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Old 09-10-2004, 04:14 PM
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That grille with a front plate in the US states where it's required = ugly baby tooth looking grille.
Other than that... feh, it's ok.
I'd rather get an M3.
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personally, id rather have the 2004 model. im not a big fan yet of the new headlights and taillights, i love the current A4 design. but the new interior trim and navigation very nice.
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Can't say it looks any more exciting than the standard a4.
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That S4 looks very aggresive. Nice, the seats are incredible looking. Small car with a V-8=tits.
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looks like a Hyundai now. the 2004 model looked 100x better...
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Originally Posted by jimcol711
personally, id rather have the 2004 model. im not a big fan yet of the new headlights and taillights, i love the current A4 design. but the new interior trim and navigation very nice.
JIM.... we agree on something.
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Old 09-10-2004, 08:27 PM
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This car is a best. I like the front, luv the "Get the Fuck Out of My Way" look. Still warming up to the rear taillamps.
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i love the new front, very aggressive
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I love that car. It's.... absolutely disgustingly awesome.
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I have a feeling that when we all see this car live, we'll be awed.
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the new audi steering wheel is causing them to lose many customers
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Old 09-12-2004, 08:59 PM
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I would take this way before this new one
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^ looks boring.
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I would take this way before this new one



1. the tail lights on the new1's are horrible, reminds me of a civic 4-door and a saturn for some reason..

2. they need S4 stitched in to the head rest

3. jst take everything inside the new1 and put it in the older one =
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
3. jst take everything inside the new1 and put it in the older one =

Its basicly the same interior sir. Steering wheel is different, thats it.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Its basicly the same interior sir. Steering wheel is different, thats it.

i'm referring to the performance....sorry for not being specific
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Old 09-13-2004, 09:54 PM
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http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...irstdrive.1g.*

We don't usually expect much from a midcycle refresh, but the newly restyled A4 far exceeded expectations. For while they showed us the attendant new sheet metal (and its controversial new grille) along with some swiveling headlamps, there was incredible depth to the changes for 2006 that really make the '06 a whole new car rather than a mere mid-model reskin.

For one thing, the suspension has been upgraded substantially. The front end has been revised with numerous components — including the track rods — from the high-performance S4 while the rear comes in for even more revision with links and wheel carriers from the S4 and shock absorbers from the A6. But the really, really big news lies under the hood with Audi releasing not just one, but two new direct-injection gasoline engines.

The first replaces the venerable 1.8T as the new base engine in the A4. Already one of the best engines in the lineup, the new four grows to 2.0 liters and is equipped with a direct injection system. The result, says Audi, is 200 horsepower (up from 170) and 207 pound-feet of torque (up from 166) over an amazingly broad rev range that stretches from 1,800 rpm to 5,000.

And it is that flexibility that impresses more than the gain of 30 hp. The 1.8T was already known for performing a fair impression of a V6, but the new 2.0T FSI (as in Fuel Straight Injection) is all but indistinguishable from a raft of supposedly more sophisticated sixes. Part of the credit goes to Audi's FSI technology, which sees the injectors squirt fuel directly into the combustion chamber rather than into the intake manifold. Because there is less tendency toward detonation (that nasty pinging noise you get when you put cheap gas into a high-performance engine), the 2.0T FSI works with an abnormally high compression ratio of 10.5 to 1. The result, as any hot-rodder knows, is better low-end torque which the 2.0T has in spades. For the record, Audi claims the 2.0T hustles the A4 to 60 miles per hour in just 7.1 seconds (0.7 second quicker than the 1.8T).

The other change that Audi made, along with the boost in displacement, was to add twin balance shafts that spin at twice the engine speed. The result is that what little vibration there was on the old engine has virtually been eradicated. Also gone is the typical four-cylinder thrashiness at high revs. The 1.8T has long been our favorite Volkswagen/Audi engine. The revisions to the new four-banger just reinforce that feeling. You really don't need more engine than this but Audi didn't stop there.

The larger 3.2-liter V6 also makes great gains. Long the weak point in Audi's lineup, the company's previous mid-displacement V6s have lacked for torque and had only middling horsepower. Because it's also gained from the FSI technology (developed by Audi, by the way, for its Le Mans-winning RS8 racers), the naturally aspirated, four-valve 3.2-liter 90-degree V6 gets a phenomenally high 12.5-to-1 compression ratio. That's good enough to squeeze 255 hp (an increase of 35 over the outgoing 3.0L) from the 3.2L, and more importantly, 243 lb-ft of torque (up from 221).

Both these numbers are less of an upgrade than the boost in the four-banger. Ditto for the acceleration times which are now 6.5 seconds for the 3.2L versus 6.9 for the outgoing 3.0L. Nonetheless, the new V6 feels like it has quite a bit more torque than the old engine, no longer needing revs above 3,500 to make significant progress. It still loves to rev; it just doesn't need to.

It may even prove a little overeager for some. Perhaps, it's the direct fuel injection, or maybe it's Audi engineers tuning the drive-by-wire throttle for enthusiastic response, but the V6's response to minute inputs can be a trifle abrupt. Sometimes, when you just want a smidgen of acceleration, the 3.2 will throw in an extra dollop, free of charge. It's never truly disconcerting but it certainly does require a little recalibration of your right foot. Nonetheless, the new 3.2L is an improvement of some margin over the outgoing V6.

