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Old 03-23-2010, 01:26 PM
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Sounds to me like BMW is twisting the facts to pave the way for their upcoming FWD entry level car.
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Nice on that article.

I'm still on the fence with the 1 series.
I want to like it. I try. But something just doesn't look right with it.

My mind I'm sure would be swayed if I took the time to test drive one. But there's something that just looks a little about it.
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Well at least they weren't acting all elitist about it like a bunch of deutschbags, saying "Mine's better cause it has rear wheel drive "

that will be a weird one for sure though. A FWD, possibly 4-cyl BMW? The chances of something like that is similar to having an 6AT V8 RWD Acura.
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Well at least they weren't acting all elitist about it like a bunch of deutschbags, saying "Mine's better cause it has rear wheel drive "

that will be a weird one for sure though. A FWD, possibly 4-cyl BMW? The chances of something like that is similar to having an 6AT V8 RWD Acura.
If that isn't the truth...
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Well at least they weren't acting all elitist about it like a bunch of deutschbags, saying "Mine's better cause it has rear wheel drive "

that will be a weird one for sure though. A FWD, possibly 4-cyl BMW? The chances of something like that is similar to having an 6AT V8 RWD Acura.
Well, the FWD Bimmer has been confirmed, so I guess acura is gonna put that in the next RL?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The 135i is three seconds a lap slower than a 335i at VIR.

I don't imagine that a M135i will not come close to matching a M3.
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I didn't believe it at first, but: http://www.fastestlaps.com/track20.html
Ok, I know C&D did these tests, but something had to have been different like track/weather conditions/sumo wrestler driver... I mean, the 135 weighs 200 lbs less, the engine is the same, and the suspension is probably very similar, right? How could the 335 be 3 seconds faster?
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As reported on 1addicts homepage.

Here is it folks! The BMW M1 test mule in its real bumper, widened fenders, integrated duckbill trunk spoiler, upgraded M wheels, large brakes with cross-drilled rotors, and other bits of M goodies!! Although the hood power bulge, quad exhausts, and M side gills are not yet apparent, these are cosmetic items which are simply not yet added to this early production test mule.


Here is an FAQ about the M1 / 1M from our FAQ THREAD:

When can we expect to see the M1?
The First details of the production car will be announced at the end of the year [2010].

When will it go on sale?
The car will be ready for market launch at the end of the year and sales will begin in all parts of the world in mid 2011.

When will I be able to test drive an M1 in the U.S. And when will they stop making them (end of production)?
Cars will hit the markets by mid 2011. Production will end possibly early 2013.

How much will it cost?
In Euro there is talk about 10,000 more than the 135i. But I cannot assume the price in North America because it all depends on what the market will be like next year.

When will the Coupe version of the new 1-series platform arrive?
The Coupe and Cabrio models will be launched in 2013. You have not seen a Coupe because it is still too far down the road. The first model of the 1er will be the 5dr hatch then followed by the 3dr Hatch.

Is there a M1 convertible (E88) version in the works? If so how far behind the coupe will it be?
Yes they have plans to introduce a cabrio as well. [It will be introduced a] few months [after the Coupe].

Could the Cabrio version possibly have a fixed rollover bar option that way vert owners could track their cars every once in a while?
I do not think BMW will offer such a feature in a Cabrio.

What kind of engine we might expect N54, N55, twin, single turbo?
The engine is based upon BMW's latest Six Cylinder N55 with Twin-Turbo technology.

Will the coupe have a manual transmission option?
I have seen cars with both manual and M DCT.

How much will it weigh?
3,300 lbs or 1,500 kg Link

How much wider will the 1M/M1 be? Will we finally be able to fit some good wide rubber on there without extensive modification?
The rear and front track are wider so there will be a slight massage at the front and rear to accomodate the changes and give it a visual identity seperating it from the regular Coupe models.

Will it have a LSD?
Yes.

What kind of power figures we might expect?
It will be powerful to justify it's premium over the 135i but not to overstep the M3.

Will the M1 be tuner friendly?
Let us be absolutely clear about this but BMW have no love for the tuning industry primarily because they are usually left with the problem after things go wrong. That is why BMW Performance was brought in to play and why BMW play the void your warranty card. What you have seen so far with BMW performance is nothing compared to what will be coming in the future.
There is one Tuner BMW have a special relationship with and that is Alpina.

Will the M1 have either/or LED Angels or LED taillights?
I do not know for definite but cars I have seen (protoypes and design concepts) utilise the same specification as the 135i with optional xenon lighting.

Will the M1 will have an integrated duck bill spoiler for sure? ..or is this still up in the air?
For visual identity and of course aerodynamics the rear spoiler will be reprofiled in typical BMW M fashion.

Can you shed any light on interior changes? Particularly want to know about seats and dash/instrument cluster.
There will be a notifiable visual identity to distinguish the car's interior from other 1er Coupe models. Not everything is final.

