BMW: Development and Technology News
09-14-2008, 06:23 PM
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well, turbo for sure, but given the twin turbo technology available across the board at BMW for the inline6, V8, the 123d twin turbo diesel, and the 1.6L I4 in the MINI, it's natural to assume that it will come to the gasoline I4. One turbo just can't eliminate all that lag.
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/09/10...ment/#more-646
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/09/10...ment/#more-646
The MINI Cooper S's engine is not twin turboed.
09-15-2008, 04:13 AM
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Oh, the horor - a BMW with cloth seats.
09-15-2008, 07:55 AM
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They will also have the argument of less mpg. Although when you annualize the savings, they will be dismal. Btw, I love good cloth seats by BMW. In some cases I prefer them to leather. Other German manufacturers have really high quality cloth seats. It's very stereotypical in America. If it's leather it's better and it deserves a premium price.
09-15-2008, 08:15 AM
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They will also have the argument of less mpg. Although when you annualize the savings, they will be dismal. Btw, I love good cloth seats by BMW. In some cases I prefer them to leather. Other German manufacturers have really high quality cloth seats. It's very stereotypical in America. If it's leather it's better and it deserves a premium price.
09-15-2008, 11:32 AM
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09-15-2008, 05:20 PM
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For Acura I think we will see the same tech we saw in the RDX's engine follow in for other offerings. I am not expecting any big news.
What I am wondering about is Mercedes' turbo tech coming up soon.
09-20-2008, 09:55 AM
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Yeah twin scroll turbos have been used for a few years now. The turbo in the RDX is equipped with a TS turbo if I remember correctly.
For Acura I think we will see the same tech we saw in the RDX's engine follow in for other offerings. I am not expecting any big news.
What I am wondering about is Mercedes' turbo tech coming up soon.
For Acura I think we will see the same tech we saw in the RDX's engine follow in for other offerings. I am not expecting any big news.
What I am wondering about is Mercedes' turbo tech coming up soon.
09-20-2008, 12:51 PM
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^ Dude, no offense but do you work for Mercedes or something? How can you be so sure? That's pretty bold.
09-21-2008, 10:43 AM
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about Benz: I heard on some car show some rumor Benz is gonna offer at least 1 turbo motor in every class. HOWEVER i don't see this before 2011 or 2012 model year. because they gotta redesign the motor by dropping compression. plus with the new E class dropping in 2010 i promise you about all the Benz engineers are putting finishing touches on it.
Yes MB will offer turbo engines on all offerings by 2012
09-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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^ ooh. gotcha. good thing I said it with "no offense" 
09-21-2008, 02:49 PM
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its outrageous that the 1 series doesnt have an I4. they wonder why it isnt selling well due to high pricing :sigh:
personally, i wouldnt spend the extra $$ to get BMW performance and have the smallest engine option. but hey, bring the I4, the more the merrier. should absolutely improve overall sales in North America. Only downfall i could think of is that it could bring down the general consesus that a luxury manufacturer would go as low as offering a 4 cylinder in their line-up.
personally, i wouldnt spend the extra $$ to get BMW performance and have the smallest engine option. but hey, bring the I4, the more the merrier. should absolutely improve overall sales in North America. Only downfall i could think of is that it could bring down the general consesus that a luxury manufacturer would go as low as offering a 4 cylinder in their line-up.
09-22-2008, 04:20 AM
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Look at the thread on the MB C class. A turbo diesel 4 is coming to a whole range of MB cars - some of which may make it to the US. BMW won't be too far behind.
I think everyone got the memo by now - mileage matters and the number of cyclinders doesn't.
I think everyone got the memo by now - mileage matters and the number of cyclinders doesn't.
09-22-2008, 06:52 AM
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Excatly fuck I wish euro specced cars where available in the US. Hell the XF turbo diesel 2.7 litre gets 37mpg. Why can't BMW make a 320D with 200hp and about 40mpg.
03-10-2009, 01:34 PM
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BMW: Future Models news
We've got some exciting news on the BMW front. Sources over at Germancarzone, say BMW is planning a GT version of the next-gen BMW 6 Series. They also claim BMW is working on a Z2, to be introduced later this year, a 3 Series Supersports, and a new MINI model.
Just a short while after the introduction of the BMW 5 Series GT, the German automaker looks to be in the concept development stage of a BMW GT 6. This concept would be based on the platform for the new 6 Series, expected to hit the market at the end of 2010. Look for it to have some design cues similar to the on-again-off-again BMW CS Concept, with suicide doors in back. The rear-hinged doors should make entering and exiting the car very easy for backseat passengers, while maintaining a flowing look thanks to the elimination of the B-pillar. If it goes to dealerships, a 6 Series GT would be a natural competitor to the Audi A7 Sportback, the Mercedes-Benz CLS, and the forthcoming Porsche Panamera.
