BMW: 5-Series News
#1402
#1403
the 3 series is ugly.
the 7 series is beautiful.
the design of the new 5 series is something between them.
and the result is NOT good (great interior, ugly exterior).
comprende?
#1404
I comprehended from your first post.
I just don't understand.
Most people I know of like the 3 series, love the new 5, and hate the 7. If nothing else, just don't understand how anyone could think the new 5 is . But hey, each to his own....
#1405
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BMWUSA releases official pricing for the 2011 BMW 528i
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- Arrives July 2011
- $45,425 including $875 Destination & Handling ($1,400 lower than the 528i's 2010 predecessor)
- 3.0-liter inline-6 engine
- 240 horsepower
- 8-Speed automatic transmission
BMW has announced pricing for the all-new 2011 BMW 528i Sedan. The new 528i will arrive at BMW Centers in July and is priced from $45,425 including $875 Destination & Handling. Based on the all-new, 6th-generation BMW 5 Series, the new 528i receives BMW’s 3.0-liter inline-6 engine with magnesium-aluminum construction and 240 horsepower, plus BMW’s new 8-speed automatic transmission as standard equipment. Despite these enhancements, the base MSRP is $1,400 lower than the 528i’s 2010 predecessor.
As on any other BMW vehicle, BMW Ultimate Service, with $0 maintenance for the first 4 years or 50,000 miles, is included.
“When we announced the pricing for the 535i and 550i earlier this month, people were thrilled with what great value they represented,” said Jack Pitney, Vice-President of Marketing for BMW of North American. “With the 528i BMW is uniquely positioned to offer a full range of midsized luxury-performance Sedans that, true to the philosophy of EfficentDynamics, offer better performance and improved efficiency than their predecessors at prices that are even more competitive.”
The all-new 2011 BMW 5 Series combines a whole new look, inside and out, with new powertrain options and even more cutting-edge technology. Design features emblematic of BMW are to be found at the front with its kidney grille inclined slightly forward. The new 5 Series chassis is 55% stiffer than its already-impressive predecessor.
The new 528i is equipped with BMW’s celebrated 3.0-liter inline-6 engine, now enhanced to produce 240 horsepower and 230 lb-ft of torque. These figures represent improvements of 10 and 30, respectively, over the previous-generation 528i. As a result, the new 528i is expected to accomplish the 0-60mph sprint in 6.6 seconds (preliminary), compared to 7.1 seconds for the previous model. The normally aspirated engine is equipped with Valvetronic throttle-less intake technology and weighs approximately 355 lbs thanks to its exotic magnesium-aluminum engine block construction. EPA mileage estimates will be available closer to the July on-sale date.
In addition to the standard 8-speed automatic transmission, new 17-inch light alloy wheels with all-season run-flat tires are standard on the 528i, while the optional Sport Package includes 18-inch light alloy wheels with high-performance run-flat tires. Inside, drivers will find standard lumbar support and a larger standard moonroof.
Options and packages for the 528i are very similar to the 535i Sedan with a few exceptions. Xenon headlights will be a stand-alone option on the 528i. The Dynamic Handling Package will provide Driving Dynamics Control and Dynamic Damping Control, which is quick enough to adjust the damping at a rear wheel after a front wheel has encountered a road imperfection at highway speeds. Integral Active Steering is not offered on the 528i.
BMW EfficientDynamics technologies are featured where appropriate on the 528i, including Brake Energy Regeneration, Valvetronic, Electric Power Steering, and on-demand operation of engine accessory drives. Lightweight materials are used to balance the vehicle. Components such as doors, hood, front fenders, and suspension assemblies are made of aluminum.
The driver assistance systems offered with the new 5 Series include an all-new Parking Assistant, Top View cameras, and Frontal Collision Warning with application of the brakes when ordered with Active Cruise Control plus Stop & Go. Other driver assistance features available include Active Blind Spot Detection, Lane Departure Warning, a Head-Up Display, and BMW Night Vision with Pedestrian Detection.
The BMW 528i will join the 535i and 550i in BMW showrooms in the US in July.
As on any other BMW vehicle, BMW Ultimate Service, with $0 maintenance for the first 4 years or 50,000 miles, is included.
