 25,000 X3s in the United States during the 2011 calendar year, Tom Kowaleski, director of communications for BMW USA, told Inside Line. The redesigned crossover hits U.S. dealers late this year. That's a huge jump from the current pace (3,439 X3s were sold in the first half of 2010), but not such a leap from past years -- BMW sold us 17,622 X3s in 2008. And the company is on pace to sell well over 30,000 units of the larger X5 in the U.S. in 2010. BMW figures the increased size of the second-generation X3 will be a significant draw for U.S. buyers. Yeah, yeah, bigger isn't always the way to go anymore, but the interior volume of the 2012 X3 is evidently right on par with the first-gen X5, and you know how much we all liked that vehicle. Likely you've heard that BMW will use the X3 to launch its build-to-order program in the U.S. Mind you, you can already special-order just about any vehicle you want, but most Americans don't; they just buy something out of dealer inventory. Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders. As further encouragement, Kowaleski says BMW will exclusive options for built-to-order X3s -- special paint and trim options that you won't be able to get if you buy one off a dealer lot. One particularly nice (read: lucrative) side effect that BMW anticipates from the build-to-order program is that consumers will spend more liberally on options in order to get their X3 just so.
Thats a lot of X1s... depending on lease numbers i might be looking into it.
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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-options.html Thats a lot of X1s... depending on lease numbers i might be looking into it.
If you get a X3, you definitely have to go back to Crazy Sellout
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Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders.


If every dealer/maker could promise that and deliver, dealers could wipe out 3/4 of their inventory.
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If all things go right with our crazy, mixed-up economy, the automaker is hoping to move 25,000 X3s in the United States during the 2011 calendar year, Tom Kowaleski, director of communications for BMW USA, told Inside Line. The redesigned crossover hits U.S. dealers late this year. That's a huge jump from the current pace (3,439 X3s were sold in the first half of 2010), but not such a leap from past years -- BMW sold us 17,622 X3s in 2008.
I think they're way too optimistic - unless they cut the price way down. And at the same time that'll kill X5 sales.
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Depending on where the numbers are, this car will most likely be the replacement for my wife's RDX when the lease is up June 2011
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Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders.
Uhh - No. It will take more like 3-4 weeks, which is exactly the same time is takes to order an X5 from Spartanburg. It spends 7-12 days just being an order on a piece of paper. But once it goes into production, it's relatively quick. Then to get it to the port to where the dealer is located. The fastest I have ever gotten an X5 ordered for someone was 3 weeks. I seriously doubt a 1 week turnaround is possible. The X5 has been there for years and it was never possible on that car, how could they expect it to happen on the X3? And dealers can't get enough X5's these days either....

And for what it's worth, I was at the factory down in Spartanburg, it definitely is quite the experience.
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Uhh - No. It will take more like 3-4 weeks, which is exactly the same time is takes to order an X5 from Spartanburg. It spends 7-12 days just being an order on a piece of paper. But once it goes into production, it's relatively quick. Then to get it to the port to where the dealer is located. The fastest I have ever gotten an X5 ordered for someone was 3 weeks. I seriously doubt a 1 week turnaround is possible. The X5 has been there for years and it was never possible on that car, how could they expect it to happen on the X3? And dealers can't get enough X5's these days either....

And for what it's worth, I was at the factory down in Spartanburg, it definitely is quite the experience.
But if you are flexible at all, the dealer should be able to find you an unallocated car that's either in production or just left the factory. When I was looking at 335is, the dealer was able to find a new one in almost the exact specs I wanted that just arrived at port in the US. All they had to do was redirect that car to my dealer and it would arrive in 3 days.
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^ Right but thats not considered a custom order.

Maybe when they say 1 week turnaround they just mean 1 week turnaround for production, start to finish and ready to put on a truck.
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^ Right but thats not considered a custom order.

Maybe when they say 1 week turnaround they just mean 1 week turnaround for production, start to finish and ready to put on a truck.
I'll tell you this much, I placed an order on July 12th for a 335 convertible for a customer, my BMW rep just called and told me it just came in...5 weeks from Germany...Crazy!
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I'll tell you this much, I placed an order on July 12th for a 335 convertible for a customer, my BMW rep just called and told me it just came in...5 weeks from Germany...Crazy!
Wow thats pretty damn good.

My car took about 30 days to make it to my dealer once it shipped from Germany. We need faster boats.
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looks much better than the current one.
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2015 Model Year X3

Pricing:
  • New X3 xDrive28d model (AWD) - $42,825 ($925 D&H included)
  • New X3 sDrive28i model (RWD) - $39,325 ($925 D&H included)
  • X3 xDrive28i model (AWD) - $40,725 ($925 D&H included)
  • X3 xDrive35i model (AWD) - $45,825 ($925 D&H included)

X3 xDrive28d Specs:
  • 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo diesel 4-cylinder engine
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  • 8-speed automatic transmission.
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  • ncludes Selective Catalyst Reduction to make the new X3 a clean diesel

X3 sDrive28i Specs:
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  • 0-60 mph in 6.2 seconds

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I've got 2 BMW's and wouldn't buy this, I'd get the Macan S instead.
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it doesn't look too bad. I would drive one, but would I buy one, probably not.
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Has this thing actually improved or is it still the tall wagon that's not really good off-road or on it?
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I like the older one better.
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Nice to see a diesel option!
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I've got 2 BMW's and wouldn't buy this, I'd get the Macan S instead.
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They shouldn't have ran the headlights into the grille. I like the details, but overall, I don't like it, just as I didn't like it pre-makeover either.
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WOW! The 2015 facelift looks great! It makes the X3 look even more premium now. It's the small details that really count - BMW clearly has some great designers working on these small details which make the vehicle just look great. Unfortunately, the Japanese car makers can't seem to be able to be in the same league in terms of these design details.
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the details matter.

Just noticed the bisected foglights. What purpose does that serve?
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the details matter.

Just noticed the bisected foglights. What purpose does that serve?

The fog lights are now LED.


Here is the Msport version on the left that has LED headlights as well.

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The diesel is a scam. Sold as 20d in other markets, they just increased the number to make you pay more.

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The diesel is a scam. Sold as 20d in other markets, they just increased the number to make you pay more.

http://www.autoevolution.com/bmw-blo...son-64341.html


you are right and wrong.

But no one knows the reason why you are wrong. LOL
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