Both engines are now hooked up to six-speeds, both manual and automatic. Because all A4s coming to the United States are quattros, there will be no Multitronic CVT option as Audi has only engineered that transmission for its front-wheel-drive cars. However, the DSG paddle-shift tranny that was first shown in the TT is currently being developed for the A4. As for which tranny is best for the A4, the automatic seemed better suited to the new engines in our opinion. It lessens the impression of what little turbo lag the 2.0T has and smoothes out the 3.2L V6 a little as well. Besides, if you want to shift manually, there's always the Tiptronic alternative.

Depending on the road, the new A4 comes off as either superlative or merely very good. We were lucky enough to test the A4 over a variety of changing road surfaces. Under such conditions, the A4 is marvelous. Its long-travel feels relatively soft (compared to a Bimmer or Merc), soaking up midcorner bumps that would leave lesser cars flouncing and bouncing. On flatter stretches, though, that same suspension tuning limits cornering. Not as flat through high-speed esses as a 3 Series, the A4 also pushes the front end more than the rear-drive BMW.

Inside, there's less change. Audi brags about a new steering wheel and a new navigation system, but there's nothing remarkable about either. Regarding the relative lack of interior improvement, Audi's materials have been the best in the luxury segment for some years now, so the same-ol', same-ol' is actually plenty good enough.

Which means that the A4 is going to be better competition for BMW, certainly at least until the new 3 Series shows up (and if BMW's design chief, Chris Bangle, has his way perhaps for some time after). That's helped out by Audi's contention that the new A4's pricing won't increase more than 0.5 percent over the current model which ranges from $25,800 for the 1.8T to a starting point for the V6 of $31,500.





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Old 09-13-2004, 09:55 PM
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damn you audi! My car aint even a year old and you do this to me!
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Old 09-14-2004, 04:17 PM
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I blame you. You were the one who talked me into buyign the A4.
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:14 PM
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but when is this car going to be sold? The 05's just arrived at the dealers so I'm guessing it's at least a year off right? Also, being that this is an Audi...not sure i'd want to have the first model year of a new engine (ref coil packs/sludge for the 1.8t and engine failures with the 04' S4).
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Those are some substantial mid-year upgrades. I think this bodystyle may last a little longer than usual
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Old 09-15-2004, 05:50 PM
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ya i find it kind of weird they made all these changes so soon after the release of the current gen a4/s4. i like the current one A LOT better. and yea i agree with whoever said they should bust out a coupe. i know the s4 already competes with the m3 but a coupe s4 id die for
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i fucking love this car...

i want to mod one

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i agree. i think it looks pretty damn good. too bad i can't wait for it.
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So what does the TL have that this doesnt?


http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...icle_740.shtml


The new DVD-navigation system is one of the more interesting new technologies for North American B7 models. A common attribute of DVD-based systems is that all 50 states can fit on one DVD, versus regional discs for CD based systems. Additionally, customers will be able to spec either Sirius or XM satellite radio equipped units.

With the navigation system, the head-unit can no longer house the internal 6-disc CD changer. For that reason, an external 6-disc changer will be mounted in the glovebox. If that’s not enough, the DVD-based navigation units will also be capable of accepting up to two SD cards.

SD cards are a new industry standard intended for networking digital media, from computers and digital cameras to PDAs and your new Audi. Music can be moved from your computer to the car with ease. The SD Card Association website claims that more than 665 companies around the world have adopted SD technology and that high-capacity 2, 4 and 8 GB cards are on their way to market shortly.

A4 option packages will include:

Premium Package
- Sunroof
- HomeLink
- Color Trip Computer
- Power Front Seats (2.0T)
- Leather Seating Surfaces (2.0T)
- Driver Seat Memory and Mirrors (3.2)

Audi Package
- Bose Premium Sound system
- US: Satellite Radio (XM or Sirius)

Cold Weather Package
- Ski Sack
- Headlamp Washers (3.2)
- Front and Rear Heated Seats

Sport Package
- Sport Suspension
- 17” 5-spoke “double spoke” design

Lighting Package
- New design bi-xenon headlamps and advanced front lighting
- Interior auto dimming, compass/exterior folding, dimming mirrors
- Rain/light sensor

Audi A4 standalone options will include:

Full-screen DVD navigation & glovebox CD Changer
- “MMI-like” controls within unit, SD card inserts (2)
- XXX (will Satellite radio work with these?)

Premium Leather (3.2 Only)

Wood Interior Trim
- 2.0T - walnut
- 3.2 - walnut or varona

Tire Pressure Monitoring System

Headlamp Washers (2.0T)

Rear Side Airbags

Bluetooth Phone Prep with Voice Control (Fall 2005)
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no ultra sport pkg?
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Hi, Audi ... It's 2004 ... 3" LCD Navi screens are so 2002 ... and the placement of it SUCKS.
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werd. even the tsx got a 7"
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"Inside, there's less change. Audi brags about a new steering wheel and a new navigation system, but there's nothing remarkable about either."

But it does look f'in sweet, aside from the placement of the screen.
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I agree with the screen, it should be bigger. But if you are getting directions from it then it also pops up on that center computer. So you have two places to glance at.
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i love it too. might be my next car. i hope the S-Line model's come with different bumpers though. i dont like how they designed the fogs with the line going thru em
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good call, with awd, the tl is good competition to ze germans now
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good call, with awd, the tl is good competition to ze germans now


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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout

And it is that flexibility that impresses more than the gain of 30 hp. The 1.8T was already known for performing a fair impression of a V6, but the new 2.0T FSI (as in Fuel Straight Injection) is all but indistinguishable from a raft of supposedly more sophisticated sixes.
I thought the "S" in FSI stands for Stratified.
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