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#521
so it is combination of comfort and handling will also exceed any thing else.
7 speed (consider it equal to 9 speed of other manufacturers), DI+Hybrid electric, SH-AWD and TSX inspired shape,LED energy. This is the best combination.
#522
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RLX will be the fastest and most fuel efficient combination of luxury sedan anywhere in the world.Handling will be not be worse than S6 as S6 pulled only 0.87g in C&D. RLX should match it with all season setup with 19inch & tall side walls. There will be no compromise on ground clearance either.
so it is combination of comfort and handling will also exceed any thing else.
7 speed (consider it equal to 9 speed of other manufacturers), DI+Hybrid electric, SH-AWD and TSX inspired shape,LED energy. This is the best combination.
so it is combination of comfort and handling will also exceed any thing else.
7 speed (consider it equal to 9 speed of other manufacturers), DI+Hybrid electric, SH-AWD and TSX inspired shape,LED energy. This is the best combination.
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...
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Dude...if I'm in the market for a FAST and LUXURIOUS sedan? I could give a rats @$$ on fuel efficiency. Put it this way, when I bought the FX, I did not care about how much gas it cost. I just cared that it had the features I wanted and it was fast.
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...
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Dude...if I'm in the market for a FAST and LUXURIOUS sedan? I could give a rats @$$ on fuel efficiency. Put it this way, when I bought the FX, I did not care about how much gas it cost. I just cared that it had the features I wanted and it was fast.
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...
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#525
Dude...if I'm in the market for a FAST and LUXURIOUS sedan? I could give a rats @$$ on fuel efficiency. Put it this way, when I bought the FX, I did not care about how much gas it cost. I just cared that it had the features I wanted and it was fast.
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
So, not sure what demographic you're thinking of that would want fuel efficiency if they are about to pop $80K+ on a car.
And lastly...no offense? But, having the RLX in the same conversation with the M5, S6, and E63 AMG is an insult to the latter 3 cars. If there are Japanese cars that have a shot at being in the same tier as those Germans, it'd be coming from Lexus and Infiniti (i.e. Lexus GS and Infiniti M)...
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Special car is that new A8 that normally aspirated 370bhp is as fast as turbo charged BMW 550 despite A8 having 20inch rims.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...c51c44ee29.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...2080f198e6.pdf
now add electric torque to those 370bhp with much better aerodynamic efficiency. you get RLX.
If they bring weight of RLX to near TL-Sh-AWD. you have car that will be way faster than TL just by power alone with much better aerodynamic efficiency.
which is possible with new 3.5 V6 and light weight materials. although hybrid will add weight. Honda claims they have created world lightest 1.6L diesel engine. there is reason to believe that next generation of Honda V6 will be light.
This RLX is miles ahead of GS/M. This time you have to trust Honda execution.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...a_rlx_concept/
What Lies Beneath
That smaller stature, along with extensive use of aluminum, should translate into a lighter car. Acura won't provide specific figures at this point in time, but it does note the 2013 RLX should weigh "well under 4000 pounds." If so, that's a significant change from the 2012 RL: base models tip the scales at just over 4000 pounds, while loaded models are north of the 4100-pound mark.
#526
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fuel efficiency are t important thing when your driving luxury sedans in 120 degree F heat with full blown AC moving over 100mph in places like Middleast & North Africa. You dont want to stop in that heat too often. This is now true for India/China and too certain extent US/Southern Russia. why do you think there is 24gallon tank in A8? There are diesel version that can go 1000 mile on a tank.
There is nothing special in M5/S6/E63. Just turbo charge the 3.7L TL-SHAWD with 6MT and HPT tires.the end result will not be different. THis is without even lowering the car.
Special car is that new A8 that normally aspirated 370bhp is as fast as turbo charged BMW 550 despite A8 having 20inch rims.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...c51c44ee29.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...2080f198e6.pdf
now add electric torque to those 370bhp with much better aerodynamic efficiency. you get RLX.
