BMW: 3-Series News
#83
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Originally posted by Nicky Pass
Thats one reason I am hesitant to ever buy a BMW...they change like every 2 years!
Thats one reason I am hesitant to ever buy a BMW...they change like every 2 years!
The current model has been out forever. I would say germans don't change their models often enough. They give them a light refresh every 3-4 years but not enough to make them look any different.
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I like the front... can't tell about the back yet. I'm happy it's slightly larger too... it will have to grow a bit to stay competitive. They're posititoning the 1 Series under it, and it will be small, so theres a little room to grow.
#90
The color in the second pic (copper!?!?) is hideous !!
I could see getting used to that, but I dunno . . . .
The 7 series doesn't visually horrify me the way it does some folks. It's what's inside that makes my bowels rumble.
I could see getting used to that, but I dunno . . . .
The 7 series doesn't visually horrify me the way it does some folks. It's what's inside that makes my bowels rumble.
#91
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If the 3 series flops because of bangle there's no way he'll be around for very long. The 3 is BMW's bread and butter and if they can't move them they won't survive without some major restructuring.
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I started a thread about this a while ago, although the pics arent showing up anymore.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=4794
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=4794
#94
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Originally posted by fdl
I started a thread about this a while ago, although the pics arent showing up anymore.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=4794
I started a thread about this a while ago, although the pics arent showing up anymore.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=4794
But hey, have pics now
Maybe merge the two threads?
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i love the new 5 series, but this 3 is bad. not THAT bad, but bad. im different about this stuff, i believe bangle is great, but the x3, 7, 5, and now the 3 are all screwed up. hmmm.. what else does BMW have. oh yeah, the z4, also bangled up. BMW is screwed, i expect a huge, maybe even record decrease in profit, and a sad sad good-bye to Chris Bangle, one of MY favorite car designers. Love your 5 series Chris, but cmon man, they aren't your cars to buy, if the people don't like them, stop designing them. Ah I don't know, i just feel bad for him and BMW. But maybe people just need to adapt to this change (iDrive was at one time the most hated component on any car anywhere, look how makes have followed the lead, INCLUDING HIGHLY INNOVATIVE AUDI!)
#98
Originally posted by TSX 'R' US
There's something about the front end that makes the car look feminine...
I think it might be the eyelids (signal lights)
There's something about the front end that makes the car look feminine...
I think it might be the eyelids (signal lights)
#102
Chris Bangle was forbidden to work on the 3-series
This is simply repeat of what some of my dentist acquaintances have said: Chris Bangle was not allowed to design the 3-series. BMW, despite putting on a good face, is scrambling to redo the entire line before it's a financial debacle.
But that is only hear-say.
Gotta admit he's been very very good for Acura. I want a TL or 05 RL far more than a 3-series or 5-series even though they drive beamers.
Dr. Daryl
But that is only hear-say.
Gotta admit he's been very very good for Acura. I want a TL or 05 RL far more than a 3-series or 5-series even though they drive beamers.
Dr. Daryl
#104
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It seems many makes have passed BMW in the looks, price and reliability categories but until now BMW still had the upper hand in terms of driveability. Once other cars catch up in this latter category - the only thing left is the little badge on the hood.
The look on the new 3 is OK but I'm not sure that the 10K/month sales will continue. Of course after 2005 the 3 series will include only the sedan as the coupe will be the 4 series.
The look on the new 3 is OK but I'm not sure that the 10K/month sales will continue. Of course after 2005 the 3 series will include only the sedan as the coupe will be the 4 series.
#105
I don't think it looks so bad. It looks a little more coherent than the X3. Despite all the hard lines, it manages to look softer than the outgoing model,IMO.
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Originally posted by JosieBWay
looks like a Hyundai.
looks like a Hyundai.
#107
Originally posted by fdl
Ya, very nice! Could we see the full size version?
Ya, very nice! Could we see the full size version?
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BMW: M3 news **Turbo 6-Cylinder News (page 26)**
M3 Gets V8 Punch - - Source: Autoexpress
It's not only the 2-Series that reveals BMW's future sporting potential. The M3 performance flagship will arrive hot on the heels of next year's all-new 3-Series, and comes with a 400bhp 4.0-litre V8. That will make it the first V-engined M3 since the badge debuted in 1988.
The powerplant should be enough to give the car a sub-five second 0-60mph time, while the top speed will be electronically limited to 155mph. The machine will be easy to distinguish from lesser 3-Series models thanks to a larger front bumper, full-width airdam and muscular wheelarches, which will be filled by 20-inch alloy wheels fitted as standard.
Both coupé and cabriolet versions of the car will feature the V8, although these are likely to be called M4, in line with BMW's new naming policy that began with the 6-Series. It uses even numbers to denote coupé or drop-top models based on the platforms of odd-numbered saloons.
The M3 and M4 will also be offered in lightweight CSL guises. These models will tip the scales at significantly less than the standard cars thanks to aluminium panels, carbon fibre trim and heavy components such as the air-conditioning unit removed. The M3 is expected to appear in late 2005 and will cost about £45,000. Meanwhile, the M4 versions will follow in spring 2006, with the lightweight CSL in showrooms later that year.
It's not only the 2-Series that reveals BMW's future sporting potential. The M3 performance flagship will arrive hot on the heels of next year's all-new 3-Series, and comes with a 400bhp 4.0-litre V8. That will make it the first V-engined M3 since the badge debuted in 1988.
The powerplant should be enough to give the car a sub-five second 0-60mph time, while the top speed will be electronically limited to 155mph. The machine will be easy to distinguish from lesser 3-Series models thanks to a larger front bumper, full-width airdam and muscular wheelarches, which will be filled by 20-inch alloy wheels fitted as standard.
Both coupé and cabriolet versions of the car will feature the V8, although these are likely to be called M4, in line with BMW's new naming policy that began with the 6-Series. It uses even numbers to denote coupé or drop-top models based on the platforms of odd-numbered saloons.
The M3 and M4 will also be offered in lightweight CSL guises. These models will tip the scales at significantly less than the standard cars thanks to aluminium panels, carbon fibre trim and heavy components such as the air-conditioning unit removed. The M3 is expected to appear in late 2005 and will cost about £45,000. Meanwhile, the M4 versions will follow in spring 2006, with the lightweight CSL in showrooms later that year.
#113
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Originally posted by titan
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
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Originally posted by titan
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
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Originally posted by titan
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
Damn. 4.0 V8= 400hp in the M3/M4, 5.0 v10 = 500hp in the M5/M6... this 100hp per litre trend on the M models from BMW is fucking amzaing.
The M6 is expcted to make 550HP from the same engine.
#117
Pit Stop?
Being an M3, I'm sure it will be an awesome road monster, however, I'm still worried about what it's going to look like. In my opinion, you can't improve on the current M3 bodystyle, especially with BMW's new look.