BMW: 5-Series News
07-05-2004, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
Helico, be careful how much of your screen you post - you might post unwanted stuff.
Ok, thanks. I will close all the porn related windows first
07-05-2004, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
114,375 USD. U.K is too freakin expensive.
07-06-2004, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
WOW! wat an ass!
I do agree though, and a nice front end to go with it. I love the base 5, so this sportier one is even better
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07-06-2004, 12:54 AM
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The new M5 is butt ugly. And not like Subaru ugly...I mean just plain BAD, inside and out.
BUT, all the new crap they are throwing in there...wow. Unfortunately I have a feeling that the 2005 M5 is going to be more of a test platform than a reliable union of technologies.
I'm also surprised at the apparent lack of torque with that big of an engine. Probably a by-product of the short stroke needed for the high redline, but still a bit of a disappointment.
However, like most German cars, the driver will possibly be inundated by all the different driving modes to really be able to have fun in it.
Technically, a big improvement. Reliability remains to be seen with all these new systems. And it's still ugly.
EDIT: They also have a 1-series preview video site up as well.
BUT, all the new crap they are throwing in there...wow. Unfortunately I have a feeling that the 2005 M5 is going to be more of a test platform than a reliable union of technologies.
I'm also surprised at the apparent lack of torque with that big of an engine. Probably a by-product of the short stroke needed for the high redline, but still a bit of a disappointment.
However, like most German cars, the driver will possibly be inundated by all the different driving modes to really be able to have fun in it.
Technically, a big improvement. Reliability remains to be seen with all these new systems. And it's still ugly.
EDIT: They also have a 1-series preview video site up as well.
07-06-2004, 10:45 AM
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I am guessing the car will start in the very high $60Ks in the USA and top at low $80Ks fully optioned.
word is the new m3 would start at mid/high 50s, and even low 60s...leading me to believe that the 5 would start high 70s/low 80s
07-08-2004, 12:05 PM
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Monster M5 Is Ready For the Road - - - By Tom Barnard - - Source: AutoExpress
Step aside supercars. BMW has revealed the most powerful road vehicle it has ever produced - and it's a saloon! This is the new M5. Powered by a huge 5.0-litre V10, with an astonishing 507bhp, the Bavarian bruiser will hit 60mph from a standstill in a claimed 4.7 seconds.
The top speed has been limited to 155mph, but insiders suggest the newcomer would better 205mph without the electronics in place, easily making it one of the world's fastest street legal cars.
To tame the engine's power, lots of gadgets have been fitted. When the car is started, it switches into a mode called P400, which restricts the engine's output to 400bhp - the same as the outgoing V8-engined M5. With this setting, the car is easier to drive in heavy traffic. But when the road opens up, a press of a button on the gearlever surround unleashes the V10's full power.
Rather than offer a conventional manual transmission or take the fully automatic route, BMW has decided on only one gearbox: a highly developed version of the SMG sequential shift. Boasting an amazing seven speeds, it allows drivers to swap cogs using the lever or with the paddles behind the steering wheel.
There's also a choice of 11 different gearbox settings, which vary the speed of the changes to find the perfect combination of comfort and performance. These range from fully automatic comfort mode to a launch control setting, which ensures the fastest possible acceleration from a standing start. What's more, the M5 has a variable differential lock mechanism and two-stage traction control to ensure that the engine's power is put down on the road efficiently.
Visually, the car is virtually identical to the M5 Concept unveiled at March's Geneva Motor Show. Modified front and rear bumpers, wider wheelarches plus extended side sills give an aggressive appearance, as well as aiding stability, while an M3-style vent in the front wing and new sleeker door mirrors differentiate the car from lesser models.
Under the skin, BMW claims nearly all of the suspension components have been changed from those used in the standard 5-Series to provide sporting handling and ensure the M5 can cope with the higher cornering speeds.
