Audi: A5, S5, RS5 News
#323
Suzuka Master
now I know what to get after my 335. That car is gorgeous in every sense of the word. The lines are stunning. In every colors, she's hot. And with the surround sound in the theater, the Hitman gave me a nice preview of that V8 noise
I really don't think that car can look any better, that's why I'm anxious to see the RS version
I really don't think that car can look any better, that's why I'm anxious to see the RS version
Last edited by nokiaman; 12-05-2007 at 11:14 PM.
#325
Suzuka Master
^ Agreed. I find the A6 and A8 way better looking than the 5 and 7. However BMW will always win critics and be the sportiest ones. But in luxurious words, Audi makes the stylish cars for me, ahead of Benz and Bimmers
#327
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
i so want one...
#329
Suzuka Master
^A canadian A5?? Wow didn't know they were out and rolling already! Post the pics up please!
#330
Three Wheelin'
Sorry, should've specified he's in San Jose. I believe they're not that common out there yet either as a lot of heads were being turned as he was driving by. I've got only pics from his garage so far, will post them up in a few minutes.
#331
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The guy I went to lunch with yesterday saw one the other day cruising around in the small town where he lives. I'm surprised I haven't seen one near where I live...only a matter of time, I'm sure...can't wait, either.
#332
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Rumourmill... Yummy not trying to give you more work, this article just had both cars...
dang the TT is gettin some love finally...
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_3770.shtml
dang the TT is gettin some love finally...
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_3770.shtml
Audi RS5 and TTRS Revealed: All We Know about Audi’s RS Coupes
Feb 14, 2008
by: George Achorn, renderings: George Achorn with RS5 Photo Editing by Larson
The R8 may be getting all the press as of late, but Audi’s not done with their growing performance lineup by a longshot. Several weeks ago, quattro GmbH’s director Werner Frowein confirmed to Auto Motor und Sport that his wing of Audi would be stepping up its work for 2008. The current RS 4’s retirement may be imminent, but production of the R8, RS 6 and upcoming Q7 V12 TDI will keep his team busy. So too will new projects, and two of these expected expansion models are the much-anticipated TTRS and RS5 coupes.
In the same Auto Motor und Sport piece, Frowein mentioned that the previous brew period of four years into a six year model cycle would shorten to two in the future. RS versions of both the TT and the A5/S5 have both been spotted undergoing testing, and Frowein’s math should put a TTRS on a show stand by as early as Paris in September and an RS5 sometime in 2009. Such a rapid launch plan should mean little sleep for the boys at quattro GmbH.
TTRS
Rumors of the hottest TT variant ever are rampant. Several theories on drivetrain have resulted, though our money is on a turbocharged five cylinder. Volkswagen already does a low cost and lower capacity 5-cylinder with 2.5-liters, though an Audi version sharing very little with the base VW engine will be a considerably more costly and possibly a different displacement (we’ve heard 2.3-liters from one source) – built up to meet a power rating of 350-hp says a high-ranking source from Audi in Germany.
What else can we guess about the engine? FSI is a certainty, and Audi’s new Valvelift system is likely – aiding in both torque and fuel economy. 2.0T engines we’ve driven with the same FSI/Valvelift setup are burgeoning with torque and we expect no different from the TTRS’ five cylinder.
A turbocharged five-cylinder Audi engine in a performance coupe certainly pays homage to the original Quattro, though the TT’s transverse engine layout lower and closer to the center of the chassis, aluminum body structure and computer-controlled Haldex-sourced version of quattro will make it a decidedly different beast than the boxy Audi icon.
As far as U.S. sale, sources have informed us that the plan is to currently include the TTRS in the American mix. The current plan for DSG-only in the States for the recently announced TTS is likely a hint that a manual-transmission TTRS is the likely shifting choice for the RS.
Our TTRS rendering shows what the car might look like if it were launched today. Audi has been known to share design language across its sub brands and the RS nomenclature is no different. This TTRS mockup uses a similar nose and sill extensions from the latest RS6, along with the car’s 5-spoke alloys with Titanium Package finish. It’s also Avus Silver Metallic – a color Audi usually reserves for RS duty.