Also interesting is the talk of a BMW Z2. Alleged to be near completion, the car could see the light of day at the Frankfurt Motor Show this September. If the Z2 goes into production soon, it would be the first time BMW has assembled two different Z Series roadsters concurrently.
Rumor also has it that BMW is putting together the BMW 335i Supersports. The SS level would bring the car almost to the level of the M3, with various performance upgrades. Some of these could include use of more lightweight materials, better suspension, bigger brakes, and possibly an additional engine choice.
Lastly, BMW may be looking to continue the expansion of their British brand MINI, with the development of the MINI SpaceBox. We are not sure what this could be. After all, the upcoming MINI Crossover is expected to be about four meters long, only five centimeters longer than the Clubman. Perhaps the SpaceBox is something akin to the Volkswagen Bus. A true "MINIvan," if you will.
We look forward to additional information on any of these models. As soon as we get new news we'll let you know.
03-11-2009, 10:25 PM
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BMW: Partnered with NASA to Develop Next Gen EfficientDynamics
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Only outer space is the limit for BMW it seems. The Bavarian automaker has begun working with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) on its next-generation EfficientDynamics fuel and eco-saving technologies.
Speaking to the UK's CAR Online magazine, head of development Klaus Draeger said the tie-up would result in a saving of up to 5% in economy which is a larger saving than current EfficientDynamics technologies combined. These currently include features like brake energy regeneration and stop-start. EfficientDynamics meets 2012 and 2015 EU regulations.
Basically how the NASA system works is that thermoelectric generators or TEGs similar in principle to those that power satellites convert heat differences between radioactive metals to generate electricity. BMW has fitted a TEG to a prototype's exhaust system to make about 200kW of power. What that means is that some of the heat which is generated by combustion is converted to electric energy. This energy is then fed into the car's power supply for systems like climate control which swallow up good heaps of power.
Prototype equipment is already being out to the test. Series production cars will have the necessary equipment fitted within the next five years. To make the systems work even better BMW is including a new 8-speed automatic gearbox to volume cars instead of the new 7-speed double-clutch gearbox.
Speaking to the UK's CAR Online magazine, head of development Klaus Draeger said the tie-up would result in a saving of up to 5% in economy which is a larger saving than current EfficientDynamics technologies combined. These currently include features like brake energy regeneration and stop-start. EfficientDynamics meets 2012 and 2015 EU regulations.
Basically how the NASA system works is that thermoelectric generators or TEGs similar in principle to those that power satellites convert heat differences between radioactive metals to generate electricity. BMW has fitted a TEG to a prototype's exhaust system to make about 200kW of power. What that means is that some of the heat which is generated by combustion is converted to electric energy. This energy is then fed into the car's power supply for systems like climate control which swallow up good heaps of power.
Prototype equipment is already being out to the test. Series production cars will have the necessary equipment fitted within the next five years. To make the systems work even better BMW is including a new 8-speed automatic gearbox to volume cars instead of the new 7-speed double-clutch gearbox.
03-12-2009, 12:03 PM
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Nice to see more MFG. getting on the converting spent heat to energy bandwagon.
03-16-2009, 10:28 PM
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05-25-2009, 01:33 AM
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BMW: ConnectedDrive news **To Steer Drivers Away from Bad Weather (page 1)**
Neat!
From Motor Authority: http://www.motorauthority.com/new-gp...d-weather.html
From Motor Authority: http://www.motorauthority.com/new-gp...d-weather.html
We've already heard of GPS systems that can help us dodge traffic jams and get home quicker, but what about a GPS system that can get you home drier? BMW is introducing just such a system, and for those choosing to use it the special GPS unit will help navigate them away from rain and hail and towards blue skies and sunshine.
Described as an on-board precipitation radar, BMW says the system will be useful for drivers with convertibles, as well as helping all drivers to avoid damage to their cars from hail. Featuring a graphic display, the system is updated every 15 minutes with weather information, showing drivers the geographic distribution of rain, snow and hail. The system shows this information for both the current location and the destination in real-time.
Additionally, BMW will be trying to get a leg up on its competitors' similar products with a new feature called Precipitation Pattern that’s planned for introduction in July and will allow users to see an animated representation of cloud movement from the previous 90 minutes.
