Aston Martin: Vantage News
#41
Thankfully Ford has left Aston alone to do it's own thing. I guess to folks that are well off the $30K+ diff between the 911 and this Vantage is considered small enough to still be in the same catagory.
#42
Originally Posted by biker
Thankfully Ford has left Aston alone to do it's own thing. I guess to folks that are well off the $30K+ diff between the 911 and this Vantage is considered small enough to still be in the same catagory.
#44
Aston Martin tests hot V8 Vantage in Germany, takes aim at new 911 - - By JULIAN RENDELL - - Source: Autoexpress
(All photos by John Johnson)
PROTOTYPES OF ASTON MARTIN’S V8 Vantage sports car are turning hot laps at Germany’s Nürburgring a year ahead of launch.
The alloy-structured two-seater, aimed squarely at Porsche’s new 997 version of the 911 (AW, July 19), is engineered to compete head-to-head with the German icon as much on handling and performance as on badge credibility.
In styling terms, the V8 Vantage is very similar to the Henrik Fisker-penned concept car that claimed AutoWeek editors’ Most Fun award at the 2003 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Fisker, Aston’s design chief, also leads Ford’s new advanced design studio in California.
Under the alloy body is a shortened version of the chassis under the new DB9 coupe (AW, May 17) with the windshield, firewall and rear structure all carried over from the DB9. About 3.5 inches are chopped out of the wheelbase and the front and rear overhangs are tightened.
As befits its name, the V8 Vantage opts for a V8 in place of the DB9’s V12. Although genetically related to Jaguar’s AJ-V8, Aston has significantly re-engineered the Jag powerplant to 4.3-liters with unique machining of block and cylinder heads, new crank, rods, pistons and dry-sump lubrication. Output is estimated at between 350 and 400 hp.
Italian gearbox specialist Graziano supplies the six-speed rear transaxle, which is shared with the DB9.
A conventional stick shift will be standard with paddle shift manual/auto control an option. The DB9’s smooth six-speed automatic won’t be available in the V8.
With the new 997 in Aston’s sights, the V8 targets the Porsche’s 182-mph top speed and its 4.8-second 0-to-60-mph time, but with an estimated sticker of $110,000, the Brit sports car will carry a significantly higher price tag. Still, Aston’s order book is said to be full, with at least the first year’s production sold out ahead of the May 2005 launch.
(All photos by John Johnson)
PROTOTYPES OF ASTON MARTIN’S V8 Vantage sports car are turning hot laps at Germany’s Nürburgring a year ahead of launch.
The alloy-structured two-seater, aimed squarely at Porsche’s new 997 version of the 911 (AW, July 19), is engineered to compete head-to-head with the German icon as much on handling and performance as on badge credibility.
In styling terms, the V8 Vantage is very similar to the Henrik Fisker-penned concept car that claimed AutoWeek editors’ Most Fun award at the 2003 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Fisker, Aston’s design chief, also leads Ford’s new advanced design studio in California.
Under the alloy body is a shortened version of the chassis under the new DB9 coupe (AW, May 17) with the windshield, firewall and rear structure all carried over from the DB9. About 3.5 inches are chopped out of the wheelbase and the front and rear overhangs are tightened.
As befits its name, the V8 Vantage opts for a V8 in place of the DB9’s V12. Although genetically related to Jaguar’s AJ-V8, Aston has significantly re-engineered the Jag powerplant to 4.3-liters with unique machining of block and cylinder heads, new crank, rods, pistons and dry-sump lubrication. Output is estimated at between 350 and 400 hp.
Italian gearbox specialist Graziano supplies the six-speed rear transaxle, which is shared with the DB9.
A conventional stick shift will be standard with paddle shift manual/auto control an option. The DB9’s smooth six-speed automatic won’t be available in the V8.
With the new 997 in Aston’s sights, the V8 targets the Porsche’s 182-mph top speed and its 4.8-second 0-to-60-mph time, but with an estimated sticker of $110,000, the Brit sports car will carry a significantly higher price tag. Still, Aston’s order book is said to be full, with at least the first year’s production sold out ahead of the May 2005 launch.
#46
#47
Spy Shots: ’06 Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage
click the link for the pics.... that thing looks sweet
http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&sid=178&n=158
http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&sid=178&n=158
Aston Martin is preparing to introduce a smaller and more affordable Aston Martin during the 2005 calendar year. Although sources are referring to this model as the DB8, European publications are speculating the car will carry the DB5 designation.
Powered by a 4.3-liter supercharged V-8, the DB8 is expected to have a minimum of 410 horsepower, and will be the first Aston Martin built on the new VH (vertical/horizontal) platform which will be the foundation for all future models.
More affordable? With pricing starting at a bit over $100,000, the Gaydon, U.K.- built Aston Martin will compete with the likes of Porsche and Ferrari. A roadster version will likely be available early in the 2007 model year.
