RyTyGuy

Yea, I test drove both the TSX and TL this past weekend. Asked the Salesperson if there were any "packages" that came with the cars. Response, "No." Glad to know that the salesforce is well educated on the possibility that they could make some more money if they only knew what was going on.

RyTyGuy

Yea, I test drove both the TSX and TL this past weekend. Asked the Salesperson if there were any "packages" that came with the cars. Response, "No." Glad to know that the salesforce is well educated on the possibility that they could make some more money if they only knew what was going on.

Zapata

It's what you'd pay for the aftermarket........what do you people expect???

Sarlacc

aftermarket but with a warranty.

but agreed too pricey in the end.

Crazy Bimmer

Bodykit with spoiler
Shocks/springs
17s with 215s

You telling me thats worth $4330?! ALSO thats NOT with install.

Minch00

Not worth it........but it IS already painted.

It's for people who don't know any better.

Crazy Bimmer

Im not trying to compare car prices, but lets compare options. For $4k option you get thise from bmw

* 235-horsepower engine
* More aggressively tuned sport suspension
* 8-way power front sport seats with 2-way manual headrests and thigh support; 3-driver memory for exterior mirror and seat positions; automatic tilt-down of passenger’s side-view mirror when vehicle is shifted into reverse gear
* Anthracite interior headliner
* Alcantara/cloth upholstery
* Aluminum "black cube" interior trim
* M 3-spoke Alcantara-wrapped multi-function sport steering wheel with fingertip cruise, audio and accessory phone* controls
* M Double Spoke (Styling 135M) alloy wheels, 18 x 8.0 front, 18 x 8.5 rear; 225/40R-18 front, 225/35R-18 rear performance tires**
* High-Gloss shadowline exterior trim
* Matte stainless steel, 35mm dual exhaust pipes
* White turn-signal indicators
* Aerodynamic package
* Tachometer with 300 rpm-higher redline and red needles
* Short, sport gearshift lever

all in one package and thats INSTALLED

Crazy Bimmer

And thats on a 40k car. Who in the right mind would drop 4k for an option on a 27k car?!

Rod

I would...

...for a supercharger.

LannyM

Well, any time you lower a vehicle, the camber is going to change. Hopefully, there's enough adjustment left to compensate and bring the car back within spec. In the admittedly few installs I've seen of this kit, the techs have been in some cases able to get the car to -1.5, and in others to -1.7. The highest I've seen is -1.9. Since spec is -1.5 on the outer limit, you can see that most installs will be on the borderline or just out of spec.

My personal feeling is that a little negative camber in the rear is a good thing, and these numbers are not off enough to cause premature tire wear. Only time will tell if I am correct. Since I hate the stock tires, maybe I'm just hoping they'll wear quickly so I can justify replacing them .

marakbai

So? Am I correct in thinking it's the same thing as the M3 lip spoiler? Just OEM version?

einsatz

I've seen the kit on eBay for over 3k without the tires.
That's a ridiculous price. I see no reason to get it for something that's not going to give any performance gains.
And what's the deal with brakes? How can a package like this not come with upgraded brakes? Think TL A-spec with the brembos.

I'm disapointed. Not that I planned on getting it for my TSX in the first place anyway.

heyitsme

$4300 more for a TypeR tsx, sure. Can't see even bothering with the car at that price.

STC

iTrader: (1)

So did I. I want the A-Spec suspension!

ccarbajal08

Is it me or does the A-SPEC kit look like the OEM kit? I can't tell the difference.

xizor

yes, it is the OEM kit

xizor

yes, its more or less like the M3 lip spoiler, same thing. would be factory painted however

xizor

Tirerack has some weird things in their system about the TSX, they don't know what sizes and offsets are right for the car. They don't show 18x7.5 as a size that fits, only 18x8, so I wouldn't listen to what they suggest

ccarbajal08

So theoretically, if you dropped it, bought the kit, it would be an A-SPEC aside from the wheels. But, can't you get those from the TL A-SPEC?

cusdaddy

Total ripoff... Honda/Acura's A-spec options are very overpriced and disappointing. They could at least have upped the hp slightly with some performance modifications

chungkopi

f#%kin ridiculous

Minch00

LannyM

Well, the wheels would bolt on, but the offset is not optimal. They stick out past the fenders a little too much for my taste.....

Shawn S

A BWM deal….go figure.

RyTyGuy

Does anyone know off hand what the invoice of each part of the A-Spec package is? Someone on the TL site was able to break it down piece by piece, for invoice pricing. I would just like to know so I can use it as a negotiating too.

Zapata

Factory warranty, factory installed....you pay what you get for. Having over paid $$$$ premium for the AUDI drive adn the BMW you drove i thought you'd understand or does paying lots of money only count for cars with little to no perfomance count when it has a german badge on it.


not that i'd pay 4,330...........

Crazy Bimmer

After owning both, i still think the audi and bmw were worth their pricing. I really wouldnt consider audi being overpriced, its slow but comes with everything you can ask for and is soild, at 30k loaded it works for me. Oh and i will bet that my car can run laps around yours at a autox. So remember there is more than a straight line when taling about performance. Oh but you wouldnt know that since everything is based on 1/4 for you.

Also why would anyone care to have a warrenty on a Bodykit or wheels/tires?

Crazy Bimmer

Wow we are both crabby today

Rod

That's all you had to say.

I really do think the package is overpriced though for what you get, especially considering that installation is not included.

Crazy Bimmer

But its more fun bashing the cars i have/had

heyitsme

Its dealer installed, so you're paying a nice chunk to them. It should come from the factory as a mass produced item, lowers cost allround. As far as the german premium, thats the whole point, even BMW doesn't rip people off for the performance package.

1SICKLEX

Honda is so damn stubborn its ridiculous. It's like the WRX, EVO, SRT-4 etc don't exist. Even Lexus focked up L-tuned. And Acura is offering the SAME CRAP they did. And L-tuned is no more.
How can you not learn from others mistakes, SO RECENT.=

1SICKLEX

That is the worst factory package in the history of packages. I thought Lexus L-tuned was sorry. This is worse. Goodness the wheels are the same size and no exhaust? Not even a different grill?
$5000 total probably with dealer install. People buy TSXs b/c they are cheaper than the competition. A 30k TSX?

Zapata

of course.....

Zapata

They are worth it because of the build quality and the factory support. Quality costs $. You HAVE to acknowledge that.


* muh car handles PRETTY well....i'd be willing to run ya for fun on a track course....or some hill/canyons

Zapata

CLASSYCLS

well I am glad that they are making the rims in 17 X ?? a good subsitute for my stockers, but I am assuming that they will be charging alot of $$$$$$$............still considering the price for the entire package plus installation, it will cost you mid 30's for a new TSX A-SPec.........is it really worth it???????

LiQiCE

Acura is crazy imho with these expensive A-Spec packages. The A-Spec package on the RSX was ridiculous. It made the car cost close to $30k... all for visual or suspension upgrades.

Sheesh, the TL/CL Type S gave us 35 extra horsepower, a stiffer suspension, sport seats with perforated leather, 17" rims, all for what ... $2k? The Type S upgrade was a steal. The A-Spec package is Acura trying to steal their money back!

SJ Silver Type-S

ahh, very good point!

cob3683

IMO the car looks awesome with the package but for $30,000+.....it damn sure wont be a 4 banger. It looks great, with or without the package, but for $4,300, engine work needs to be done.