RS5
Details on the RS5 are less known, but strong theories are out there. S5 mules have been spotted testing in Europe well after the S5’s launch, and with the trademark RS oval tailpipes. They’re likely RS5 mules and we even hear that there may be an RS5 mule high altitude testing in America.
Print magazines have hinted at a number of engine directions – from the RS4’s high-revving 4.2-liter V8 carryover to the twin-turbocharged V10 of the RS 6 and everything in between. Here’s a quick rundown, supported with our own theories and comments shared by sources at Audi.
1. V10 Twin Turbo – This is an unlikely choice. Fitted in the RS 6, the engine forces pricing of the A6 variant into six-figure territory. Packaging might also prove difficult as the already sizeable V10 also has the turbo system’s plumbing.
2. V10 Normally Aspirated – The most recent issue of Road & Track raised this scenario. The American print magazine said sources close to the book have stated that Audi is working on a high-revving V10 FSI – what the RS4 4.2 is to normal 4.2 FSI, this engine would be to the S8’s V10. R&T’s suggestion points toward a shared approach with the upcoming R8 V10. That scenario doesn’t sound totally unbelievable and, should Audi be able to hit the magical100 hp/liter mark of the RS4, that would mean 520 hp. Still, one source at Audi says the V10’s fitment in the S5 chassis is unlikely but wouldn’t rule it out.
3. Forced Induction 4.2-liter FSI – Utter those words and people will immediately think of the last-generation RS6 and its twin turbo V8. The UK’s Car Magazine seems to think this scenario is most likely, suggesting 450 hp and 500 ft-lbs. of would could come from a mildly turboed RS4 engine.
Our own sources say this is unlikely in the details. First, the RS4’s high-revving setup likely wouldn’t get forced induction. Figure something more like the S5’s 4.2 FSI. If the next-generation S4 is supercharged says that source, then figure the lessons learned might be applied to other engines also. Fit a supercharger to the S5’s engine and the power figures suggested by Car aren’t out of reach.
4. V8 Normally Aspirated, RS4-spec – At 420 hp from 4.2-liters, the RS 4 engine is by far no slouch. Top Gear’s Jeremy Clarkson has raved about the mill, saying it might just be one of the best engines ever. Carrying over the engine lock, stock and barrel from the outgoing RS 4 is another possible scenario. No, it’s nothing new, but it’s still great and would be a ton of fun in the better-balanced B8-chassis coupe.
At this point, it’s a bit to0 early to make the call. Options 2, 3, and 4 all seem like believable scenarios, so we’ll hold off on betting the farm on which will get the nod just yet. One thing’s for sure, any one of the four would be formidable with the platform, Audi Drive Select and the next-generation torque-vectoring quattro.
As with the TTRS, the RS5 rendering above shows how the upcoming car might appear if it were launched today. The latest RS design language from the RS6 such as the nose, wheels, ur Quattro-inspired blister fenders and more have been applied to the A5’s lithe silhouette. It all looks fantastic in Audi’s Ibis White with titanium finish on the RS6 alloys.
Feb 14, 2008
by: George Achorn, renderings: George Achorn with RS5 Photo Editing by Larson
The R8 may be getting all the press as of late, but Audi’s not done with their growing performance lineup by a longshot. Several weeks ago, quattro GmbH’s director Werner Frowein confirmed to Auto Motor und Sport that his wing of Audi would be stepping up its work for 2008. The current RS 4’s retirement may be imminent, but production of the R8, RS 6 and upcoming Q7 V12 TDI will keep his team busy. So too will new projects, and two of these expected expansion models are the much-anticipated TTRS and RS5 coupes.
In the same Auto Motor und Sport piece, Frowein mentioned that the previous brew period of four years into a six year model cycle would shorten to two in the future. RS versions of both the TT and the A5/S5 have both been spotted undergoing testing, and Frowein’s math should put a TTRS on a show stand by as early as Paris in September and an RS5 sometime in 2009. Such a rapid launch plan should mean little sleep for the boys at quattro GmbH.
