BMW: X3 News
#204
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I think the general opinion would be that a car assembled in America wouldn't be as reliable if it was assembled by Germans/Austrians, workmanship is much better from Germans in my opinion.
#205
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many would be quick to agree. but thats a real blanket statement. the german work federation was over 100 years ago. youd really have to do a side by side comparison of BMWs operations at domestic and international plants to get a true understanding. last i heard, the spartanburg plant is top notch. its not like an outsourced plant in mexico city where VW builds there low-end models.
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#206
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The Corvette plant was full of bubbas in jean shorts but in the Spartanburg plant everyone wore clean suits. There's a very distinctive culture at the BMW plant in SC that follows how BMW runs things in Germany. And it appears that everyone in SC gladly goes along with it.
So saying there's anything less efficient or professional about the BMW plant in Spartanburg is pretty ludicrous. I'd be surprised if he had ever actually watched a car get built there.
#207
It could be just for cost/profit reasons tho what do I know.
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There isn't one. I've seen the documentaries of the Spartanburg BMW Plant, the Audi plant in Germany that builds the R8, and the Corvette Plant that builds the Z06 and the Spartanburg plant was slightly behind the R8 plant in terms of Germanic anality for cleanliness and efficiency.
The Corvette plant was full of bubbas in jean shorts but in the Spartanburg plant everyone wore clean suits. There's a very distinctive culture at the BMW plant in SC that follows how BMW runs things in Germany. And it appears that everyone in SC gladly goes along with it.
So saying there's anything less efficient or professional about the BMW plant in Spartanburg is pretty ludicrous. I'd be surprised if he had ever actually watched a car get built there.
The Corvette plant was full of bubbas in jean shorts but in the Spartanburg plant everyone wore clean suits. There's a very distinctive culture at the BMW plant in SC that follows how BMW runs things in Germany. And it appears that everyone in SC gladly goes along with it.
So saying there's anything less efficient or professional about the BMW plant in Spartanburg is pretty ludicrous. I'd be surprised if he had ever actually watched a car get built there.
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What made the original X3 one of BMW's most reliable vehicles was that it was built in a plant in Austria. We have one in the family and it is solid! My gf's E46 is
My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor at a BMW dealership, also says it (was) BMW's most reliable car.
My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor at a BMW dealership, also says it (was) BMW's most reliable car.
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#210
sounds like a big assumption to assume that from such a small perspective. That will lead to making alot of false assumptions in life i would assume.
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This is a flipping thread about the car and some people get so bent out of shape on it...
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#213
I'm the Firestarter
I always assumed that non-painted stuff was for cosmetic reasons to avoid rock chipped paint etc from driving off-road or on bad roads. You see it on audi's and lots of suv's. I also assumed that the sport or other versions were for the ppl who buy off-road capable vehicles but never plan to ever take it off the road.
It could be just for cost/profit reasons tho what do I know.
It could be just for cost/profit reasons tho what do I know.
#214
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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-options.html
Thats a lot of X1s... depending on lease numbers i might be looking into it.
BMW is planning a big sales push for the redesigned 2012 BMW X3. If all things go right with our crazy, mixed-up economy, the automaker is hoping to move 25,000 X3s in the United States during the 2011 calendar year, Tom Kowaleski, director of communications for BMW USA, told Inside Line. The redesigned crossover hits U.S. dealers late this year. That's a huge jump from the current pace (3,439 X3s were sold in the first half of 2010), but not such a leap from past years -- BMW sold us 17,622 X3s in 2008. And the company is on pace to sell well over 30,000 units of the larger X5 in the U.S. in 2010. BMW figures the increased size of the second-generation X3 will be a significant draw for U.S. buyers. Yeah, yeah, bigger isn't always the way to go anymore, but the interior volume of the 2012 X3 is evidently right on par with the first-gen X5, and you know how much we all liked that vehicle. Likely you've heard that BMW will use the X3 to launch its build-to-order program in the U.S. Mind you, you can already special-order just about any vehicle you want, but most Americans don't; they just buy something out of dealer inventory. Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders. As further encouragement, Kowaleski says BMW will exclusive options for built-to-order X3s -- special paint and trim options that you won't be able to get if you buy one off a dealer lot. One particularly nice (read: lucrative) side effect that BMW anticipates from the build-to-order program is that consumers will spend more liberally on options in order to get their X3 just so.
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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...r-options.html Thats a lot of X1s... depending on lease numbers i might be looking into it.
#216
Race Director
Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders.
If every dealer/maker could promise that and deliver, dealers could wipe out 3/4 of their inventory.