“When we announced the pricing for the 535i and 550i earlier this month, people were thrilled with what great value they represented,” said Jack Pitney, Vice-President of Marketing for BMW of North American. “With the 528i BMW is uniquely positioned to offer a full range of midsized luxury-performance Sedans that, true to the philosophy of EfficentDynamics, offer better performance and improved efficiency than their predecessors at prices that are even more competitive.”
The all-new 2011 BMW 5 Series combines a whole new look, inside and out, with new powertrain options and even more cutting-edge technology. Design features emblematic of BMW are to be found at the front with its kidney grille inclined slightly forward. The new 5 Series chassis is 55% stiffer than its already-impressive predecessor.
The new 528i is equipped with BMW’s celebrated 3.0-liter inline-6 engine, now enhanced to produce 240 horsepower and 230 lb-ft of torque. These figures represent improvements of 10 and 30, respectively, over the previous-generation 528i. As a result, the new 528i is expected to accomplish the 0-60mph sprint in 6.6 seconds (preliminary), compared to 7.1 seconds for the previous model. The normally aspirated engine is equipped with Valvetronic throttle-less intake technology and weighs approximately 355 lbs thanks to its exotic magnesium-aluminum engine block construction. EPA mileage estimates will be available closer to the July on-sale date.
In addition to the standard 8-speed automatic transmission, new 17-inch light alloy wheels with all-season run-flat tires are standard on the 528i, while the optional Sport Package includes 18-inch light alloy wheels with high-performance run-flat tires. Inside, drivers will find standard lumbar support and a larger standard moonroof.
Options and packages for the 528i are very similar to the 535i Sedan with a few exceptions. Xenon headlights will be a stand-alone option on the 528i. The Dynamic Handling Package will provide Driving Dynamics Control and Dynamic Damping Control, which is quick enough to adjust the damping at a rear wheel after a front wheel has encountered a road imperfection at highway speeds. Integral Active Steering is not offered on the 528i.
BMW EfficientDynamics technologies are featured where appropriate on the 528i, including Brake Energy Regeneration, Valvetronic, Electric Power Steering, and on-demand operation of engine accessory drives. Lightweight materials are used to balance the vehicle. Components such as doors, hood, front fenders, and suspension assemblies are made of aluminum.
The driver assistance systems offered with the new 5 Series include an all-new Parking Assistant, Top View cameras, and Frontal Collision Warning with application of the brakes when ordered with Active Cruise Control plus Stop & Go. Other driver assistance features available include Active Blind Spot Detection, Lane Departure Warning, a Head-Up Display, and BMW Night Vision with Pedestrian Detection.
The BMW 528i will join the 535i and 550i in BMW showrooms in the US in July.
#1407
I drive a Subata.
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lowered pricing point
luv it moar
luv it moar
#1408
Race Director
If the 535 can do 20/29, the mileage on the 528 should be at least 30 hwy. It will be interesting to see the sales war between this and the E class in the fall when both will be on sale.
#1409
0-60 in 6.6 seconds with only 240hp is pretty good. I think the RL is in the same ballbark or just a tick faster to 60 with 300hp
#1410
Safety Car
true. pricing to overlap the 3 series is a good thing. i think with all of the engine offerings of the 3, a lower price point for the 5 will tempt customers looking at high end 3 series to step up to a 5. does this cripple sales for the 3, maybe, but the 3 is so damn popular to begin with that BMW would be better off getting more redesigned 5s on the road as quickly as possible.
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#1411
It is possible that 528I will achieve 31 mpg moving under 70mph in 8th on its 17inch tires. FWD TL should achive similar.
$45k gives u just basic car without its dynamic handling abilities. If i have to customize it
$45K+navigation($2K)+($500 rear view camera)+($1500 upgraded music system to match ELS of TL)+(18inch+HID+heated seats+metallic paint) subtact $1500k 4year maintainance.
It is $50K loaded car for 528I. ur still at 240bhp on $50k car.
u have also to consider the higher the price goes up the higher is taxes and registration, insurance etc.
So there could be $1100 worth a difference on taxes alone between buying a $38K or buying a $50K car.
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The F10 is what the E60 SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE.
And just furthers shows how much of a design POS the E60 really is, especially when you line up all the gens together.
I'm not in love with the lower bumper design in front...but there will plenty of aftermarket solutions for that.
And just furthers shows how much of a design POS the E60 really is, especially when you line up all the gens together.