If they bring weight of RLX to near TL-Sh-AWD. you have car that will be way faster than TL just by power alone with much better aerodynamic efficiency.
which is possible with new 3.5 V6 and light weight materials. although hybrid will add weight. Honda claims they have created world lightest 1.6L diesel engine. there is reason to believe that next generation of Honda V6 will be light.
This RLX is miles ahead of GS/M. This time you have to trust Honda execution.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...a_rlx_concept/
What Lies Beneath
That smaller stature, along with extensive use of aluminum, should translate into a lighter car. Acura won't provide specific figures at this point in time, but it does note the 2013 RLX should weigh "well under 4000 pounds." If so, that's a significant change from the 2012 RL: base models tip the scales at just over 4000 pounds, while loaded models are north of the 4100-pound mark.
There is nothing special in M5/S6/E63. Just turbo charge the 3.7L TL-SHAWD with 6MT and HPT tires.the end result will not be different. THis is without even lowering the car.
Special car is that new A8 that normally aspirated 370bhp is as fast as turbo charged BMW 550 despite A8 having 20inch rims.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...c51c44ee29.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...2080f198e6.pdf
now add electric torque to those 370bhp with much better aerodynamic efficiency. you get RLX.
If they bring weight of RLX to near TL-Sh-AWD. you have car that will be way faster than TL just by power alone with much better aerodynamic efficiency.
which is possible with new 3.5 V6 and light weight materials. although hybrid will add weight. Honda claims they have created world lightest 1.6L diesel engine. there is reason to believe that next generation of Honda V6 will be light.
This RLX is miles ahead of GS/M. This time you have to trust Honda execution.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...a_rlx_concept/
What Lies Beneath
That smaller stature, along with extensive use of aluminum, should translate into a lighter car. Acura won't provide specific figures at this point in time, but it does note the 2013 RLX should weigh "well under 4000 pounds." If so, that's a significant change from the 2012 RL: base models tip the scales at just over 4000 pounds, while loaded models are north of the 4100-pound mark.
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#527
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#528
GS450h has CVT lacks SH-AWD & aerodynamics of RLX but still decent performer. Electric power is new choice for luxury. RLX will stand out as the most impressive offering in Honda history. with real performance numbers not pseudo stuff like NSX.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...gs-450h-luxury
#529
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fuel efficiency are t important thing when your driving luxury sedans in 120 degree F heat with full blown AC moving over 100mph in places like Middleast & North Africa. You dont want to stop in that heat too often. This is now true for India/China and too certain extent US/Southern Russia. why do you think there is 24gallon tank in A8? There are diesel version that can go 1000 mile on a tank.
There is nothing special in M5/S6/E63. Just turbo charge the 3.7L TL-SHAWD with 6MT and HPT tires.the end result will not be different. THis is without even lowering the car.
Special car is that new A8 that normally aspirated 370bhp is as fast as turbo charged BMW 550 despite A8 having 20inch rims.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...c51c44ee29.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...2080f198e6.pdf
now add electric torque to those 370bhp with much better aerodynamic efficiency. you get RLX.
If they bring weight of RLX to near TL-Sh-AWD. you have car that will be way faster than TL just by power alone with much better aerodynamic efficiency.
which is possible with new 3.5 V6 and light weight materials. although hybrid will add weight. Honda claims they have created world lightest 1.6L diesel engine. there is reason to believe that next generation of Honda V6 will be light.
This RLX is miles ahead of GS/M. This time you have to trust Honda execution.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...a_rlx_concept/
What Lies Beneath
That smaller stature, along with extensive use of aluminum, should translate into a lighter car. Acura won't provide specific figures at this point in time, but it does note the 2013 RLX should weigh "well under 4000 pounds." If so, that's a significant change from the 2012 RL: base models tip the scales at just over 4000 pounds, while loaded models are north of the 4100-pound mark.
There is nothing special in M5/S6/E63. Just turbo charge the 3.7L TL-SHAWD with 6MT and HPT tires.the end result will not be different. THis is without even lowering the car.