Powered by a 4.3-liter supercharged V-8, the DB8 is expected to have a minimum of 410 horsepower, and will be the first Aston Martin built on the new VH (vertical/horizontal) platform which will be the foundation for all future models.
More affordable? With pricing starting at a bit over $100,000, the Gaydon, U.K.- built Aston Martin will compete with the likes of Porsche and Ferrari. A roadster version will likely be available early in the 2007 model year.
#49
*spied* Aston Martin tests hot V8 Vantage in Germany, takes aim at new 911
PROTOTYPES OF ASTON MARTIN’S V8 Vantage sports car are turning hot laps at Germany’s Nürburgring a year ahead of launch.
The alloy-structured two-seater, aimed squarely at Porsche’s new 997 version of the 911 (AW, July 19), is engineered to compete head-to-head with the German icon as much on handling and performance as on badge credibility.
In styling terms, the V8 Vantage is very similar to the Henrik Fisker-penned concept car that claimed AutoWeek editors’ Most Fun award at the 2003 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Fisker, Aston’s design chief, also leads Ford’s new advanced design studio in California.
Under the alloy body is a shortened version of the chassis under the new DB9 coupe (AW, May 17) with the windshield, firewall and rear structure all carried over from the DB9. About 3.5 inches are chopped out of the wheelbase and the front and rear overhangs are tightened.
As befits its name, the V8 Vantage opts for a V8 in place of the DB9’s V12. Although genetically related to Jaguar’s AJ-V8, Aston has significantly re-engineered the Jag powerplant to 4.3-liters with unique machining of block and cylinder heads, new crank, rods, pistons and dry-sump lubrication. Output is estimated at between 350 and 400 hp.
Italian gearbox specialist Graziano supplies the six-speed rear transaxle, which is shared with the DB9.
A conventional stick shift will be standard with paddle shift manual/auto control an option. The DB9’s smooth six-speed automatic won’t be available in the V8.
With the new 997 in Aston’s sights, the V8 targets the Porsche’s 182-mph top speed and its 4.8-second 0-to-60-mph time, but with an estimated sticker of $110,000, the Brit sports car will carry a significantly higher price tag. Still, Aston’s order book is said to be full, with at least the first year’s production sold out ahead of the May 2005 launch.
#50
and yes i no this was mentioned before, http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&sid=178&n=158, but this is the car doing testing!
#53
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wow. but come on, Aston Martin, or Porsche. Porsche has the Boxster S as its entry level car, the Vantage is the entry level of Aston Martin. For me, it'd depend on performance. At that price, I want a track-performer (GT3?).
Then again, $100k can get you an NSX Type-R
Then again, $100k can get you an NSX Type-R
#54
Id take this over a new carrera S or a previous GT3 any day of the week...its 100x better looking, 100x more rare, and 100x nicer on the inside, in addition to the fact that even though it is more expensive, im pritty sure you wont be paying extra money for pearl colored paint or floor matts like you will in the porche. No brainer i would take pritty much any aston over any porche, there the most beautiful cars on the road.
#58
Originally Posted by sipark
Didn't he get fired from 007 movies?
And that Aston is one SWEET looking car!!! Now I just need to make enough money to afford one...
#59
Source: carspyshots.net forum
Per the source, "4.3L with 350hp, and the supercharged version with 450hp".
Source: carspyshots.net forum
Per the source, "4.3L with 350hp, and the supercharged version with 450hp".
Source: carspyshots.net forum
#63
Absolutely goregoeous. The interior's fantastic; I love the oatmeal stiching... and is that suede headliner!!! And as with it's bigger brothers, not a single cut line from the head lamps. Talk about craftmanship. And it looks like the entire gauge pod tilts up and down with the steering column, a la' G35; very nice. I'll take one in the gray shown, please.
Last edited by titan; 01-30-2005 at 12:17 PM.
#65
On a related note:
Aston Stylist's Supercar Dream - - Source: Autoexpress
Aston Stylist's Supercar Dream - - Source: Autoexpress
What's every car designer's dream? To start their own company. And Aston Martin's recently departed Henrik Fisker, seen in the image with his AM V8 concept, has done just that. Based in California, Fisker Coachbuild will produce exclusive supercars, with each production run limited to 150. A prototype of the firm's first model will arrive later this year.
#70
Unbelivably beautiful....but ya Gav, do you have any pics of this, the db9, and the vanquish for comparision, they all do look similar, but thats fine considering theres no other car on the road that looks better then any of them, in my opinion.
#71
Originally Posted by Collective27
Unbelivably beautiful....but ya Gav, do you have any pics of this, the db9, and the vanquish for comparision, they all do look similar, but thats fine considering theres no other car on the road that looks better then any of them, in my opinion.
Sure.