To retain the car's weight balance, the battery has been moved to the boot and the spare wheel ditched in place of run-flat tyres. Standard kit includes 19-inch wheels and a head-up display that projects the speed and sat-nav details on to the windscreen.
Set to make its show debut at Paris in September, before going on sale in the UK in March 2005, the M5 should cost around £58,000. But if the subtle saloon looks aren't quite to your taste, get your name on the waiting list for the M6. Using the same V10 and chassis, the fastest version of the 6-Series is due for launch at the end of next year.
Step aside supercars. BMW has revealed the most powerful road vehicle it has ever produced - and it's a saloon! This is the new M5. Powered by a huge 5.0-litre V10, with an astonishing 507bhp, the Bavarian bruiser will hit 60mph from a standstill in a claimed 4.7 seconds.
The top speed has been limited to 155mph, but insiders suggest the newcomer would better 205mph without the electronics in place, easily making it one of the world's fastest street legal cars.
To tame the engine's power, lots of gadgets have been fitted. When the car is started, it switches into a mode called P400, which restricts the engine's output to 400bhp - the same as the outgoing V8-engined M5. With this setting, the car is easier to drive in heavy traffic. But when the road opens up, a press of a button on the gearlever surround unleashes the V10's full power.
Rather than offer a conventional manual transmission or take the fully automatic route, BMW has decided on only one gearbox: a highly developed version of the SMG sequential shift. Boasting an amazing seven speeds, it allows drivers to swap cogs using the lever or with the paddles behind the steering wheel.
There's also a choice of 11 different gearbox settings, which vary the speed of the changes to find the perfect combination of comfort and performance. These range from fully automatic comfort mode to a launch control setting, which ensures the fastest possible acceleration from a standing start. What's more, the M5 has a variable differential lock mechanism and two-stage traction control to ensure that the engine's power is put down on the road efficiently.
Visually, the car is virtually identical to the M5 Concept unveiled at March's Geneva Motor Show. Modified front and rear bumpers, wider wheelarches plus extended side sills give an aggressive appearance, as well as aiding stability, while an M3-style vent in the front wing and new sleeker door mirrors differentiate the car from lesser models.
Under the skin, BMW claims nearly all of the suspension components have been changed from those used in the standard 5-Series to provide sporting handling and ensure the M5 can cope with the higher cornering speeds.
To retain the car's weight balance, the battery has been moved to the boot and the spare wheel ditched in place of run-flat tyres. Standard kit includes 19-inch wheels and a head-up display that projects the speed and sat-nav details on to the windscreen.
Set to make its show debut at Paris in September, before going on sale in the UK in March 2005, the M5 should cost around £58,000. But if the subtle saloon looks aren't quite to your taste, get your name on the waiting list for the M6. Using the same V10 and chassis, the fastest version of the 6-Series is due for launch at the end of next year.
07-08-2004, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Rather than offer a conventional manual transmission or take the fully automatic route, BMW has decided on only one gearbox: a highly developed version of the SMG sequential shift.
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07-09-2004, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
So no Valvetronic on this engine...
For some reason BMW applied Valvetronic aggressively on their small displacement, 4 cylinder engines first. I think the first one that got it was the 2 liter (or 1.8 liter) 4-cylinder engine. Which of course we do not see here, it's sold in Europe and elsewhere.
07-09-2004, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Nope. They went with the individual throttles, ala-M3.
For some reason BMW applied Valvetronic aggressively on their small displacement, 4 cylinder engines first. I think the first one that got it was the 2 liter (or 1.8 liter) 4-cylinder engine. Which of course we do not see here, it's sold in Europe and elsewhere.
For some reason BMW applied Valvetronic aggressively on their small displacement, 4 cylinder engines first. I think the first one that got it was the 2 liter (or 1.8 liter) 4-cylinder engine. Which of course we do not see here, it's sold in Europe and elsewhere.
They did use the Valvetronic technology on the 7-Series and the 545i. So it wasn't a small displacement issue. I suspect it was a RPM limitation issue.
