Acura: TLX News
09-04-2003, 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by larchmont
That's sort of partly right, but really it's wrong.
That's sort of partly right, but really it's wrong.
In fact this may be the first Acura in Canada with Nav. Our "Dynamic" package may be the US's "A-Spec". Acura Canada may not want to use "A-Spec" because 03 TL-S already used it. Or the only way we can get a 6 speed is to get the "Dynamic" package which is already equipped like the A-Spec?
Or Dynamic simply means
- 6 Speed
- Brembo's
- Beefed Susp
- Summer Tires (maybe 18's)
There are alot of ways this could go in Canada.
And ya that $40,000 CAD, Our TL-S was $42Kish.
09-04-2003, 10:45 PM
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so it turns out that the new tl is shorter than the old by sevral inches or by the length of my johnson which ever you prefer...6.7 inches :wow:
09-04-2003, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by domn
Don't be so quick to judge Larch, this was a Canadian article not a US article. Our trim levels are commonly different than yours so he may be dead on....
Don't be so quick to judge Larch, this was a Canadian article not a US article. Our trim levels are commonly different than yours so he may be dead on....
For it to be right, it would have to mean that the ONLY way to get the manual transmission in Canada would be with what's basically the HPT option.
We know that you can't get HPT with the auto transmission -- you can only get it with the manual. But, it's hard to believe that in Canada or anywhere else, you HAVE TO take the HPT in order to get the MT.
09-04-2003, 11:27 PM
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2004 TL
2003 TL
Difference
Length, in.
186.2
192.9
- 6.7
Width, in.
72.8
70.3
+ 2.5
Height, in.
56.7
56.1
+ 0.6
Wheelbase, in.
107.9
108.1
- 0.2
Track, Front/Rear, in.
62.1/62.0
61.1/60.4
+ 1.0/1.6
i need every tenth i can get
2003 TL
Difference
Length, in.
186.2
192.9
- 6.7
Width, in.
72.8
70.3
+ 2.5
Height, in.
56.7
56.1
+ 0.6
Wheelbase, in.
107.9
108.1
- 0.2
Track, Front/Rear, in.
62.1/62.0
61.1/60.4
+ 1.0/1.6
i need every tenth i can get
09-04-2003, 11:33 PM
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Some of those specs are off.
On the '03 TL, length definitely isn't 192.9, it's 192.5. And its width isn't 70.3, it's 70.7.
And, about the figure that you show for the width of the '04, we see different numbers, and I don't know which is right. Sometimes we see the 72.8 that you show, sometimes we see 72.2. Either figure would be unusually large relative to the length.
On the '03 TL, length definitely isn't 192.9, it's 192.5. And its width isn't 70.3, it's 70.7.
And, about the figure that you show for the width of the '04, we see different numbers, and I don't know which is right. Sometimes we see the 72.8 that you show, sometimes we see 72.2. Either figure would be unusually large relative to the length.
09-05-2003, 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Maybe -- but seems extremely, extremely unlikely.
For it to be right, it would have to mean that the ONLY way to get the manual transmission in Canada would be with what's basically the HPT option.
We know that you can't get HPT with the auto transmission -- you can only get it with the manual. But, it's hard to believe that in Canada or anywhere else, you HAVE TO take the HPT in order to get the MT.
Maybe -- but seems extremely, extremely unlikely.
For it to be right, it would have to mean that the ONLY way to get the manual transmission in Canada would be with what's basically the HPT option.
We know that you can't get HPT with the auto transmission -- you can only get it with the manual. But, it's hard to believe that in Canada or anywhere else, you HAVE TO take the HPT in order to get the MT.
09-05-2003, 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by VtecMW
Hmm... 3 for 3 favorable/positive initial reviews. :thinking:
Hmm... 3 for 3 favorable/positive initial reviews. :thinking:
09-05-2003, 12:58 AM
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Do you mean Autoweek? I don't recall Automobile magazine.
09-05-2003, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by phile
Do you mean Autoweek? I don't recall Automobile magazine.
Do you mean Autoweek? I don't recall Automobile magazine.
He might have been thinking of the favorable TSX thing in Automobile.
09-05-2003, 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
I think it's just 2 out of 2.
He might have been thinking of the favorable TSX thing in Automobile.
I think it's just 2 out of 2.
He might have been thinking of the favorable TSX thing in Automobile.
I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed".
09-05-2003, 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by VtecMW
No, I'm not "thinking" of the favorable TSX thing in Automobile because I don't spend much time thinking abou the TSX.
I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed".
No, I'm not "thinking" of the favorable TSX thing in Automobile because I don't spend much time thinking abou the TSX.
I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed".
Hard to believe it WASN'T posted, though -- so maybe it's just that my brain is glazed over from all this stuff.
09-05-2003, 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Hard to believe it WASN'T posted, though -- so maybe it's just that my brain is glazed over from all this stuff.
Hard to believe it WASN'T posted, though -- so maybe it's just that my brain is glazed over from all this stuff.
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09-05-2003, 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Next best thing -- here's the text of the review:
2004 Acura TL
Sharper Image: Acura’s BMW chaser gets sportier and plusher
By BILL McGUIRE
Next best thing -- here's the text of the review:
2004 Acura TL
Sharper Image: Acura’s BMW chaser gets sportier and plusher
By BILL McGUIRE
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09-05-2003, 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by acura_driver
Isn't that the one from AutoWeek?
Isn't that the one from AutoWeek?
I think I never saw it -- I was away when we got the link, and then the link stopped working. Anyway, I think the text of the review might not be available anywhere else on our board, so there it is.