Special car is that new A8 that normally aspirated 370bhp is as fast as turbo charged BMW 550 despite A8 having 20inch rims.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...c51c44ee29.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...2080f198e6.pdf
now add electric torque to those 370bhp with much better aerodynamic efficiency. you get RLX.
If they bring weight of RLX to near TL-Sh-AWD. you have car that will be way faster than TL just by power alone with much better aerodynamic efficiency.
which is possible with new 3.5 V6 and light weight materials. although hybrid will add weight. Honda claims they have created world lightest 1.6L diesel engine. there is reason to believe that next generation of Honda V6 will be light.
This RLX is miles ahead of GS/M. This time you have to trust Honda execution.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...a_rlx_concept/
What Lies Beneath
That smaller stature, along with extensive use of aluminum, should translate into a lighter car. Acura won't provide specific figures at this point in time, but it does note the 2013 RLX should weigh "well under 4000 pounds." If so, that's a significant change from the 2012 RL: base models tip the scales at just over 4000 pounds, while loaded models are north of the 4100-pound mark.
And I know I'm not just speaking for myself. Do a look up on market studies for cars in that segment and you will see that amenities, HP, acceleration, and performance are all rated higher than gas mileage.
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In regards to the RLX, again, disagree. Acura is not even directly competing against the BMW, Audi, or Mercedes-Benz. And I think you're the only one here who thinks the RLX is "miles ahead" of the Lexus GS and Infiniti M series. As much as I USED to be a big-time fan of Honda products, they have been left behind in the performance and high-end segments.
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I disagree. Again, I'll say it: if I'm dropping that $$$$ in a sedan, gas mileage is the last thing I care about it.
And I know I'm not just speaking for myself. Do a look up on market studies for cars in that segment and you will see that amenities, HP, acceleration, and performance are all rated higher than gas mileage.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
In regards to the RLX, again, disagree. Acura is not even directly competing against the BMW, Audi, or Mercedes-Benz. And I think you're the only one here who thinks the RLX is "miles ahead" of the Lexus GS and Infiniti M series. As much as I USED to be a big-time fan of Honda products, they have been left behind in the performance and high-end segments.
And I know I'm not just speaking for myself. Do a look up on market studies for cars in that segment and you will see that amenities, HP, acceleration, and performance are all rated higher than gas mileage.
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In regards to the RLX, again, disagree. Acura is not even directly competing against the BMW, Audi, or Mercedes-Benz. And I think you're the only one here who thinks the RLX is "miles ahead" of the Lexus GS and Infiniti M series. As much as I USED to be a big-time fan of Honda products, they have been left behind in the performance and high-end segments.
This GS/M is not in same class when performance & handling is concerned just by power delivery & transmission alone. not even S6 that can only pull 0.87g will match RLX on all season setup. I am not even going into aerodymanics.
Honda has moved so far in aerodynamics that the new RDX from only 270bhp can reach 0-100mph in 16.5 seconds with highest ground clearance of vehicle in its class. that without modern DI engine torque delivery or forced induction and its AWD system is totally front biased for normal dry pavement.
why shouldnt RLX do the same in 10 seconds?
#531
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Acura already created world fastest turbo charged 4cylinder 5speed RDX SUV almost 7 years ago. Implementing turbo charger is not hard compared to this complex hybrid electric drive train.
GS450h has CVT lacks SH-AWD & aerodynamics of RLX but still decent performer. Electric power is new choice for luxury. RLX will stand out as the most impressive offering in Honda history. with real performance numbers not pseudo stuff like NSX.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...gs-450h-luxury
GS450h has CVT lacks SH-AWD & aerodynamics of RLX but still decent performer. Electric power is new choice for luxury. RLX will stand out as the most impressive offering in Honda history. with real performance numbers not pseudo stuff like NSX.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...gs-450h-luxury
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#532
My first Avatar....
If its not that hard, then why dont they do it? Have you ever driven a AMG, M,S, V version? Honda/Acura have NOTHING that compares. Period! The sheer visceral power of those cars is something that many want and acura just plain doesnt have. Dont even start to try to explain to me about acuras magical cd, or super dooper aerodynamic mirrors, or try to spin it with fictional paper statistics.
