:pimp: but the steering wheel looks a little outta place in the leather and woodgrain environment.
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That first Blue Train pic is a wallpaper now. :drool:
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Originally Posted by magneto112
yep. Flying Spur is the entry level Bentley sedan.
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Originally Posted by phile
Which seems odd to me, cause I think the Flying Spur looks more stately than the Arnage.
An Arnage in person is like a big regal f*you statement. Don't get that vibe from a CFS. http://www.rbmexchange.com/images/ve.../MB3111(1).JPG |
Originally Posted by Beltfed
An Arnage in person is like a big regal f*you statement. Don't get that vibe from a CFS. |
Originally Posted by Beltfed
Really? I disagree.........the CFS is nice, but looks like a big Phaeton with a CGT nose treatment.
An Arnage in person is like a big regal f*you statement. Don't get that vibe from a CFS. http://www.rbmexchange.com/images/ve.../MB3111(1).JPG |
Originally Posted by titan
Are you serious? The Phaeton and Flying Spur look nothing alike. You make it sound like it's a lame rebadge or something... The Flying spur is extremely stately, as your pic shows.
Regardless, the CFS like the CGT are nice.....but they are not real Bentley's (down to the VW steering wheel). The Arnage is a real Bentley, the upcoming Bentley Arnage Drophead Vert is a real Bentley. Extremely stately? You and I have different views of what makes something stately. |
Originally Posted by titan
Are you serious? The Phaeton and Flying Spur look nothing alike. You make it sound like it's a lame rebadge or something... The Flying spur is extremely stately, as your pic shows.
While being very luxurious, I see the Flying Spur as a "sporty" sedan by Bentley. Just as the CGT is a sporty coupe by Bentley. You want to push the car at all points to see what it can do. (And rightfully so) The Arnage is class, refinement and comfort. And while maintaining an exceptional powerplant, it is more of a "drive slow for all to see" car, as will the future Drophead. :yum: The Arnage demands more respect than the Flying Spur, which will subsequently receive respect regardless. They are both top-notch cars, without question, but the more finely appointed features of the Arnage is why it remains the "flagship". :2cents: |
Originally Posted by bgsm1th
While being very luxurious, I see the Flying Spur as a "sporty" sedan by Bentley. Just as the CGT is a sporty coupe by Bentley. You want to push the car at all points to see what it can do. (And rightfully so)
The Arnage is class, refinement and comfort. And while maintaining an exceptional powerplant, it is more of a "drive slow for all to see" car, as will the future Drophead. :yum: The Arnage demands more respect than the Flying Spur, which will subsequently receive respect regardless. They are both top-notch cars, without question, but the more finely appointed features of the Arnage is why it remains the "flagship". :2cents: |
Originally Posted by titan
Rightttt... That was my point. We're in agreement. I was responding to a statement that suggested that the CFS was just a Phaeton with different skin, and that it wasn't stately. All I was saying was that the CFS oozes class also. Look back, and you'll see that I think the Arnage is the cats meow, and that it's truly a flagship.
Though I do have to admit, the Phaeton does look SOMEWHAT similar to that of the Flying Spur... I bet they even share a few of the same parts... That said Arnage>CFS>Phaeton :co: |
^The definitely share parts, but you don't see most of them. I don't know... maybe i'm looking at the CFS with rose colored glasses on, because I still think it's an absolutely awesome car.
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Originally Posted by titan
I think it's an absolutely awesome car.
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Next Gen. Bentley Arnage News
A Driver’s Car - - By TONY LEWIN | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS - - Source: Autoweek
Bentley will explore lightweight construction techniques for the replacement of its flagship Arnage ultra-luxury sedan. The future new model will compete with the Rolls-Royce Phantom and Mercedes-Benz Maybach at the very top of the luxury market, so it will be very sporting, despite its size and status. “Bentley is the sporting alternative at that higher price too,” said Dirk van Braeckel, head of design at Bentley, told Automotive News Europe. Bentley is part of the Volkswagen group. “This is what will really differentiate us from the other cars. Ours will be a real driver’s car.” The car would be more aerodynamic, more muscular and make a stronger statement, van Braeckel said. “Being a driver-focused car, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a long limousine or be focused on the rear.” Asked whether the new car would be capable of more than 300 kph, like the Continental GT and Flying Spur, van Braeckel said: “Being a worthy Bentley, it would have to.” He added: “But it would also have to be a very personal, hand-built, commission-oriented type of car, like the Arnage is today. For the Arnage customer, his car is more of a castle than a house.” Bentley’s brand values are still the same as in the past, but they had been strengthened by the success of the Continental GT and Flying Spur, he said. “We gauge what we do in terms of our bloodline cars, but we don’t do retro.” This year, Bentley will launch two new cabriolets – the new Azure and the open version of the Continental. |
... good news. Looking forward to seeing it.