TTRS
Rumors of the hottest TT variant ever are rampant. Several theories on drivetrain have resulted, though our money is on a turbocharged five cylinder. Volkswagen already does a low cost and lower capacity 5-cylinder with 2.5-liters, though an Audi version sharing very little with the base VW engine will be a considerably more costly and possibly a different displacement (we’ve heard 2.3-liters from one source) – built up to meet a power rating of 350-hp says a high-ranking source from Audi in Germany.
What else can we guess about the engine? FSI is a certainty, and Audi’s new Valvelift system is likely – aiding in both torque and fuel economy. 2.0T engines we’ve driven with the same FSI/Valvelift setup are burgeoning with torque and we expect no different from the TTRS’ five cylinder.
A turbocharged five-cylinder Audi engine in a performance coupe certainly pays homage to the original Quattro, though the TT’s transverse engine layout lower and closer to the center of the chassis, aluminum body structure and computer-controlled Haldex-sourced version of quattro will make it a decidedly different beast than the boxy Audi icon.
As far as U.S. sale, sources have informed us that the plan is to currently include the TTRS in the American mix. The current plan for DSG-only in the States for the recently announced TTS is likely a hint that a manual-transmission TTRS is the likely shifting choice for the RS.
Our TTRS rendering shows what the car might look like if it were launched today. Audi has been known to share design language across its sub brands and the RS nomenclature is no different. This TTRS mockup uses a similar nose and sill extensions from the latest RS6, along with the car’s 5-spoke alloys with Titanium Package finish. It’s also Avus Silver Metallic – a color Audi usually reserves for RS duty.
RS5
Details on the RS5 are less known, but strong theories are out there. S5 mules have been spotted testing in Europe well after the S5’s launch, and with the trademark RS oval tailpipes. They’re likely RS5 mules and we even hear that there may be an RS5 mule high altitude testing in America.
Print magazines have hinted at a number of engine directions – from the RS4’s high-revving 4.2-liter V8 carryover to the twin-turbocharged V10 of the RS 6 and everything in between. Here’s a quick rundown, supported with our own theories and comments shared by sources at Audi.
1. V10 Twin Turbo – This is an unlikely choice. Fitted in the RS 6, the engine forces pricing of the A6 variant into six-figure territory. Packaging might also prove difficult as the already sizeable V10 also has the turbo system’s plumbing.
2. V10 Normally Aspirated – The most recent issue of Road & Track raised this scenario. The American print magazine said sources close to the book have stated that Audi is working on a high-revving V10 FSI – what the RS4 4.2 is to normal 4.2 FSI, this engine would be to the S8’s V10. R&T’s suggestion points toward a shared approach with the upcoming R8 V10. That scenario doesn’t sound totally unbelievable and, should Audi be able to hit the magical100 hp/liter mark of the RS4, that would mean 520 hp. Still, one source at Audi says the V10’s fitment in the S5 chassis is unlikely but wouldn’t rule it out.
3. Forced Induction 4.2-liter FSI – Utter those words and people will immediately think of the last-generation RS6 and its twin turbo V8. The UK’s Car Magazine seems to think this scenario is most likely, suggesting 450 hp and 500 ft-lbs. of would could come from a mildly turboed RS4 engine.
Our own sources say this is unlikely in the details. First, the RS4’s high-revving setup likely wouldn’t get forced induction. Figure something more like the S5’s 4.2 FSI. If the next-generation S4 is supercharged says that source, then figure the lessons learned might be applied to other engines also. Fit a supercharger to the S5’s engine and the power figures suggested by Car aren’t out of reach.
4. V8 Normally Aspirated, RS4-spec – At 420 hp from 4.2-liters, the RS 4 engine is by far no slouch. Top Gear’s Jeremy Clarkson has raved about the mill, saying it might just be one of the best engines ever. Carrying over the engine lock, stock and barrel from the outgoing RS 4 is another possible scenario. No, it’s nothing new, but it’s still great and would be a ton of fun in the better-balanced B8-chassis coupe.
At this point, it’s a bit to0 early to make the call. Options 2, 3, and 4 all seem like believable scenarios, so we’ll hold off on betting the farm on which will get the nod just yet. One thing’s for sure, any one of the four would be formidable with the platform, Audi Drive Select and the next-generation torque-vectoring quattro.