#534
If its not that hard, then why dont they do it? Have you ever driven a AMG, M,S, V version? Honda/Acura have NOTHING that compares. Period! The sheer visceral power of those cars is something that many want and acura just plain doesnt have. Dont even start to try to explain to me about acuras magical cd, or super dooper aerodynamic mirrors, or try to spin it with fictional paper statistics.
All these cars have much less techical complexity than Honda and Yamaha (Engine supplier to Toyota) can produce. They just dont want to for business reason. Now they are going to implement electric hybrid with AWD. and it will be much better than old turbo charger.
http://www.compositesworld.com/news/...op-cf-for-cars
Japanese automakers Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. announced on July 24 that they have joined with Toray Industries Inc. (Tokyo, Japan) to develop a new carbon fiber material for use in auto bodies, aiming to mass produce cars that are lighter by as much as 40 percent than steel-built vehicles. The group aims to establish mass production technology for the new material by the middle of the next decade, the Nikkei business daily reported, without citing a source.
Japanese automakers Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. announced on July 24 that they have joined with Toray Industries Inc. (Tokyo, Japan) to develop a new carbon fiber material for use in auto bodies, aiming to mass produce cars that are lighter by as much as 40 percent than steel-built vehicles. The group aims to establish mass production technology for the new material by the middle of the next decade, the Nikkei business daily reported, without citing a source.
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#535
6G TLX-S
AMG/M/S are pretty minor upgrade when you look at Buggati Veryon, Ferrari Enzo or Mclaren. Do you think Honda cannot do it when it has co developed Jet engine with GE? and iis world first fully carbon fibre aircraft. composite and robotics technology is light years in Japan than what is Italy and Germany.
All these cars have much less techical complexity than Honda and Yamaha (Engine supplier to Toyota) can produce. They just dont want to for business reason. Now they are going to implement electric hybrid with AWD. and it will be much better than old turbo charger.
All these cars have much less techical complexity than Honda and Yamaha (Engine supplier to Toyota) can produce. They just dont want to for business reason. Now they are going to implement electric hybrid with AWD. and it will be much better than old turbo charger.
We can all talk, discuss, and argue until next year or even the year after. But it still doesn't change the fact that Honda/Acura has no such capable car(s) NOW.
#536
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#537
see Nissan GTR being 400lbs heavier and down in torque with 20 inch wheel (19inch on Porsche) still produce identical performance as 180k Porsche at half price. No M/RS/AMG model can match GTR.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
I consider previous RDX and current RDX as much greater engineering marvel despite having less bhp and old style transmission with high ground clearance. they produce excellent performance. because you dont expect those numbers from the specification sheet.
Nissan GTR does not come in super category but LFA does. There is fundamental difference in materials.
Honda is perfectly capable of better than LFA with AWD & hybrid setup in NSX and LFA is much beyond what currently Germans are offering.
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2010/04/2...possibilities/
Ward’s Auto has published an article summarizing Lexus LFA project manager and vehicle materials expert Nobuya Kawamura’s recent presentation at the JEC Composite exposition in Paris, France.
Kawamura talked about the “never-ending process” of the supercar’s carbon fiber development, which ultimately led to Lexus engineers learning multiple techniques for producing several types of the material, including a switch from thermoset resins to thermoplastic resins (the former can be cured once, the latter can be remolded multiple times), which resulted in increased automation and reduced labor costs. As a result, the LFA is 65% carbon fiber-reinforced plastic (CFRP), with the remainder largely aluminum.
With the weight savings and unique structural design possibilities offered by carbon fiber (the exterior LFA shell includes design features, such as body pillars, that are only possible through the use of CFRP), it seems likely that such exotic materials will find their way into Lexus models, perhaps starting with the F-marque lineup (maybe with the long-rumored GS F?), or even F-Sport type parts. The future avenues seem quite exciting, to say the least.