#217
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If all things go right with our crazy, mixed-up economy, the automaker is hoping to move 25,000 X3s in the United States during the 2011 calendar year, Tom Kowaleski, director of communications for BMW USA, told Inside Line. The redesigned crossover hits U.S. dealers late this year. That's a huge jump from the current pace (3,439 X3s were sold in the first half of 2010), but not such a leap from past years -- BMW sold us 17,622 X3s in 2008.
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Since the X3 will be built in Spartanburg, South Carolina, BMW can promise a 1-week turnaround on orders.
And for what it's worth, I was at the factory down in Spartanburg, it definitely is quite the experience.
#220
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Uhh - No. It will take more like 3-4 weeks, which is exactly the same time is takes to order an X5 from Spartanburg. It spends 7-12 days just being an order on a piece of paper. But once it goes into production, it's relatively quick. Then to get it to the port to where the dealer is located. The fastest I have ever gotten an X5 ordered for someone was 3 weeks. I seriously doubt a 1 week turnaround is possible. The X5 has been there for years and it was never possible on that car, how could they expect it to happen on the X3? And dealers can't get enough X5's these days either....
And for what it's worth, I was at the factory down in Spartanburg, it definitely is quite the experience.
And for what it's worth, I was at the factory down in Spartanburg, it definitely is quite the experience.
#221
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^ Right but thats not considered a custom order.
Maybe when they say 1 week turnaround they just mean 1 week turnaround for production, start to finish and ready to put on a truck.
Maybe when they say 1 week turnaround they just mean 1 week turnaround for production, start to finish and ready to put on a truck.
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#226
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2015 Model Year X3
Pricing:
X3 xDrive28d Specs:
X3 sDrive28i Specs:
X3 xDrive35i Specs:
Refreshed Styling:
New Tech:
xLine:
M Sport:
Pricing:
- New X3 xDrive28d model (AWD) - $42,825 ($925 D&H included)
- New X3 sDrive28i model (RWD) - $39,325 ($925 D&H included)
- X3 xDrive28i model (AWD) - $40,725 ($925 D&H included)
- X3 xDrive35i model (AWD) - $45,825 ($925 D&H included)
X3 xDrive28d Specs:
- 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo diesel 4-cylinder engine
- 180 horsepower
- 280 lb-ft of torque (from 1,750 rpm)
- 8-speed automatic transmission.
- 0-60 mph in just under eight seconds
- ncludes Selective Catalyst Reduction to make the new X3 a clean diesel
X3 sDrive28i Specs:
- 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo gasoline engine
- 240 horsepower
- 260 lb-ft of torque
- 0-60 mph in 6.2 seconds
X3 xDrive35i Specs:
- 3.0- liter six-cylinder in-line engine
- 300hp
- 300 lb-ft, between 1,200 rpm and 5,000 rpm
Refreshed Styling:
- New modified twin-circular headlights (LED headlights are optional)
- More eye-catching kidney grille with new surround
- New front and rear bumpers
- Exterior mirrors with integrated LED turn signal indicators
- LED front fog lights
- Four new exterior paint colors
- Four newly styled light-alloy wheels
New Tech:
- 6.5" Navigation Screen with iDrive controller with touchpad
- Parking Assistant
- Full-color BMW Head-Up Display
- Active Driving Assistant with ACC Stop & Go, including Lane Departure Warning, Frontal Collision Warning, Pedestrian Warning, and City Collision Mitigation
xLine:
- Metallic inserts in bumpers
- Satin aluminum side cladding and bars in air inatkes
- Simulated under guards at front and rear
- Additional leather upholstery variants, trims strips and 19" alloy wheels options
M Sport:
- M aerodynamic package
- High-gloss Shadow Line trim
- Six paint finishes
- Two exclusive light-alloy wheel options in 19 and 20-inch format
- Anthracite roof liner and sports seats in various leather upholstery variants
- Eight-speed sport automatic transmission
- Sport steering and suspension settings
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I've got 2 BMW's and wouldn't buy this, I'd get the Macan S instead.
#232
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I like the older one better.
#233
The sizzle in the Steak
Nice to see a diesel option!
#235
They shouldn't have ran the headlights into the grille. I like the details, but overall, I don't like it, just as I didn't like it pre-makeover either.
#236
Drifting
WOW! The 2015 facelift looks great! It makes the X3 look even more premium now. It's the small details that really count - BMW clearly has some great designers working on these small details which make the vehicle just look great. Unfortunately, the Japanese car makers can't seem to be able to be in the same league in terms of these design details.
#237
the details matter.
Just noticed the bisected foglights. What purpose does that serve?
Just noticed the bisected foglights. What purpose does that serve?
#239
The diesel is a scam. Sold as 20d in other markets, they just increased the number to make you pay more.
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#240
Team Owner
http://www.autoevolution.com/bmw-blo...son-64341.html
you are right and wrong.
But no one knows the reason why you are wrong. LOL