BMW: 1-Series News
11-08-2007, 03:41 PM
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Was the 2002 ever cheap, I can't find a invoice of one, but I always though it was pretty expensive in it's day, like it was as much as a well optioned muscle car of it's time.
For me the 1 coupe quite a bit of it's relationship to a 2002 with it's weight and lack of a 4cyl engine. That and it probably won't rust and fall apart in 12 months of driving somewhere in Canada, I mean what is the fun in that. Next you will tell me that you shouldn't have to rebuild an engine every 80k miles.
For me the 1 coupe quite a bit of it's relationship to a 2002 with it's weight and lack of a 4cyl engine. That and it probably won't rust and fall apart in 12 months of driving somewhere in Canada, I mean what is the fun in that. Next you will tell me that you shouldn't have to rebuild an engine every 80k miles.
11-08-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Fully optioned I'm willing to bet the 128i will be close to $40k and 135i close to $45k.
I would say 36 and 41
11-12-2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stapler
Was the 2002 ever cheap, I can't find a invoice of one, but I always though it was pretty expensive in it's day, like it was as much as a well optioned muscle car of it's time.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...04-362746.html
11-12-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Fully optioned I'm willing to bet the 128i will be close to $40k and 135i close to $45k.
11-14-2007, 06:18 PM
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BMW 1-Series Starting at $29,375 in U.S.
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BMW North America has been telling us, since the announcement of a U.S.-bound 1-series, that it won't be "a cheap car" — with the value of that statement hanging on each readers' definition of "cheap."
Well, BMW has announced formal base pricing for the 1-series at Los Angeles, removing all doubt. The 128i coupe, with a 3.0-liter, 230 horsepower I6, starts at $29,375, while the 135i, with the twin-turbo, 300-horsepower six, clocks in at $35,600. This is being brought to you mere minutes after the announcement, and there is no official press release yet, so stay tuned and we'll keep you updated.
Well, BMW has announced formal base pricing for the 1-series at Los Angeles, removing all doubt. The 128i coupe, with a 3.0-liter, 230 horsepower I6, starts at $29,375, while the 135i, with the twin-turbo, 300-horsepower six, clocks in at $35,600. This is being brought to you mere minutes after the announcement, and there is no official press release yet, so stay tuned and we'll keep you updated.
11-14-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Since BMW has hinted the 128i will start under $30k, my guess is...
Base MSRP
128i - $28,500
135i - $33,500
The 328i starts at $35,300 so I figured this was a good estimate. Theres also a 5k difference between the 328i and the 335i.
Plus i think the price of the 328 and 335i will go up so... yea.
Base MSRP
128i - $28,500
135i - $33,500
The 328i starts at $35,300 so I figured this was a good estimate. Theres also a 5k difference between the 328i and the 335i.
Plus i think the price of the 328 and 335i will go up so... yea.
$35k base for a 135i? Not sure how i feel about that.
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11-14-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Ah poop my guess was wrong.
$35k base for a 135i? Not sure how i feel about that.
$35k base for a 135i? Not sure how i feel about that.
11-14-2007, 07:16 PM
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Guess you right, even the Evo and STI cost just as much now.
Rumor is the 135i will be offered a LSD from BMW as an dealer option accessory i think. Im sure it will be pricey though.
Rumor is the 135i will be offered a LSD from BMW as an dealer option accessory i think. Im sure it will be pricey though.
11-14-2007, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
I think the price is fair, keep in mind a VW R32 with Nav goes for $35k.
So the 1-series is basically 5K cheaper than the comparable 3-series...
but if you think about it, it's appropriately priced
11-14-2007, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Fully optioned I'm willing to bet the 128i will be close to $40k and 135i close to $45k.
11-14-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
So the 1-series is basically 5K cheaper than the comparable 3-series...
11-15-2007, 12:37 PM
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BMW this week released preliminary pricing details on the BMW 1-Series coupe, which will go on sale in America in spring 2008. U.S. pricing will start at $29,375 for the 128i and $35,675 for the 135i, with a fully-loaded car costing another ten grand on top of that.
The 135i features the same 300+ horsepower twin-turbocharged inline-six as the 335i 3-Series. Predictably, the 128i has the same powerplant as the 328i, delivering 230 horsepower.
Pricing for optional equipment on the 128i is not yet available, but the 135i can be ordered with a slew of options pushing its price tag close to $45,000.
A six-speed automatic transmission costs $1,275, the Premium Package is $3,300, the Sport Package is $1,000, the Cold Weather kit is $600, Active Steering costs $1,400, paddle shifters are a mere $100, Comfort Access adds $500, power front seats cost $1000, heated front seats are another $500, rear park assist is $350, navigation is $2,100, Bluetooth is $750, HD radio is $350, XM costs $595, premium audio is $875, and iPod adapter is $400, metallic paint adds another $475, and premium Boston Leather is $1,450.
Since many of these standalone options are included in larger options packages, adding up all the prices won't give an accurate estimate of the cost of a fully-loaded 135i. However, taking packages into consideration, we've determined a fully-loaded 135i would cost $44,500.
The 135i features the same 300+ horsepower twin-turbocharged inline-six as the 335i 3-Series. Predictably, the 128i has the same powerplant as the 328i, delivering 230 horsepower.
Pricing for optional equipment on the 128i is not yet available, but the 135i can be ordered with a slew of options pushing its price tag close to $45,000.