I'm not in love with the lower bumper design in front...but there will plenty of aftermarket solutions for that.
#1414
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The F10 is what the E60 SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE.
And just furthers shows how much of a design POS the E60 really is, especially when you line up all the gens together.
I'm not in love with the lower bumper design in front...but there will plenty of aftermarket solutions for that.
And just furthers shows how much of a design POS the E60 really is, especially when you line up all the gens together.
I'm not in love with the lower bumper design in front...but there will plenty of aftermarket solutions for that.
as for the lower bumper, i think that its a good rendition of formulating BMW design of a lower air dam.
#1419
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prefer the V10, for now...
#1421
Senior Moderator
yeah, miss the V10!
#1422
How? The V10 is punchless unless you rev it north of 3k.
Normal driving, where the engine makes most power you are north of 75mph at 2nd gear.
Having owned the V10 for over 4 years now. Where M5 really shines, there are very few public roads you can enjoy it.
I miss the low end punch of the V8 in E39. E60 became too heavy and combined with punchless low end. It's not that fun to drive. I actually much prefer the 6 speed 135i that i also currently have. Tons of torque at low end. The main thing the car is so light and so easy to toss around.
I for one really hope that the new F10 will be lighter and easier to throw into corners. The E9x M3 now behaves more like E39 M5 (again getting heavier and more refined, but not as fun as E46). Each generation of M has gotten heavier and less agile. Really hope the F10 will be much better than E60. I am on the wait list for the F10 and will definitely get one.
But the car that i am really looking forward would be the new M1 with turbo 4 coming with the new 1 chassis. I like the 1 series a lot.
Normal driving, where the engine makes most power you are north of 75mph at 2nd gear.
Having owned the V10 for over 4 years now. Where M5 really shines, there are very few public roads you can enjoy it.
I miss the low end punch of the V8 in E39. E60 became too heavy and combined with punchless low end. It's not that fun to drive. I actually much prefer the 6 speed 135i that i also currently have. Tons of torque at low end. The main thing the car is so light and so easy to toss around.
I for one really hope that the new F10 will be lighter and easier to throw into corners. The E9x M3 now behaves more like E39 M5 (again getting heavier and more refined, but not as fun as E46). Each generation of M has gotten heavier and less agile. Really hope the F10 will be much better than E60. I am on the wait list for the F10 and will definitely get one.
But the car that i am really looking forward would be the new M1 with turbo 4 coming with the new 1 chassis. I like the 1 series a lot.
#1423
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the sound
#1424
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Each generation of M has gotten heavier and less agile. Really hope the F10 will be much better than E60. I am on the wait list for the F10 and will definitely get one.
But the car that i am really looking forward would be the new M1 with turbo 4 coming with the new 1 chassis. I like the 1 series a lot.
But the car that i am really looking forward would be the new M1 with turbo 4 coming with the new 1 chassis. I like the 1 series a lot.
and, any info on the M1 ?? link?
#1426
Senior Moderator
Wont be a turbo 4 though. Theres also a video of it in that thread. Yum.
#1427
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=62547&page=23
Wont be a turbo 4 though. Theres also a video of it in that thread. Yum.
Wont be a turbo 4 though. Theres also a video of it in that thread. Yum.
#1428
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Not very vocal, i have heard much better sounding motors. This one was lacking.
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Bmw 535
by Sam Abuelsamid (RSS feed) on May 13th, 2010 at 10:29AM
The new 2011 BMW 5 Series hasn't even gone on sale yet here in North America but there are now reports that BMW might add a diesel engine option. According to Inside Line, BMW will add diesel engine options to two more models in addition to the X5 xDrive35d and 335d already sold here with a 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged inline-six diesel.
The 3.0-liter with 265 horsepower and 425 pound-feet of torque would be ideally suited to the new 5 Series and has already been calibrated to pass U.S. 50 state emissions regulations. We drove a previous generation European specification 535d two years ago, which was quite the stormer while also being extremely fuel efficient. A 535d would also go a long way towards helping BMW meet new CAFE regulations here in the U.S.
The second diesel addition could be one of several models. Diesel versions of the 7 Series and X6 both seem unlikely since BMW is already offering hybrid versions of both. The more likely scenario is the installation of the company's 2.0-liter inline four- cylinder diesel in either the 1 or 3 Series. In twin-turbocharged form, this engine produces 204 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque, plenty for either car with a combined fuel economy in the 35-40 mpg range.