Ward’s Auto has published an article summarizing Lexus LFA project manager and vehicle materials expert Nobuya Kawamura’s recent presentation at the JEC Composite exposition in Paris, France.
Kawamura talked about the “never-ending process” of the supercar’s carbon fiber development, which ultimately led to Lexus engineers learning multiple techniques for producing several types of the material, including a switch from thermoset resins to thermoplastic resins (the former can be cured once, the latter can be remolded multiple times), which resulted in increased automation and reduced labor costs. As a result, the LFA is 65% carbon fiber-reinforced plastic (CFRP), with the remainder largely aluminum.
With the weight savings and unique structural design possibilities offered by carbon fiber (the exterior LFA shell includes design features, such as body pillars, that are only possible through the use of CFRP), it seems likely that such exotic materials will find their way into Lexus models, perhaps starting with the F-marque lineup (maybe with the long-rumored GS F?), or even F-Sport type parts. The future avenues seem quite exciting, to say the least.
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The GTR is a technological masterpiece in what it does to achieve its traction. Its actually a great wonder how it does it. Its not a low center of gravity that does what it does.
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#539
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#540
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AMG/M/S are pretty minor upgrade when you look at Buggati Veryon, Ferrari Enzo or Mclaren. Do you think Honda cannot do it when it has co developed Jet engine with GE? and iis world first fully carbon fibre aircraft. composite and robotics technology is light years in Japan than what is Italy and Germany.
All these cars have much less techical complexity than Honda and Yamaha (Engine supplier to Toyota) can produce. They just dont want to for business reason. Now they are going to implement electric hybrid with AWD. and it will be much better than old turbo charger.
All these cars have much less techical complexity than Honda and Yamaha (Engine supplier to Toyota) can produce. They just dont want to for business reason. Now they are going to implement electric hybrid with AWD. and it will be much better than old turbo charger.
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Okay...at this point, I know you're just trying to be comedic. Nice one.
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You're almost as bad as my Miami Heat and Apple supremacy myopia.
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Argument over. Like I said, it's like my Miami LeHeat comments about them winning the next 234134120412047821094708214 Titles.
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omagerd!!! errrresssixxxx arvant
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In the new Audi RS6 Avant, the twin-turbo V8 delivers confidence-inspiring power in every driving situation from its displacement of 3,993 cc. Peak output of 412 kW (560 hp) is reached between 5,700 and 6,700 rpm, with a constant 700 Nm (516.29 lb-ft) of torque available between 1,750 and 5,500 rpm.
Pulling power develops quickly due in large part to the two large twin-scroll turbochargers. They are mounted together with the intercooler in the inside V of the cylinder banks. The exhaust side of the cylinder heads is also on the inside, the intake side outside. This concept allows for a compact design and short gas paths with minimal flow losses.
The RS-specific engine management and unthrottled intake system also contribute to the eight-cylinder engine's spontaneous response. The 4.0 TFSI delivers a sporty, full-throated sound. Switchable flaps in the exhaust system make the sound even fuller, if desired. Audi also offers an optional sport exhaust system.
The powerful twin-turbo V8 accelerates the new Audi RS6 Avant from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in a best-in-segment 3.9 seconds. In the standard configuration, top speed is electronically limited to 250 km/h (155.34 mph). This is increased to 280 km/h (173.98 mph) with the optional Dynamic package. With the Dynamic plus package, Audi reigns in the engine only upon reaching 305 km/h (189.52 mph). According to the European driving cycle, the high-performance Avant consumes on average just 9.8 liters of fuel per 100 km (24.00 US mpg). Among the factors contributing to this figure are the new, standard start-stop system and innovative thermal management. Fuel consumption has been reduced by roughly 40 percent compared to the previous model.
One pioneering efficiency technology in the new Audi RS6 Avant is the cylinder on demand (COD) system. At low to intermediate loads and engine speeds, it shuts down the intake and exhaust valves of cylinders 2, 3, 5 and 8. The 4.0 TFSI then runs as a four-cylinder engine until the driver accelerates more strongly again. Efficiency in the active cylinders is increased because the operating points are displaced toward higher loads.