Vanquish Type S here
#72
Preview: Aston Martin V8 Vantage - - By Andrew Frankel - - Source: channel4.com - 4Car
Picture the scene. We're flashing through the Arabian desert at something near 160mph. The little black sports car is towing a vortex of sand as it howls towards the horizon, made closer by the gentle incline ahead. When we reach the incline we realise it's a bridge but it's too late for caution now. As we reach the crest and the road falls away beneath us, the back of the car breaks loose. In truth it's just a shimmy, a kick of the hips; there's no time for corrective lock to be applied - only after the event do I raise my eyebrows and the driver shrugs his shoulders as the Aston Martin continues on its way, shrieking into the sun. Four minutes later, we are ten miles away.
There are lots of moments like this when you're prototyping. New and untried cars are fickle in their nature and it's clear in that particular moment and in those specific conditions that, as we went over the bridge a touch too much air had been allowed under the back of the car making it, for an instant, aerodynamically less than ideally stable. It's good that it's happened. By the time this new V8 Vantage goes on sale in the autumn, all chance of a recurrence of this event in the hands of a member of the public will have been eliminated. It's why we're here.
Correction: it's why Chris Porritt and his team of development engineers are here. I'm just piggy-backing on their programme, getting in their way and asking if, instead of collecting the critical data they need to make this car production ready, they wouldn't mind instead parking it in a sand dune. Where it will get stuck. Which it does. Their humour does not waver for a moment: out here you're hot enough under the collar just sitting in the shade.
For all the oceans of ink expelled on the DB9 of late, it's upon the squat, broad shoulders of this Vantage that the future prosperity of Aston Martin really depends. By this time next year, Aston will be building more of them than the DB9 and Vanquish combined, and selling them to a new generation of young hotshots whose aspirations until now have been to drive a Porsche 911. And wonderful though the 911 is, it's not exactly exclusive any more. Unlike an Aston Martin. Each year around 3000 Vantages will be built in Aston's shiny new factory at Gaydon, bringing Aston's total output to around 5000 units, hitherto an undreamt of volume for one of the world's best known, least productive marques. If this figure is reached, Aston Martin will make a few hundred more cars each year than Ferrari.
Official information on the car is scant. Even so, a lot is still known, can be deduced or, at the very least, fairly accurately surmised. We know, for instance, that it's based on the DB9 platform, shortened by 150mm (nearly six inches). This means DB9 running gear and sub-systems from stem to stern from its double wishbone suspension to its six-speed gearbox mounted in line with the rear axle to optimise the car's weight distribution.
The engine can trace its origins back to Jaguar's 4.2-litre V8 motor, but Porritt's otherwise unshakeable sense of humour shows distinct signs of wobbling if you call it a Jaguar engine. He'll then point out its unique bore and stroke - giving a 4.3-litre capacity - and bespoke internals. He reckons the cam covers are the only interchangeable items and that it will give around 385bhp in production form. Aston has already announced that the Vantage will weigh less than 1500kg, giving the Aston the power to weight ratio it needs to keep up with the latest generation of Porsche 911. The prospect is almost indescribably exciting.
What I can tell you now is that this slightly down on power and distinctly dog-eared prototype still possessed that relentless performance that remains the exclusive province of the true supercar. Any number of tricked-up Japanese saloons or stripped-out British sportscars can feel devastating up to around 100mph, but come 130mph or so, almost all are well past their best. If you drop a gear and nail the Vantage's throttle at 130mph, the engine note hardens and it accelerates hard. I didn't get beyond 160mph during my time in the car but even at that speed it didn't feel to be trying that hard. Expect it to reach 60mph in rather less than five seconds and have a top speed somewhere in the mid 180s.
But don't think that even these bald figures will help you get to know the little Aston. In truth, they're not that different to the numbers posted by the DB9. But the car itself is as different as can be - the most radical departure from the Aston Martin form book of any car since at least the 1970s. Think of the V8 as a cut-price, two-seat DB9 and you'll miss its point entirely.
It should be seen instead as the most overtly sporting Aston, certainly of the last generation and perhaps since the legendary DB4GT of 1960. In Bondian terms, if the DB9 is Roger Moore and the Vanquish Pierce Brosnan, then the Vantage is Sean Connery: leaner, cooler, and tougher by far.
You only have to listen to it to understand the difference at once: while its V12 stablemates lay down a multi-layered concerto of rumbles, whizzes and roars, the V8 simply howls. The result may be a little less sophisticated but it's no less compelling for that. The prototype actually sounds more American than English - a slightly more cultured version of a race-tuned small block and it suits the character of the car to perfection. It is to be hoped that it does not fall foul of drive-by legislation and have to be tamed.
And the Vantage does more than merely sound like the DB9's delinquent kid brother. It may possess the same suspension architecture, but it's been tuned for an entirely different purpose so that while a DB9 flows beautifully down the open road, the Vantage prefers to savage it.