The system is on offer in Germany at the moment, and will be compatible with any cars using BMW's ConnectedDrive, meaning it could be fairly easy to incorporate into American vehicles - whether or not BMW will offer this service in North America, however, remains uncertain but there shouldn't be too many hurdles in bringing it over.
Described as an on-board precipitation radar, BMW says the system will be useful for drivers with convertibles, as well as helping all drivers to avoid damage to their cars from hail. Featuring a graphic display, the system is updated every 15 minutes with weather information, showing drivers the geographic distribution of rain, snow and hail. The system shows this information for both the current location and the destination in real-time.
Additionally, BMW will be trying to get a leg up on its competitors' similar products with a new feature called Precipitation Pattern that’s planned for introduction in July and will allow users to see an animated representation of cloud movement from the previous 90 minutes.
The system is on offer in Germany at the moment, and will be compatible with any cars using BMW's ConnectedDrive, meaning it could be fairly easy to incorporate into American vehicles - whether or not BMW will offer this service in North America, however, remains uncertain but there shouldn't be too many hurdles in bringing it over.
05-25-2009, 07:32 AM
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As if the driver is not distracted enough already - I can't believe the strict Germans would even allow something like this in cars. I mean this is the same company that only begrudgingly added cup holders to its 5 series.
08-11-2010, 05:36 AM
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BMW 354 hp tri-turbo diesel engine scheduled for 2011
http://www.bmwcoop.com/2010/01/19/bm...uled-for-2011/
BMW will launch in 2011 at the Frankfurt Motor Show ,the new tri-turbo diesel engine, capable to develop 354 horsepower and 700 Nm, engine which is expected to equip X5 and X6 models. BMW is currently developing a new diesel engine, which is preparing to break existing patterns in terms of power and consumption. Bavarians want for some time, a tri-turbo unit capable to compete with V8 engines of the other German manufacturers.
It seems that the development process goes well and the premium manufacturer plans to launch the tri-turbo diesel in the autumn of next year at the Motor Show in Frankfurt. Currently we know about the new engine that would be a unit with 3.0 liter and six-cylinder.
Such a version three turbochargers would develop a total of 354 horsepower and an impressive torque: over 700 Nm. With this baggage of power, BMW will be able to withstand some V8 engines from Audi and Mercedes. Tri-turbo engine will be mated to an automatic gearbox with eight reports, developed by BMW together with specialists from ZF, currently found in Bavarians range on the new 5-Series GT.
There will be also the Efficient Dynamics technology, regenerative force brake and start-stop. First models to get under the hood the new six-cylinder unit will be BMW X5 and X6, following versions will be named “xDrive 45d”.
Source: Autoblog
BMW will launch in 2011 at the Frankfurt Motor Show ,the new tri-turbo diesel engine, capable to develop 354 horsepower and 700 Nm, engine which is expected to equip X5 and X6 models. BMW is currently developing a new diesel engine, which is preparing to break existing patterns in terms of power and consumption. Bavarians want for some time, a tri-turbo unit capable to compete with V8 engines of the other German manufacturers.
It seems that the development process goes well and the premium manufacturer plans to launch the tri-turbo diesel in the autumn of next year at the Motor Show in Frankfurt. Currently we know about the new engine that would be a unit with 3.0 liter and six-cylinder.
Such a version three turbochargers would develop a total of 354 horsepower and an impressive torque: over 700 Nm. With this baggage of power, BMW will be able to withstand some V8 engines from Audi and Mercedes. Tri-turbo engine will be mated to an automatic gearbox with eight reports, developed by BMW together with specialists from ZF, currently found in Bavarians range on the new 5-Series GT.
There will be also the Efficient Dynamics technology, regenerative force brake and start-stop. First models to get under the hood the new six-cylinder unit will be BMW X5 and X6, following versions will be named “xDrive 45d”.
Source: Autoblog
08-11-2010, 06:58 AM
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Nice. Now where is hondas Diesel 
08-11-2010, 07:52 AM
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^ 
it sounds silly
it sounds silly
08-11-2010, 07:53 AM
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Right, cause the current bi-turbo is not expensive and complex enough.
Is this the new marketing slogan - my engine has more turbos than your engine?
Is this the new marketing slogan - my engine has more turbos than your engine?
08-11-2010, 08:36 AM
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Then Bugatti still leads the pack on turbo count. But that 516 lb-ft sounds like it could rip up some asphalt with the right set of tires.
08-11-2010, 09:20 AM
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08-11-2010, 10:16 AM
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08-11-2010, 07:26 PM
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08-11-2010, 08:40 PM
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That exhaust header must have more cuves than a plate of spagetti. None the less it sounds like another great motor from BMW.