The changeover from four and eight-cylinder operation takes just a few hundredths of a second. About the only thing noticeable to the driver is an indication in the instrument cluster. The COD technology reduces ECE fuel consumption by roughly five percent. Even greater savings of approximately 10 percent are possible when driving at moderate speeds. Active engine bearings use out-of-phase counter-oscillations to compensate for the vibrations that occur during four-cylinder operation.
The 4.0 TFSI is paired with an eight-speed tiptronic featuring shortened shift times. The automatic transmission offers D and S modes. Drivers who wish to shift for themselves can use the shift paddles on the steering wheel or the selector lever, which sports a unique RS design. The lower gears of the tiptronic are tightly spaced for sporty performance, while a tall eighth gear reduces fuel consumption.
At the heart of the quattro permanent all-wheel drive system with torque vectoring is a self-locking center differential with an elevated locking value. An oil cooler regulates its temperature. If desired, the sport differential distributes the power steplessly between the rear wheels to further increase agility and stability.
The new RS6 Avant is the first RS model from Audi to come standard with a specifically tuned air suspension. The dynamic setup of the RS6 adaptive air suspension lowers the body by 20 millimeters (0.79 in). The system combines the air suspension with controlled damping and takes into account the road conditions, the driving style and the mode chosen in the driving dynamics system Audi drive select, with which the driver can influence the function of key components in multiple steps.
Audi also offers the tauter sport suspension plus with Dynamic Ride Control (DRC) as an alternative to the RS6 adaptive air suspension. This system uses steel springs and three-way adjustable shock absorbers that are interconnected diagonally by means of oil lines and a central valve for improved body roll stability. Another option is dynamic steering, which features steplessly variable steering boost and ratios. This system can also be integrated into Audi drive select and, just like the standard electromechanical power steering, is tailored specifically for the Audi RS6 Avant.
The brakes offer uncompromising performance. The four internally vented discs feature a weight-saving wave design with a wave-like outer contour. The front discs measure 390 millimeters (15.35 in) in diameter and are gripped by black, six-piston calipers. Customers can also opt for red brake calipers. Also available as an option are carbon fiber-ceramic brake discs measuring 420 millimeters (16.54 in) in diameter. Their calipers are painted anthracite gray. The electronic stabilization control (ESC) has a Sport mode and can also be deactivated entirely.
The new Audi RS6 Avant comes standard with high-gloss, 20-inch, forged wheels in a seven twin-spoke design. Optional 21-inch cast wheels are available in three versions: high-gloss silver, polished black and polished titanium-look.
The body plays a major role in the handling. It is roughly 20 percent aluminum and includes numerous components made of high-strength steel. The new Audi RS6 Avant weighs roughly 100 kilograms (220.46 lb) lighter than its predecessor. The improved power-to-weight ratio contributes to even better handling with improved performance coupled with reduced fuel consumption.
Pulling power develops quickly due in large part to the two large twin-scroll turbochargers. They are mounted together with the intercooler in the inside V of the cylinder banks. The exhaust side of the cylinder heads is also on the inside, the intake side outside. This concept allows for a compact design and short gas paths with minimal flow losses.
The RS-specific engine management and unthrottled intake system also contribute to the eight-cylinder engine's spontaneous response. The 4.0 TFSI delivers a sporty, full-throated sound. Switchable flaps in the exhaust system make the sound even fuller, if desired. Audi also offers an optional sport exhaust system.
The powerful twin-turbo V8 accelerates the new Audi RS6 Avant from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in a best-in-segment 3.9 seconds. In the standard configuration, top speed is electronically limited to 250 km/h (155.34 mph). This is increased to 280 km/h (173.98 mph) with the optional Dynamic package. With the Dynamic plus package, Audi reigns in the engine only upon reaching 305 km/h (189.52 mph). According to the European driving cycle, the high-performance Avant consumes on average just 9.8 liters of fuel per 100 km (24.00 US mpg). Among the factors contributing to this figure are the new, standard start-stop system and innovative thermal management. Fuel consumption has been reduced by roughly 40 percent compared to the previous model.