As with the TTRS, the RS5 rendering above shows how the upcoming car might appear if it were launched today. The latest RS design language from the RS6 such as the nose, wheels, ur Quattro-inspired blister fenders and more have been applied to the A5’s lithe silhouette. It all looks fantastic in Audi’s Ibis White with titanium finish on the RS6 alloys.
#334
Senior Moderator
daaaaaaaaaaamn.. didn't know the A5 gets the LED front's too.. I guess the only 5 we have really heard about is the S5.. I mean, actually I didn't even know there was an A5. hehe wow look at that interior..
#335
Senior Moderator
Dayum...that is one hawt car your bro has, uzzmaan...!
#336
Three Wheelin'
I swear I've already started planning my next trip out to San Jose. I can't stop drooling. I'm probably gonna end up buying the A4 in a year or so, so at least it will look somewhat similar to this.
#341
Three Wheelin'
those are definitely some mean looking wheels. i was just going over the configurators at the audi USA and audi Canada sites, and looks like at the moment Canada is only getting the 6spd manual and less options for wheels.
#344
Suzuka Master
I need this car!! Those lines will never look old...
Last edited by nokiaman; 02-15-2008 at 07:05 PM.
#345
Senior Moderator
the white one is an S-line?
#346
Three Wheelin'
the one my brother got? i dont think so, but he mentioned something like a lot of the s-line options were on there. don't really know the full details of options yet
#347
Senior Moderator
just wondering wth charliemike is talkin about...
#349
Stunning. I think I'm getting one of these within in two years. I at least have to get my moneys worth out the TL(only 51k on it). Although I am curious to see what the 09 TL will have in store.
These have begun hitting dealership floors early. I believe they are releasing the auto A5's sooner than intended also. There was one listed for sale the other day with around a 10k markup or more, but I just checked, and the car is no longer for sale. I wonder if someone bought they could have had an S5 for around that kind of coin.
These have begun hitting dealership floors early. I believe they are releasing the auto A5's sooner than intended also. There was one listed for sale the other day with around a 10k markup or more, but I just checked, and the car is no longer for sale. I wonder if someone bought they could have had an S5 for around that kind of coin.
#351
Originally Posted by Ol Blue Eyes
It doesn't look as if that has the s line package on it.
I think it has the S line tires and wheels which I believe can be ordered separately. Although I am seeing a different configurator than I saw a few days ago, and I don't see the option for the A5 s line wheels now. Those tire specs meet the s line package details, and the wheels certainly sound like they are the right ones also.
From Audiusa.com
"19" Five-arm Y-design wheels with 255/35-R19 summer"
#352
Senior Moderator
yea - I thought there is a special "S-line" badging and I don't see it on the white car, hence my doubt.. of course this doesn't change the fact that the car is flippin' SWEET.
#353
Originally Posted by srika
yea - I thought there is a special "S-line" badging and I don't see it on the white car, hence my doubt.. of course this doesn't change the fact that the car is flippin' SWEET.
Yes and Yes.
#355
Senior Moderator
no probs
#357
Originally Posted by Loseit
would you guys buy an a5 over a 335?
just wondering
just wondering
I saw one a couple days ago on the road....Those LED headlights look so damn intimidating...even in sunlight. It really makes the car pop out of the crowd.
#358
Fahrvergnügen'd
Originally Posted by Loseit
would you guys buy an a5 over a 335?
just wondering
just wondering
But the free maintenance does make the BMW compelling. And Audi isn't exactly Lexus in reliability.
I have re-written all of this a couple of times and I think that my conclusion is that I'd get a base S5 over a 335i with a lot of options and get an A5 S-Line with a lot of options over a 335i with fewer ones.
Then again, if I were leasing, the Audis would be a no-brainer. I love the 335i but my heart has belonged to Audi for a while.
#360
What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by Loseit
would you guys buy an a5 over a 335?
just wondering
just wondering
i can go back and forth all day.
like charliemike said, depending on how much i can spend, yes, i'd take a loaded A5 over a bare 335.
but no question. S5 over the 335.
M3? i dunno....