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2007 Bentley Arnage
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http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...e-1280x960.jpg http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...e-1280x960.jpg http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...e-1280x960.jpg http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...e-1280x960.jpg Press release... Bentley Motors continues the intensive development of its flagship Arnage range with the introduction of a major programme of powertrain and chassis enhancements for the 2007 Model Year. The Arnage’s renowned 6.75-litre V8 engine now develops up to 500bhp and is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission benefiting performance, driving dynamics and refinement. The powertrain changes are complemented by subtle exterior, interior and under-bonnet design cues. Key to this performance increase is the most powerful version of Bentley’s legendary V8 engine ever built at the company’s headquarters in Crewe, England. In the performance-oriented Arnage T model, the revised twin-turbocharged V8 engine produces a staggering 500bhp and 1000Nm of torque – an 11percent increase in power and a 14 percent increase in torque over the outgoing model. Twinned with the latest six-speed ZF automatic transmission, which uses state-of-the-art computer management, performance and refinement are optimised at all speeds. In the Arnage R and RL models the new engine is boosted from 400 to 450bhp, while torque climbs from 835 to 875Nm. “The 2007 Model Year Arnage range is clear evidence of our intent to ensure Bentley’s flagship model remains at the forefront of technology and delivers the performance, refinement and luxury that every Bentley customer demands,” explains Stuart McCullough, Member of the Board, Sales and Marketing. The 500bhp Arnage T is a true driver’s car with much higher performance and delivers an even more rewarding driving experience. The improvements to the refinement and comfort of the 450bhp Arnage R are equally striking, while the long-wheelbase RL shares the same increased power output together with major improvements to the rear passenger cabin. “Two years ago we introduced major upgrades to the Arnage’s chassis, steering and brakes,” says Dr Ulrich Eichhorn, Member of the Board, Engineering. “Those improvements meant the car could easily handle a significant increase in power and torque, so work began on this important powertrain programme.” The 2007 Model Year Arnage also benefits from safety, interior and design improvements. Every Arnage now has a Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, rSAP Bluetooth integrated telephone system and improved driver ergonomics as standard. Additionally, new wheel, exterior paint colour and interior trim options are available, as well as an optional retractable ‘Flying B’ bonnet mascot. The new 2007 Model Year Bentley Arnage range will go on sale from September 2006. Overview Uprated 6.75-litre twin-turbocharged V8 engine in Arnage T produces 500bhp and 1000Nm torque, thanks to new low inertia turbochargers and roller tappet system. Arnage R and RL models uprated to 450bhp and 875Nm of torque. Latest six-speed ZF automatic transmission with sophisticated locking torque converter provides fast yet ultra-smooth gearshifts. New Electronic Stability Programme (ESP) logic system improves dynamic response and handling with less intrusive intervention when a reduction in grip is detected. New Tyre Pressure Monitoring System fitted as standard to all Arnage models. Improved driver ergonomics thanks to 25mm increase in length of steering column and in vertical steering wheel adjustment. Exterior design styling changes includes new dark finish to Arnage T front radiator and bumper grilles, standardised bright chrome finish to R and RL grilles, and Bentley ‘B’ badges on the D-pillars. Underbonnet styling now features a black crackle finish to the Arnage T’s inlet manifold, embossed Bentley logo on plenum chambers and new ‘6¾ LITRE TWIN TURBO’ engine plaques. Interior design updates include new hide-trimmed gearlever and chrome gearlever bezel providing access to semi-automatic transmission function. New Thin Film Technology driver information panel displays more comprehensive and clearly accessible information. Arnage RL model receives additional standard specification including rear centre armrest bottle cooler, veneered rear centre cushion box, rear rSAP master telephone system, and reversing camera (US, EU, Australia and New Zealand markets only). Engine Bentley’s 6.75-litre V8 engine is the centrepiece of the 2007 Model Year Arnage development programme. This remarkable engine, the fundamental design of which has served Bentley models proudly for nearly five decades, has been extensively re-engineered to provide, in Arnage T specification, 500bhp and 1000Nm of torque - figures that ensure that the legendary Bentley wave of torque is even more astonishing than before. Top speed of the Arnage T has risen from 168mph/270km/h to 