Imagine the result of taking a DB9 chassis - already known for its superlative dynamics - and not only shortening it, but stiffening up its springs and reducing the weight it has to carry by over 250kgs. If the results are not phenomenal, something will have gone badly wrong, particularly as the weight loss has also allowed the DB9's speed-sensitive steering system to be omitted.
Of course out here in the desert, we're not in much of a position to find out. For a start I'm in the wrong seat as Aston won't let anyone actually drive the car for some months and I'm not about to start handing out judgements about a car I haven't driven. The problem is compounded by all the roads out here being dead straight and the fact that Porritt reckons the prototype is worth around £250,000 and they don't have another. Damaging the car would put back the entire development programme so it's understandable why Porritt feels disinclined to go hurling it around, just to keep me amused.
Even so, I can report that it rides firmly, has awesome traction for a two-wheel drive, front-engined car and on the dusty roundabouts we did find, it cornered flat and very fast.
All of which should make anyone who loves the idea of an Aston Martin dedicated to the provision of pure driving pleasure very happy indeed. We know the car looks gorgeous and take it from me it sounds at least as good as it looks. It's very quick and there's no reason to suspect that its handling won't be right out of the top drawer.
Of course its opposition, in the form of the Porsche Carrera S, is daunting. But Aston Martin knows that even if the Porker is a fraction quicker off the line and around the track, this can be more than credibly countered by the looks, name and exclusivity of the Vantage. It only needs to sell in tiny quantities relative to the Porsche to do all and more required of it by Aston Martin and, with waiting times stretching back into the distant recesses of 2006, it would be a brave man who bet against its success.
And for Aston Martin, that success could not be more critical. Not only will it make Aston Martin profitable, it will introduce an unprecedented number of younger people to what Aston's CEO Dr Ulrich Bez describes as 'the Aston Martin family.' Once smitten by the Vantage, the hope is they will then progress onto a DB9 or Vanquish and never leave the fold. These are high hopes, but on this evidence I, for one, would not bet against them.
#73
Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
wow. but come on, Aston Martin, or Porsche. Porsche has the Boxster S as its entry level car, the Vantage is the entry level of Aston Martin. For me, it'd depend on performance. At that price, I want a track-performer (GT3?).
Then again, $100k can get you an NSX Type-R
Then again, $100k can get you an NSX Type-R
#76
So Gav, let me get this right....
In the pics, the first is the AMV8, second is the DB9, third is the Vanquish
And from the back pics, the first is teh AMV8, second the DB9...
Interior, first AMV8 second DB9
All i know is they all look very similar, if you were to pass one quickly on teh road most people prob wouldnt even know the difference between them all....but that dosnt matter becuase they are all so beautiful.
In the pics, the first is the AMV8, second is the DB9, third is the Vanquish
And from the back pics, the first is teh AMV8, second the DB9...
Interior, first AMV8 second DB9
All i know is they all look very similar, if you were to pass one quickly on teh road most people prob wouldnt even know the difference between them all....but that dosnt matter becuase they are all so beautiful.
#77
true dat, they are all definitely beautiful. definitely hard to tell the differences... the DB8 doesn't have the vents at the bottom of the front bumper, the headlights different (easy to tell by the turn signals), the tailpipes on the DB8 are set farther out to the sides and have a molding around them - and the rear spoiler on the DB8 is more prominent.
but wait... it seems like the first pics of the "DB8" taken at the show were of the car at a concept stage... the latter pics are production stage.
in this post:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=72
the turn signals appear how they do on the "DB9" in the comparison picture... DIFFERENT than the "DB8" (AMV8). k now I am really confused.... I am doing some investigashions...
but wait... it seems like the first pics of the "DB8" taken at the show were of the car at a concept stage... the latter pics are production stage.
in this post:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=72
the turn signals appear how they do on the "DB9" in the comparison picture... DIFFERENT than the "DB8" (AMV8). k now I am really confused.... I am doing some investigashions...
#80
Originally Posted by Collective27
So Gav, let me get this right....
In the pics, the first is the AMV8, second is the DB9, third is the Vanquish
And from the back pics, the first is teh AMV8, second the DB9...
Interior, first AMV8 second DB9
All i know is they all look very similar, if you were to pass one quickly on teh road most people prob wouldnt even know the difference between them all....but that dosnt matter becuase they are all so beautiful.
In the pics, the first is the AMV8, second is the DB9, third is the Vanquish
And from the back pics, the first is teh AMV8, second the DB9...
Interior, first AMV8 second DB9
All i know is they all look very similar, if you were to pass one quickly on teh road most people prob wouldnt even know the difference between them all....but that dosnt matter becuase they are all so beautiful.
Yes similar they do look. I guess overall size would betray the car. But then again how many Astons one sees on the roads. They're all special for that.