A six-speed automatic transmission costs $1,275, the Premium Package is $3,300, the Sport Package is $1,000, the Cold Weather kit is $600, Active Steering costs $1,400, paddle shifters are a mere $100, Comfort Access adds $500, power front seats cost $1000, heated front seats are another $500, rear park assist is $350, navigation is $2,100, Bluetooth is $750, HD radio is $350, XM costs $595, premium audio is $875, and iPod adapter is $400, metallic paint adds another $475, and premium Boston Leather is $1,450.
Since many of these standalone options are included in larger options packages, adding up all the prices won't give an accurate estimate of the cost of a fully-loaded 135i. However, taking packages into consideration, we've determined a fully-loaded 135i would cost $44,500.
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11-15-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdog
So when you max out the options you have about the same price of a maxed out 335i or base M3 at around $52,000... wtf is BMW thinking?
Edit: Sorry Bdog, you're right. $52K. Holyyyyyyyyyyyy shit.
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11-15-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by theslik1
Correction to my correction: more like $47K for a maxed-out 135i. Still too expensive... 
A very nicely optioned car $40k-$42k.
Just because a loaded to the gills 135i isn't cheap, that doesn't mean the car is not a fair deal.
That's why the options are just that, options.
11-15-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
where can you get 328i for 33k?
11-15-2007, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Not really...why would you buy a "maxed" out 135i?
A very nicely optioned car $40k-$42k.
Just because a loaded to the gills 135i isn't cheap, that doesn't mean the car is not a fair deal.
That's why the options are just that, options.
A very nicely optioned car $40k-$42k.
Just because a loaded to the gills 135i isn't cheap, that doesn't mean the car is not a fair deal.
That's why the options are just that, options.
Plan A was always the 335i. I got sidetracked with the 1-er as a value play and it really isn't shaping up in that regard, so it's back to dropping a few more coins for the 3. Plus, wifey is now on board.
11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by theslik1
I wouldn't, but at this price level I can get into a 335i with more standard equipment (and a little more cushy I'll admit) for about the same money. This is assuming that there will be virtually no dealing on the 1 vs. what can negotiated for a 3 right now. I'd never buy either car maxed out in any case.
Plan A was always the 335i. I got sidetracked with the 1-er as a value play and it really isn't shaping up in that regard, so it's back to dropping a few more coins for the 3. Plus, wifey is now on board.
Plan A was always the 335i. I got sidetracked with the 1-er as a value play and it really isn't shaping up in that regard, so it's back to dropping a few more coins for the 3. Plus, wifey is now on board.
Also to counter, the 335 doesn't have some of the features that the 135i has.
11-15-2007, 09:10 PM
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So, basically a $5k discount off a 335i?
Umm, I'm not taking that bait.
Some will because of that extra $100/mo they can't afford anyway but that's not that good a deal ... Basically means 135i vs. G37s on price ... Umm, not so much.
Umm, I'm not taking that bait.
Some will because of that extra $100/mo they can't afford anyway but that's not that good a deal ... Basically means 135i vs. G37s on price ... Umm, not so much.
11-15-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
So, basically a $5k discount off a 335i?
Umm, I'm not taking that bait.
Some will because of that extra $100/mo they can't afford anyway but that's not that good a deal ... Basically means 135i vs. G37s on price ... Umm, not so much.
Umm, I'm not taking that bait.
Some will because of that extra $100/mo they can't afford anyway but that's not that good a deal ... Basically means 135i vs. G37s on price ... Umm, not so much.
The 135i basically has G37 pricing, and while I like the looks of the G37......its not all that impressive to drive (nice, not great).
11-16-2007, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Hmmm, I think I'll take the new 300hp Hyundai coupe and spend the extra $10k on a new ZX10R......
But the Hyundai coupe isn't expected till spring of 09 at the earliest...
11-16-2007, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I was hoping it being a bigger price gap between the 1series and 3series. I mean after all one platform has been out since 1999. 
11-16-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
If anything, maybe its $2k higher than it really should base MSRP wise.
I'm still waiting to see what pricing is on some of the 128 packages... Most should be similiar to the 135, but the 135 comes standard with alot of stuff the 128 doesn't (xenons).
I'm thinking a 128 with xenons and CWP could be had for under/around $30K with a little haggling after the initial hoopla dies down (Sept 08 ?).
Jesal, how long after the release of the 335 did you get yours ?? I seem to remember you paid under MSRP...
11-16-2007, 10:21 AM
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I paid 1k over invoice and that was hmm, 7 months after it was released?
But the 328s were being sold for $500 over invoice easily.
If you gonna wait that long then you might as well find a used 335i
But the 328s were being sold for $500 over invoice easily.
If you gonna wait that long then you might as well find a used 335i
11-16-2007, 02:42 PM
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I still don't understand who the target market for this car is...
Considering the options you would really have to have a hard-on for the BMW tag to buy this versus many of the other cars coming out in the same price range.
Considering the options you would really have to have a hard-on for the BMW tag to buy this versus many of the other cars coming out in the same price range.
11-17-2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
So you buyin or what?
Figure I can get away with a stripper... 128i, ZSP, xenons, heated seats... $31,875.
I'm just hesitant to get back into the depreciation cycle on a 30K car again (and baxk into payments)... which is why a rwd hyundai coupe with a turbo 4 for low 20's intrigues me..
11-17-2007, 10:21 AM
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But that Hyundai will have the same crappy resale as the rest of the fleet whereas a 3 year old 128 will be worth something.
I don't think BMW has much leeway on pricing - if you look at the pricing of the same models in Europe you'd see why.
I don't think BMW has much leeway on pricing - if you look at the pricing of the same models in Europe you'd see why.