179mph/288km/h, while the 450bhp Arnage R and RL’s maximum speed increases by 13mph/21km/h to 168mph/270km/h. When the first V8 engine was built in the1950s, the design brief unwittingly benefited later generations of Bentley engineers. It was a very forward thinking design with an all-aluminium construction, a five main-bearing crankshaft, and a well-supported camshaft. The steps taken then laid the foundations for the longevity of the engine. “People might raise an eyebrow when they are told that the V8 engine in their 2007 Model Year Arnage was first used by Bentley in 1959,” says Bentley Motors’ Director, Powertrain and Chassis, Brian Gush. “But the reality is the basic design was so good that we have been able to continually improve it for nearly 50 years. “One of the reasons the engine has evolved so successfully is the position of the exhaust valves, high in the cylinder head, originally designed for rapid heat dissipation to help engine cooling. Decades later it meant that we could heat the catalytic converter due to the short path from valves to catalysts, which benefits exhaust emissions. This is just one of the reasons why this brilliant engine lives on today.” That first 6.25-litre engine produced around 200 horsepower – the new 2007 Model Year 6.75-litre V8 has more than twice that output, with 500bhp and 1000Nm of torque for the Arnage T. It was the introduction of turbocharging and intercooling in the early 1980s that saw step-change increases in the V8’s performance, and the latest engine programme is no different. Two new low-inertia turbochargers operate with far greater efficiency at lower engine speeds – they reach maximum turbine speed in half the time of the previous unit – thereby ensuring significantly reduced turbo lag and that prodigious wave of torque at any revs. Furthermore, a reprofiled camshaft with an all-new roller tappet system provides revised valve timing and substantially improved refinement. These changes also deliver for increased power, enhanced durability and ensure compliance with European EU IV and US LEV II standards. Although the 2007MY 6.75-litre engine produces around 300 horsepower more than its 1959 predecessor, its fuel consumption is only 60 percent of the original and thanks to its advanced fuel injection and exhaust controls, its emissions output is an incredible 99 percent lower than Bentley’s first V8. Drivetrain & Chassis Such an impressive increase in power and torque is, however, of little benefit unless the powertrain is capable of delivering it to the driven wheels. For this reason Bentley’s engineering team opted to introduce the latest six-speed ZF automatic transmission to the Arnage range. This state-of-the-art system offers two further ratios than the previous gearbox and has several key advantages over its predecessor: The wider range of ratios is specifically tuned to each Arnage model, ensuring greater flexibility, response and refinement for every model. Performance feel is also improved by using a sophisticated locking torque converter system which provides a more rapid response to throttle inputs. Three transmission modes (Drive, Sport and Semi-Automatic) allow the driver to take full advantage of the new gearbox. Semi-Automatic mode is accessed by placing the gearlever into the sequential manual gear-selector gate, where a new ratio can be engaged simply by pushing the lever forwards or backwards. A sophisticated electronic management system plays a major role in providing fast yet smooth gearshifts regardless of how the car is being driven. Previously the Arnage’s engine and transmission were governed by independent electronic systems; in the 2007 Model Year, an uprated Bosch computer-controlled management system ensures that both parts work as a single unit to produce a supremely refined yet highly responsive drivetrain. “The new ZF gearbox gives us a different dimension in transmission control,” says Dr Ulrich Eichhorn, Member of the Board, Engineering. “Our main objective was to get the engine and transmission working together enabling us to transmit every ounce of power. Using the lock-up in all gears eliminates what we call the ‘rubber-band’ effect – the surge of engine speed without a corresponding acceleration of the car – and gives much more immediate connection of throttle input to road speed. “As the engine speed approaches the point at which a gearshift is due, it signals to the transmission that it is time to shift, so the ratio changes are much quicker - it feels significantly faster from the driver’s seat. Similarly, when the gearbox is ready to change up it asks the engine to reduce the torque just for the period of the shift, which adds to the refinement.” Another important development for the 2007 Model Year Arnage range is the separation of the sports suspension and sports gearbox settings, allowing the driver to select their preference for each system independently – via a ‘Sport’ button on the dashboard for the suspension and by positioning the gearlever for the transmission’s Sport mode. A comprehensive chassis tuning programme was instigated