Facts about the M1 from SCOTT26
  • The M1 will feature a Personalization Program
  • You have your central duct which will allow air a , priority for the High Performance Intercooler. Brake air ducts will provide cooling for the six piston (cermamic?) brake discs , on the bonnet there is an additional two ducts one for cosmetic symmetery the other for air. Two air intakes on the front wings bring the typical M look with the bar that incorporates the side indicator light now placed on top instead of striking through. Link
  • Because the rear wings of the car appear more muscular due to the width of the rear track. The designers incorporated the rear vents similar in appearance to what is featured on the X5 and X6 M models to help break up the heaviness of the rear bumper which made the car look too bulky at the rear. Link

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Hope it's not called the "M1"...that should be reserved.


1-Series M...perhaps?
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Awesome, just the kind of car I like. A small-ish (smaller than a midsize at least) RWD coupe with some balls to back it up. Fenders look beefy too. Wish the MSRP on the 135i was a bit lower though, but that is probably asking too much. I'm gonna guess $42-44,000 starting.

How about 135is?
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Hope it's not called the "M1"...that should be reserved.


1-Series M...perhaps?


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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Hope it's not called the "M1"...that should be reserved.


1-Series M...perhaps?
MEH. It's just a name. People will bitch and moan if it's M1, but they'd get over it
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An M1 supercar kinda wouldnt make sense anyway at this point, since the 1 series already exists as something else entirely anyway. Call it an M1 and get over it.

As much as I like the present day M3, it's evolved into something else entirely. This car looks an awful lot like a modern day rendition of the orginal M3.

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Ohhhh, sounds like it is shaping up to be nice.
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Video of it parked and on the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmVHU...layer_embedded
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Spy Shots: Hi-Po BMW 1 Series prototype flashes quad tailpipes to camera

by Sam Abuelsamid (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2010 at 7:24PM
<SMALL>BMW 1 series M prototype – Click above for high-res image gallery</SMALL>

It seems every time we catch a glimpse of BMW's upcoming high performance 1 Series, more details are revealed. Up until now, all of the mules and prototypes have had only two exhaust pipes. In contrast, the newest car to get caught on camera now has four pipes. Why is this significant? Because four pipes are one of the characteristic features of all M models.

This four-piped addition seems to indicate that this car will, in fact, earn that coveted M badge. We still don't know exactly what the widebody 1 will be called, of course, and we are leaning toward 1 Series M, something such as 1xx M (as in 140 M) is not out of the question.

If this mystery car is a 1xx M, we would expect the higher output engine to get a designation correspondingly higher than the current top 135 in keeping with BMW's sort-of-power-related naming convention. We still don't know when this car will debut, but sometime during the next auto show season seems probable.


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Report: BMW M1/135is to go on sale in Q2 of 2011

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<SMALL>BMW M1/1 Series M spy shots – Click above for high-res image gallery</SMALL>

It's certainly no secret that BMW is working on a high-powered version of the darling 1 Series coupe. After all, we've seen different mules and prototypes testing on many, many, many occasions. And while the speculation continues as to what the end result will be called (M1? 1M? 135is?), executives within BMW's M division have reportedly confirmed that the car will go on sale in the second quarter of next year.

Regardless of nomenclature, we're pretty stoked over what this potent little 1 Series will bring to the table, and we wonder how it'll fare compared to BMW's grandaddy M3. If the 2011 Q2 on-sale date is to be believed, we won't be surprised if the production car debuts at either the Paris or Los Angeles show later this year.
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Lightbulb Recall Central Has Another


New information released on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website shows that BMW is recalling all 1 Series models sold in the U.S. between 2008 and 2010 for a potential fire risk.

According to the manufacturer, cars built between December 1, 2007, and May 27, 2010, may not have sufficient clearance between the seatbelt tensioners and the sound insulation in the B-pillars. Should a crash occur, the tensioners could overheat. In rare instances, the excess temperature could possibly ignite the insulation material.

BMW has not yet released a fix for the issue, but has notified NHTSA of the recall and halted sales of all 1 Series models until it rectifies the design issue. BMW will notify owners of the recall shortly and provide updated information to NHTSA when it has a fix. For more information, contact your local BMW dealership.

Source: NHTSA

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So is it called the M1 or what?
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So is it called the M1 or what?

Nope.

It will be called the 1M
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Nope.

It will be called the 1M
Lame. They should've stuck with M1. 90% of people aren't going to know about the original M1.
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Nope.

It will be called the 1M
1M? Dunno about all of that.
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I prefer 135 M. Still, it looks pretty badass. Maybe I can "cheap out" on my next car and go with this in lieu of my elusive M3....

Btw, do any of you think BMW is whoring out their CSL rims a bit too much?
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funny thing is that not many BMW models come with the CSL style wheels.

I think only the E46 M3 Comp package, E9X M3 comp package, GTS and now the 1 Series M have them.