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The new 2011 BMW 5 Series hasn't even gone on sale yet here in North America but there are now reports that BMW might add a diesel engine option. According to Inside Line, BMW will add diesel engine options to two more models in addition to the X5 xDrive35d and 335d already sold here with a 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged inline-six diesel.
The 3.0-liter with 265 horsepower and 425 pound-feet of torque would be ideally suited to the new 5 Series and has already been calibrated to pass U.S. 50 state emissions regulations. We drove a previous generation European specification 535d two years ago, which was quite the stormer while also being extremely fuel efficient. A 535d would also go a long way towards helping BMW meet new CAFE regulations here in the U.S.
The second diesel addition could be one of several models. Diesel versions of the 7 Series and X6 both seem unlikely since BMW is already offering hybrid versions of both. The more likely scenario is the installation of the company's 2.0-liter inline four- cylinder diesel in either the 1 or 3 Series. In twin-turbocharged form, this engine produces 204 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque, plenty for either car with a combined fuel economy in the 35-40 mpg range.
#1430
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^ wassystyle...Thanks for the post...but, wrong thread.
Moved into the 5-Series...
Moved into the 5-Series...
#1431
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First Drive: 2011 BMW 550i
Source: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
So there we were at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, ogling a new, preproduction metallic black (or really dark charcoal gray) 2011 BMW 550i, and our BMW pal said, "Hey, like to take it for a drive?" Got any more stupid questions? Gimmee that keyfob, Please. Scott Evans already ran down all the tech and spec stuff for you, so we'll focus on the actual piece in hand and the driving experience. The exterior design is ultrafresh and looks like a modern BMW without some of the overdetailing from which many of them have suffered. It's better balanced-looking than the outgoing 5 Series, but would never be mistaken for anything else. Underhood is the new, 400-horse, twin-turbocharged V-8, backed by ZF's new, and super high-tech, eight-speed automatic transmission.
This car isn't quick; it's genuinely fast, and smooth. We criticized this engine in the new 7 Series for a less than even acceleration curve and slightly jerky throttle response, but no such problem here. Perhaps BMW has evened out the engine's power delivery, or maybe the new trans calibrates the problem away. But the biturbo V-8's got power everywhere on the tach and is easy to drive slowly and smoothly and really gets with the program when you've got your toes into it. There's no turbo lag or jerkiness, just smooth power from a relatively low rpm, as there's meaningful boost available at low rpm. This powertrain makes that silky, turbinelike whirr we've come to expect from BMW V-8s, and it doesn't disappoint. While the result is exceptional, one wonders if this much expensive turbocharger hardware is needed or warranted to produce 400 horsepower. There are other V-8s that make as much power without all the technical complexity. Whatever, it sure works. As is typical of today's ZF automatic transmissions, this eight-speeder shifts smoothly without being mushy, and always seem to be in the right gear want a different one, just order up- or downshifts via the steering wheel paddle-shifter, or the throttle.
The interior is a higher-quality cabin than that of the outgoing 5 Series. And in the event you are/were an iDrive hater, you'll get along with this one better than previous-gen systems. Note that wide, high-def screen up high on the IP, easily in the driver's line of sight and very sharp and crisp to read. BMW seats are often on the sporty side of luxurious, and these are great chairs. Firm and supportive, but the bolstering is never intrusive, and the pinholed leather keeps you comfy in any weather. The highly lacquered wood trim looks great while still looking like wood, instead of shiny plastic, a fate that plagues some other luxury marques.
BMW has really nailed the ride/handling balance on this car too. It's quiet inside, but not overly silent (in a bad way). Wind noise is commendably low, and the big run-flat tires don't rumble much (more likely due to the fact that they are new and had few miles on them). Body motions are well controlled, the car never pitching much in corners, with plenty of grip on tap. Steering is more responsive and linear than in the outgoing 5. The ride quality is firm, but never harsh -- can't wait for the next M5 that'll be based on this chassis architecture!
The rest is all good: nicely weighted, responsive controls and driver inputs. Plenty of performance in every parameter. If you and three friends have a long way to go and a short time to get there, and want to do so in comfort and style, you won't go wrong here. Don't need 400 horses or want to spend quite as much? The new, single-turbo inline-six 535i should still more than get the job done.