alongside the powertrain updates to ensure the Arnage’s chassis comfortably handles the additional performance. Refinements to the ESP logic system allow more spirited handling without any reduction in stability or safety. The Traction Control system is extensively recalibrated with the aim of avoiding unnecessary reduction in engine torque. The ESP system now monitors the car’s overall stability rather than simply loss of grip to the wheels. This reduces the amount of intervention required and restores power earlier and more progressively, allowing the power of the engine to be fully exploited. “We don't believe in creating power and then taking it away,” says Brian Gush, Director, Powertrain and Chassis. “This new system allows the driver a lot more freedom to feel where the traction limit is without ever getting into trouble. The traction control is much more progressive and proportional – you can drift the car with some wheelspin but it never lets you get in any trouble. It is a calibration which keeps the spirited driver in mind.” Design Following the detailed design updates made to the 2005 Model Year Arnage, the latest models receive further exterior styling changes. ‘The revisions we made to the Arnage series two years ago gave the range exactly the sort of contemporary yet authentic Bentley feel that it needed,” says Head of Exterior Design, Raul Pires. “Now with big increases in power and performance we wanted to add some subtle design cues to reflect the differences between the Arnage models.” The performance intent of the Arnage T is underlined by the addition of a new dark finish to its front radiator and bumper grilles. A standardised bright chrome finish is applied to the R and RL grilles while Bentley ‘B’ badges have been applied to the D-pillars on all models. To highlight the superb feat of engineering beneath the Arnage’s bonnet, a newly styled engine bay leaves no doubt as to the potency of the car. A black crackle finish has been applied to the Arnage T’s inlet manifold, while every model displays an embossed Bentley logo on the turbocharger plenum chambers and new ‘6¾ LITRE TWIN TURBO’ engine plaques. Additional optional extras include a 19-inch six-spoke disc wheel for the R and RL models, and 19-inch five-spoke ‘Blade’ sports wheel for the Arnage T. Also available across the range is the famous winged ‘B’ mascot, which saw a welcome return this year on the Diamond Series Arnage. The iconic mascot – which can retract neatly into the grille surround – was originally designed by motoring artist F. Gordon Crosby and first used on the 1930 Bentley 8 Litre. Interior design updates include a new hide-trimmed gearlever, chrome gearlever bezel, and new Thin Film Technology driver information panel to display more comprehensive and clearly accessible information. The Arnage RL model receives additional standard specification including a rear centre armrest bottle cooler, veneered rear centre cushion box, rear rSAP Bluetooth master telephone system and reversing camera (US, EU, Australia and New Zealand markets only). Conclusion The significant upgrades to both engine and transmission mean every new Arnage will not just match customer expectations but surpass them on all fronts, as Dr Franz-Josef Paefgen, Bentley Motors’ Chairman and Chief Executive explains: “These important powertrain enhancements reaffirm the very essence of the Bentley Arnage, offering our customers an absolutely unique blend of seamless power and torque which produces storming performance when you demand it and blissfully relaxed cruising when you don’t.” |
pimpiest daddy of them all
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Aston Martin Rapide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bentley Arnage
But, the Arnage is still not bad. |
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Two tone paint = :ugh: :ghetto: Nonetheless, a Bentley that wasn't designed by VW > an Aston Martin designed by Ford/Jaguar. |
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Aston Martin Rapide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bentley Arnage
But, the Arnage is still not bad. |
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Bentley Arnage to get Bugatti's quad-turbo W16...?
From Leftlanenews...
Bentley has fitted a prototype Arnage with with a version of the Bugatti Veyron’s 987bhp quad-turbo W16 engine, a new report finds. Franz-Josef Paefgen — who heads Bentley and is president of Bugatti — is believed to be pushing for the development of the prototype. According to AutoCar, it remains unclear if the prototype will ever make it to production or is merely a show car. If it does make it to production, look for the engine to be detuned to increase its streetability. Currently, the Arnage uses a 6.75-liter V8 that makes 500 horsepower. |
Uhhh, that's kinda crazy for a lux sedan
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Bet that the next gen Arnage shares its platform with Bugatti. We all know the most likely next Bugatti would be a four door ultra-ultra lux w/ the Veyron's 16 under the bonnet.