They are just flooded on BMW cars because of the replicas that are easy to get.
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Yesterday we got a close look at the new 1M. Yes most of it was covered. However we managed to not only get a glimpse of the color and design but also quite a few more details. Here are a few:
  • That is Valencia Metallic Orange (not Inka Orange). I am not a fan of metallic paint and especially metallic orange paint. Yet I have to say I love the look of this color both under the sun and at night.
  • The engine is N54 based (we’ll have more on this very soon)
  • The 1M will be manual transmission only – the costs were too high to engineer a DCT into such a limited run car
  • Yes those are M3 Competition package wheels
  • The front air intake is much like the M3’s but even more pronounced on this car (don’t ask how we know this)
  • The side skirts are also much like the M3’s in shape (again don’t how we know this!)

  • The side vents will be outrageous compared to what we’re used to. You can clearly see the outline (and a sneak pique of it) poking out from under the cover
  • There is one subtle change that will be coming (worldwide) to what you see i the revealed area. I can’t tell you what it is but if you think hard I’m sure the “lights” will go on and you’ll figure it out.

  • The rear valance will have vents above the exhaust that protrude out and are angled slightly inward.
  • There’s an oil-cooler in-front of the front left wheel
  • The rear-view mirrors will look very familiar to E9X M3 owners.
  • As many of you know Pyrat is the internal code-name. What you may not know is why this came about. The reason is that the team that worked on the 1M loved the name of a certain premium Rum and thought it was perfect for a car considered a rebel.
The car has presence. Undeniable presence that so many people reacted to when they first saw even a glimpse of it. The color, the fender flares and the large wheels combined with the compact nature of the 1 Series coupe give it a look that is flat out menacing. So far it’s lived up to all the hype. Now we just have to drive it.
We will have much more information (confirmed info you won’t get anywhere else) as soon as we can get some sleep. Look for it soon.
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How much do you guys think this will go for? Around what the E46 M3 stickered at?
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^ Thats about my guess.

Starting $45k sounds about right.
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Wow. If this thing looks anything like they say I'll definitely be interested when my lease is up. I just hope they incorporate M3-like side sills instead of the "bloated pig" look the regular 1 series has...
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^ you may want to give up your dream of owning an M3 for a 1M?
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Manual only!!!
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1M > Mustang GT?
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N54 Engine Confirmed (per Scott26):

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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> I see cars in the earlist stage but I have other projects to work on that I cannot afford to be distracted as I have many projects not only for cars but I also conceive stuff for BMWTV.de The German only BMW TV channel which in some cases do not involve cars. With each project now we have started to do Pre-visualisation on the computer because we can show it to the director and production crew and explain this is the angles we want to get the perfect shot.

The time window for this car is extremely tight and originally enthusiasm was not apparent until Dr. Kay Segler came to the M Division.
We had initially toyed with the idea of an 1M when we were conceiving the Coupe and did work with evaluation models then using the engine from the E46 and the upgraded E46 CSL engine but it proved to be too heavy for the car.

Originally in the early days of marketing the standard 135i was originally meant to be an M model.

The 1M that stands before you now has had possibly the most progressive stage from thought-production turnaround for a BMW. There had to be a lot of arm-twisting in the BMW Board because of the tight window between generation 1 and generation 2 of the Coupe. The proposal was greenlighted when BMW decided to use the Coupe model for the BMW eDrive evaluation. Therefore slightly extending it's life cycle.

When I first saw the car it was in a design studio as a full scale claymodel but since then some designers ideas have to make way for aerodynamics and engineering. The initial engine proposal was the N55 but they were having issues that cannot be solved within the time window. BMW Greenlit this car in July 09, now over a year later we see it as it intended , although testing still commences until the launch. Valvetronic was the main cause of the time delay but BMW have spent some time on this and are using the N55 as a basis for the next M3.

The best way to describe the engine of the 1M is a "Hybrid" but in the original form of Hybrid, nothing to do with "alternatives", but it is not a straightforward transplant.

There is a lot of this car that will carry over for the next generation 1M in which that car will switch to four cylinders to which the M Division engineers are already working on the basics without time constraints or restrictions. 1M (E82) is showing what is possible in a small timeframe 1M (F22) will show what is possible once you do not have restrictions. </td></tr></tbody></table>
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^ you may want to give up your dream of owning an M3 for a 1M?
Depending on how it looks, yes. I love the E46 M3 and this is more of a spiritual successor to that than the E92 which is bigger and has a V8. If they can give us an "M" 1 series with a 350-400 hp N54 and all the suspension/drivetrain upgrades while keeping the price in the $40k-$50k range I will definitely be in the market....
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Too bad it still has the googly eyes...
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Originally Posted by charliemike
1M > Mustang GT?


I've never liked the look of the 1 series at all. Very weird rear end and proportionately out of balance over all.
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they better call it the M1 and be done with it. don't change the nomenclature now.
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Originally Posted by speedyd718
they better call it the M1 and be done with it. don't change the nomenclature now.
I believe 1M is already pretty much set in stone. They may change their minds for the next generation.


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