One pioneering efficiency technology in the new Audi RS6 Avant is the cylinder on demand (COD) system. At low to intermediate loads and engine speeds, it shuts down the intake and exhaust valves of cylinders 2, 3, 5 and 8. The 4.0 TFSI then runs as a four-cylinder engine until the driver accelerates more strongly again. Efficiency in the active cylinders is increased because the operating points are displaced toward higher loads.
The changeover from four and eight-cylinder operation takes just a few hundredths of a second. About the only thing noticeable to the driver is an indication in the instrument cluster. The COD technology reduces ECE fuel consumption by roughly five percent. Even greater savings of approximately 10 percent are possible when driving at moderate speeds. Active engine bearings use out-of-phase counter-oscillations to compensate for the vibrations that occur during four-cylinder operation.
The 4.0 TFSI is paired with an eight-speed tiptronic featuring shortened shift times. The automatic transmission offers D and S modes. Drivers who wish to shift for themselves can use the shift paddles on the steering wheel or the selector lever, which sports a unique RS design. The lower gears of the tiptronic are tightly spaced for sporty performance, while a tall eighth gear reduces fuel consumption.
At the heart of the quattro permanent all-wheel drive system with torque vectoring is a self-locking center differential with an elevated locking value. An oil cooler regulates its temperature. If desired, the sport differential distributes the power steplessly between the rear wheels to further increase agility and stability.
The new RS6 Avant is the first RS model from Audi to come standard with a specifically tuned air suspension. The dynamic setup of the RS6 adaptive air suspension lowers the body by 20 millimeters (0.79 in). The system combines the air suspension with controlled damping and takes into account the road conditions, the driving style and the mode chosen in the driving dynamics system Audi drive select, with which the driver can influence the function of key components in multiple steps.
Audi also offers the tauter sport suspension plus with Dynamic Ride Control (DRC) as an alternative to the RS6 adaptive air suspension. This system uses steel springs and three-way adjustable shock absorbers that are interconnected diagonally by means of oil lines and a central valve for improved body roll stability. Another option is dynamic steering, which features steplessly variable steering boost and ratios. This system can also be integrated into Audi drive select and, just like the standard electromechanical power steering, is tailored specifically for the Audi RS6 Avant.
The brakes offer uncompromising performance. The four internally vented discs feature a weight-saving wave design with a wave-like outer contour. The front discs measure 390 millimeters (15.35 in) in diameter and are gripped by black, six-piston calipers. Customers can also opt for red brake calipers. Also available as an option are carbon fiber-ceramic brake discs measuring 420 millimeters (16.54 in) in diameter. Their calipers are painted anthracite gray. The electronic stabilization control (ESC) has a Sport mode and can also be deactivated entirely.
The new Audi RS6 Avant comes standard with high-gloss, 20-inch, forged wheels in a seven twin-spoke design. Optional 21-inch cast wheels are available in three versions: high-gloss silver, polished black and polished titanium-look.
The body plays a major role in the handling. It is roughly 20 percent aluminum and includes numerous components made of high-strength steel. The new Audi RS6 Avant weighs roughly 100 kilograms (220.46 lb) lighter than its predecessor. The improved power-to-weight ratio contributes to even better handling with improved performance coupled with reduced fuel consumption.
Last edited by MTEAZY; 12-04-2012 at 07:27 PM.
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Love the front end and the interior. I miss the slightly boxy rear flares though from the last one.
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Mmmm do want
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#552
Some dude
Love everything about it expect the extremely over-sized "quattro."
#553
Is this any better? (No, not the cool guy with the pointy shoes)
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#555
I'd give my left nut for one of those.
@ those bubble wrap looking seats ![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
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I'm not feeling the seat inserts as well BUT, it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I were in the market for a high end sports wagon.
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#557
They're probably really comfortable though.
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#559
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Oh and
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#560
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Seats leave something to be desired i guess but Lambo uses similar designed seats so i guess if its good enough for lambo its good enough for Audi
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