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Source: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
More of the Same, Yet Better in Every Way
So there we were at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, ogling a new, preproduction metallic black (or really dark charcoal gray) 2011 BMW 550i, and our BMW pal said, "Hey, like to take it for a drive?" Got any more stupid questions? Gimmee that keyfob, Please. Scott Evans already ran down all the tech and spec stuff for you, so we'll focus on the actual piece in hand and the driving experience. The exterior design is ultrafresh and looks like a modern BMW without some of the overdetailing from which many of them have suffered. It's better balanced-looking than the outgoing 5 Series, but would never be mistaken for anything else. Underhood is the new, 400-horse, twin-turbocharged V-8, backed by ZF's new, and super high-tech, eight-speed automatic transmission.
This car isn't quick; it's genuinely fast, and smooth. We criticized this engine in the new 7 Series for a less than even acceleration curve and slightly jerky throttle response, but no such problem here. Perhaps BMW has evened out the engine's power delivery, or maybe the new trans calibrates the problem away. But the biturbo V-8's got power everywhere on the tach and is easy to drive slowly and smoothly and really gets with the program when you've got your toes into it. There's no turbo lag or jerkiness, just smooth power from a relatively low rpm, as there's meaningful boost available at low rpm. This powertrain makes that silky, turbinelike whirr we've come to expect from BMW V-8s, and it doesn't disappoint. While the result is exceptional, one wonders if this much expensive turbocharger hardware is needed or warranted to produce 400 horsepower. There are other V-8s that make as much power without all the technical complexity. Whatever, it sure works. As is typical of today's ZF automatic transmissions, this eight-speeder shifts smoothly without being mushy, and always seem to be in the right gear want a different one, just order up- or downshifts via the steering wheel paddle-shifter, or the throttle.
The interior is a higher-quality cabin than that of the outgoing 5 Series. And in the event you are/were an iDrive hater, you'll get along with this one better than previous-gen systems. Note that wide, high-def screen up high on the IP, easily in the driver's line of sight and very sharp and crisp to read. BMW seats are often on the sporty side of luxurious, and these are great chairs. Firm and supportive, but the bolstering is never intrusive, and the pinholed leather keeps you comfy in any weather. The highly lacquered wood trim looks great while still looking like wood, instead of shiny plastic, a fate that plagues some other luxury marques.
BMW has really nailed the ride/handling balance on this car too. It's quiet inside, but not overly silent (in a bad way). Wind noise is commendably low, and the big run-flat tires don't rumble much (more likely due to the fact that they are new and had few miles on them). Body motions are well controlled, the car never pitching much in corners, with plenty of grip on tap. Steering is more responsive and linear than in the outgoing 5. The ride quality is firm, but never harsh -- can't wait for the next M5 that'll be based on this chassis architecture!
The rest is all good: nicely weighted, responsive controls and driver inputs. Plenty of performance in every parameter. If you and three friends have a long way to go and a short time to get there, and want to do so in comfort and style, you won't go wrong here. Don't need 400 horses or want to spend quite as much? The new, single-turbo inline-six 535i should still more than get the job done.
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Nice, looks like what most of us would expect from a mid-size luxury/sport sedan.
#1436
I'm just curious, do any of you guys think BMW will ever get rid of that orange dash/console lighting in their non-sport models or is this something that is a staple of BMW and will see to the end of time? I mean I can understand having that on dedicated sport coupes, roadsters, etc but most people over the years I have read say they don't care for that color. Infiniti got a lot of slack years ago for yellowish/orange lighting, my FX has it, and Infiniti has done away with it to now everything is white and blue on the dash/console.
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I'm just curious, do any of you guys think BMW will ever get rid of that orange dash/console lighting in their non-sport models or is this something that is a staple of BMW and will see to the end of time? I mean I can understand having that on dedicated sport coupes, roadsters, etc but most people over the years I have read say they don't care for that color. Infiniti got a lot of slack years ago for yellowish/orange lighting, my FX has it, and Infiniti has done away with it to now everything is white and blue on the dash/console.
Otherwise, I'm really liking this new 5 series.
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Wow the 5 series is pure sex. I like it a lot more than the new E class. I wonder how the new A6 will look.