And so Vtec was right -- 3 out of 3.
09-05-2003, 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Probably.
I think I never saw it -- I was away when we got the link, and then the link stopped working. Anyway, I think the text of the review might not be available anywhere else on our board, so there it is.
And so Vtec was right -- 3 out of 3.
Probably.
I think I never saw it -- I was away when we got the link, and then the link stopped working. Anyway, I think the text of the review might not be available anywhere else on our board, so there it is.
And so Vtec was right -- 3 out of 3.
"I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed"."
I have not seen that one.
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09-05-2003, 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by acura_driver
Actually Vtec said:
"I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed"."
I have not seen that one.
Actually Vtec said:
"I'm talking about the October 2003 issue of Automobile Mag, pp 98-99, "Acura TL The mantra of practical value gives way to a new song of speed"."
I have not seen that one.
09-05-2003, 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Me neither, I guess. Anyway, where I got that article was from a series of links on Automobile's website.
Me neither, I guess. Anyway, where I got that article was from a series of links on Automobile's website.
OK, time to call it a night and dream of HPCH's and HPD's.
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09-05-2003, 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Jason
Ban VtecMW!
Ban VtecMW!
Jason, that's better than being like some of the resident haters around here who are looking for every reason to knock the TSX!
09-05-2003, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
Me neither, I guess. Anyway, where I got that article was from a series of links on Automobile's website.
Me neither, I guess. Anyway, where I got that article was from a series of links on Automobile's website.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=2037
And here with the web site text and different photos:
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=5
What we are missing is the Automobile Mag text.
for all others, wouldn't it really be 5 / 5 favorable?
Autoweek
Car and Driver
Automobile
Edmunds
Globe and Mirror
I think I count 5?
09-05-2003, 09:17 AM
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yep, interestingly enough, www.hondanews.com has different numbers in different spots, way to go honda!
09-05-2003, 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by larchmont
I say "SEEMS" because -- notice, they don't have it straight about some of the basic facts of the car: They didn't get it about the "trim levels":
There will be three trim levels: TL, Navi (for Navigation) and Dynamic, with a 6-speed manual shifter, higher-performing brakes, beefier anti-roll bars front and rear and dedicated summer high-performance tires.
That's sort of partly right, but really it's wrong.
I say "SEEMS" because -- notice, they don't have it straight about some of the basic facts of the car: They didn't get it about the "trim levels":
There will be three trim levels: TL, Navi (for Navigation) and Dynamic, with a 6-speed manual shifter, higher-performing brakes, beefier anti-roll bars front and rear and dedicated summer high-performance tires.
That's sort of partly right, but really it's wrong.
09-05-2003, 11:53 AM
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reads suspiciouisly like old reviews of the TL-S... good competent car for the money....lots of cars in same class with better dynamics and performance...hope to sell on throwing everything inside and overwhelm people with a lower price so they dont realize they are buying a car that cant keep match the german competition again.
09-05-2003, 12:07 PM
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reads suspiciouisly like old reviews of the TL-S... good competent car for the money....lots of cars in same class with better dynamics and performance...hope to sell on throwing everything inside and overwhelm people with a lower price so they dont realize they are buying a car that cant keep match the german competition again.
reads suspiciouisly like old reviews of the TL-S... good competent car for the money....lots of cars in same class with better dynamics and performance...hope to sell on throwing everything inside and overwhelm people with a lower price so they dont realize they are buying a car that cant keep match the german competition again.
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
09-05-2003, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by jwaters943
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
09-05-2003, 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by jwaters943
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
No one ever said the TL, or TSX for that matter, was a BMW-killer...simply that a similar driving dynamic (or at least as close as you can get in a FWD car) and a feature-packed, value-conscious product were their targets. Why is that so hard to concede?
09-05-2003, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by gilboman
reads suspiciouisly like old reviews of the TL-S... good competent car for the money....lots of cars in same class with better dynamics and performance...hope to sell on throwing everything inside and overwhelm people with a lower price so they dont realize they are buying a car that cant keep match the german competition again.
reads suspiciouisly like old reviews of the TL-S... good competent car for the money....lots of cars in same class with better dynamics and performance...hope to sell on throwing everything inside and overwhelm people with a lower price so they dont realize they are buying a car that cant keep match the german competition again.
09-05-2003, 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by jwaters943
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
On a side note, do you ever have anything positive to contribute? Everytime I see your posts you are whining about something.
If it ai'nt German, RWD, have a I6 or a V8, its no good. Gilbo does'nt seem to understand the fact that Honda does not want to compete head to head with the germans. Maybe they can't, maybe the can? who knows. They're aiming they're cars at different people, people who value FWD cars that sip gas are reliable and enviormentally friendly. Maybe Honda's too smart to go after the Germans?
09-08-2003, 01:40 AM
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Kind of a bland article on the TL but it looks like the 2005 TSX for Canada might be getting a Navigation System....we will have to wait and see. They actually took some nice shots of the TL.
09-08-2003, 07:40 AM
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Yet another positive review of the '04 TL. I can't wait for this car to arrive at dealers, so I can see it up close.
Less than a month to go!
Less than a month to go!
09-08-2003, 10:02 AM
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FINALLY acura is offering Navi up here in canada.... i've been meaning to say this - IT'S ABOUT FREAKING TIME. EVERY OTHER MANUFACTURER offers navi here..... sigh. why is honda always last to do things like this.. I'm willing to bet that now that the TL navi system is configured to canadian specifications that next year the TSX will be offered with Navi...
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