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So when is the Arnage due for a complete redesign?
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Production to End with Special “Final Series” Model
Tip courtesy or artbran (thanks again!)...
From here: http://www.modifiedle.com/events/arc...event_095.html For ten years now the Arnage has been the four-door flagship over at Bentley, but it’s time is quickly coming to an end. To celebrate the end of an era, Bentley is building 150 “Final Series” models which will take the best of the Arnage T and R models, to deliver unprecedented luxury and performance. Bentley also plans to add a dash of excitement with some styling cues taken from the new Brooklands coupe. Exterior styling will only be changed slightly with body colored headlamp bezels, blacked-out grilles, 10-inch wheels and dual exhaust pipes. The Final Series model will, however, feature a retractable “Flying B” ornament and will have plenty of “Final Series” badges. Inside, the vehicle also remains mostly unchanged but receives some gimmicky touches, including a “Final Series” flask and shot glasses, as well as four umbrellas. Proving that even a car with as much old-world charm as an Arnage can also be technologically sophisticated, the Final Series will come with an iPod interface and an optional 1100 watt 10-speaker sound system. The Arnage Final Series will make use of Bentley’s famous 6.75-liter twin-turbo V-8 engine, which in this vehicle will produce a reasonable 500 hp at 4200 rpm and an outrageous 738 ft-lbs of torque at just 3200 rpm! Mated to a six speed automatic ZF gearbox, this is enough motivation to launch the 5,700 lb sedan to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds, to 100 mph in 12.1 seconds and to a top seed of 179 mph. |
Originally Posted by Yumchah
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Exterior styling will only be changed slightly with body colored headlamp bezels, blacked-out grilles, 10-inch wheels and dual exhaust pipes. The Final Series model will, however, feature a retractable “Flying B” ornament and will have plenty of “Final Series” badges.
trike-status. QC FTL |
CFS is as common as the XJ or 550 as people with drivers. On a daily basis, i would give the 550 more head turns than the CFS. ultimately, CFS doesnt have as much exterior presence as the arnage. at least when comparing the Arnage to its given competitors at the time...
for some reason, the CFS screams new money. but the arnage always says old wealth. |
Official teaser for all-new ‘Grand Bentley’ Arnage replacement
From Motor Authority...
Today's Arnage is showing its age against modern ultra-luxury rivals like the Rolls Royce Phantom and Maybach saloons, but testing of a new model is well underway. Despite the head-start of its rivals, Bentley is planning to pause almost a full year from this September before going into production of its next-gen, up-scale Arnage replacement, which has been partially revealed today in teaser form. The all-new model is expected to be more expensive than the current Arnage, and some sources speculate the car might be pitched at a higher position. This would make it a direct challenger to the Rolls-Royce Phantom, at a time when a new Rolls-Royce Ghost is preparing to take on the Bentley Continental Flying Spur. A spokesman would only confirm that "the price will reflect the exclusivity and positioning of this all-new model," and that the name of the vehicle will be announced at its unveiling this summer. Expect to see the car debut at Augusts’ Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Under the code name “Project Kimberly”, the new model will be based off a heavily revised version of Audi’s modular platform used for a host of models ranging from the A4 sedan up to the next A8 flagship. However, the Bentley will feature its own unique V8 powertrain with drive sent to the rear wheels via ZF’s new 8-speed automatic. It's likely the new V8 will feature some form of forced induction, but whether it will be supercharged, twin-turbocharged or something similar remains uncertain. There were rumors Bentley may introduce a new diesel engine in its Arnage replacement but the eventual engine option is most likely to be a petrol unit with E85 capability. The car is also expected to make heavy use of aluminum in its construction to keep weight and emissions down. A high-performance replacement for the Arnage T is also in the works, but don’t expect it to feature the Bugatti Veyron’s W16 engine as previously rumored. Expect Bentley's strategy with the Arnage - in terms of parts-sharing, at least - to follow along the same premises as it has already outlined for the next-gen Continental. |
It must be nice to have so much money that buying a bentley is a small expense....got to keep playing the lotto!
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