Acura: TLX News
#5761
Trolling Canuckistan
Costco was pretty much sraight on. MRF is Magnetorheological Fluid, MRF is easier to spell and say. Basically it has these things called feroparticles in the fluid, when magnetic current is applied, these feroparticles form chains which restrict the flow of fluid effectively making the suspension firmer.
In 2 words, they can be described as "kick ass".
In 2 words, they can be described as "kick ass".
#5763
Suzuka Master
#5764
Senior Moderator
#5765
Senior Moderator
Had to chance to have a look at the front end of a TL at lunch. There are 2 smaller pieces of metal above the headlights and on either side of the grille. I don't think it would take much to make that one big piece that runs the length of the front end.
#5766
Senior Moderator
I dont know why they never made it part of the hood
#5767
Thought it was plastic?
#5770
It's sheet metal. The factory workers were unfamiliar with this new type of design and assembly, they said it was one of the more difficult processes of this generation's build.
It should not be too difficult to convert it to a single piece but even three pieces like the RonJon design would not be bad because the gaps line up with the hood creases.
It should not be too difficult to convert it to a single piece but even three pieces like the RonJon design would not be bad because the gaps line up with the hood creases.
#5771
Three Wheelin'
t-minus 2 days....
I have to admit I can't wait for the MMC press release on Feb-9. Maybe because I'm a former TL owner who wants to see Acura atone for its over-beakage and allow consumers to appreciate the 4G as a whole rather than a hot chick with a big schnoz.
I have to admit I can't wait for the MMC press release on Feb-9. Maybe because I'm a former TL owner who wants to see Acura atone for its over-beakage and allow consumers to appreciate the 4G as a whole rather than a hot chick with a big schnoz.
#5772
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Prepare for disappointment.
#5773
Go Big Blue!
I would have to agree. As much as I think they need to take several giant steps back on this new front end and back end design, I suspect we will only see token tweeks that will only be noticed by those who are really paying attention. I hope I'm wrong
#5775
It will be webcast live from the Chicago Auto Show
http://hondanews.com/channels/acura-...cago-auto-show
http://hondanews.com/channels/acura-...cago-auto-show
#5776
Go Big Blue!
I know there are a lot who feel its a total abortion of a redesign. I never loved what they did with the front end and backend (backend more so) but I stop short of calling it completely f^^*ed up. Having said that, I still think the changes they probably need to make are too much for an MMC. That's why I'm with Moog when he says prepare to be disappointed.
#5777
The sizzle in the Steak
#5778
True, the humps on the front wheel well breaks up what would have been a very nice, clean line otherwise
#5780
Three Wheelin'
#5781
The sizzle in the Steak
Most peeps find a whole lot more wrong with the car than you do.
It's more than just the beak. The horrible rear end design, ugly front wheel fender arches, lots-o-buttons interior......etc and so on.
I think Acura tried so desperately hard to be different to make a name for themselves........and in the end they succeeded.....just not the way they wanted to.
I see more vanilla in Acura's future. The bean counters will win.
No matter who comes on board to design at Acura....vanilla will be the only flavor permitted.
#5782
Burning Brakes
That rendering looks alot better than the current design. Definitely a worthwhile MMC.
Bottom line is they need to GET RID of the beak, not just keep tweaking it. And they need to fire the design team that came up with this ridiculous idea.
Bottom line is they need to GET RID of the beak, not just keep tweaking it. And they need to fire the design team that came up with this ridiculous idea.
#5783
Burning Brakes
The problem with Japanese car companies, more specifically Honda is that they tend to drastically change the exterior styling of their car from generation to generation. If you look at the Germans or even Lexus, there's a slight evolution in design from generation to generation. Not to mention those companies have more leeway to make more "bold" or "polarizing" design changes because of their established pedigree.
Acura messed up with the TL design. The 3G easily sold 5K units a months. Now it's selling 1.5-2K a months for the 4G. That's a huge drop. The economy cannot be blamed for it anymore because BMW and MB are killing it in sales.
Acura messed up with the TL design. The 3G easily sold 5K units a months. Now it's selling 1.5-2K a months for the 4G. That's a huge drop. The economy cannot be blamed for it anymore because BMW and MB are killing it in sales.
#5785
fucking Edmunds, they put a 2011 TL in the spot for the revised TL in their preview of the Chicago auto show. Got me all excited thinking the picture leaked ahead of debut.
#5786
Senior Moderator
#5789
It looks like they changed the front bumper, blacked out the headlight housings, and it also looks like a new style of the 5-spoke wheel. And I bet the same grilled thats on the 2011 TSX and RL will also be on this MMC.
#5790
judging from the body lines I can make out in that pic, there's a good possibility the grille does not ride up on the hood anymore. that it's aligned with the top of the headlights.
#5791
Currently Post-Acura
#5792
My first Avatar....
It's 3G-esque, but an EVOLUTION thereof. Also the belt line looks lower, and the rear is proportionately high enough for the car. AND the fender mumps have been removed. There is so much wrong with the 4G.
I would buy that coupe if it were RWD and 325+ hp.
As has been said...I am prepared for disappoint.
#5793
Senior Moderator
It's 3G-esque, but an EVOLUTION thereof. Also the belt line looks lower, and the rear is proportionately high enough for the car. AND the fender mumps have been removed. There is so much wrong with the 4G.
I would buy that coupe if it were RWD and 325+ hp.
As has been said...I am prepared for disappoint.
#5794
Safety Car
It's 3G-esque, but an EVOLUTION thereof. Also the belt line looks lower, and the rear is proportionately high enough for the car. AND the fender mumps have been removed. There is so much wrong with the 4G.
I would buy that coupe if it were RWD and 325+ hp.
As has been said...I am prepared for disappoint.
Last edited by ThermonMermon; 02-07-2011 at 10:24 PM.
#5795
Is it possible that this economy affects the traditional Acura buyer more than the traditional BMW and MB buyer?
#5796
Three Wheelin'
When given the choice of spending 30-40k... I think in this economy there are those who would rather wear the badge, then buy a possible superior car. IE MB, C series, and BMW 3 series. I've seen a lot of stripped down 3,s lately -- my only thought is people want the perception of luxury - and would rather put their 35k into the beemer, then Acura.
#5797
Safety Car
When given the choice of spending 30-40k... I think in this economy there are those who would rather wear the badge, then buy a possible superior car. IE MB, C series, and BMW 3 series. I've seen a lot of stripped down 3,s lately -- my only thought is people want the perception of luxury - and would rather put their 35k into the beemer, then Acura.
here's an example based on city:
Manhattan - Guys with 6 figure bonuses driving around 20k beaters.
Miami - Price of car > Annual salary...sometimes by two fold or more.
Last edited by ThermonMermon; 02-08-2011 at 07:17 AM.
#5798
Engineer
#5799
#5800
Safety Car
thanks man...now if i could only get other aziners to like the white vinyled grille on my lexus lease