Belzebutt

It's kind of not funny how this Acura is an exciting SEMA concept, but Lexus will sell you a car that looks just as aggressive straight from the factory.

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Exactly.

MeehowsBRZ

And the fact that it took an aftermarket company to finally do something exciting with the car is sad as well. The best Acura's come up with is some fugly clip on trim pieces.

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Man, did I mention that I'm in love with those IS wheels? So hawt.

skd2k1

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lol, then why did you address me in the first place?

you're the one acting juvenile by addressing my comment, and then crying about it when I respond to you. easy solution here ttribe, put me on ignore.

skd2k1

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I feel oh so terrible about my posts being an annoyance for you, ttribe and meehow. bc I'm sure you're being sincere and don't just enjoy complaining about stuff so I'll give you the same advice: put me on ignore. problem solved.

I disagree, looks like a boyracer from 2010. what it really needs is some altezza tails!

MeehowsBRZ

No one cares.

skd2k1

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then stop responding to me.

civicdrivr

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Pot, meet kettle.

justnspace

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^das wacist.

civicdrivr

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So whatchu gon do bout it?

iforyou

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Actually Car and Driver already did a real test on the TLX 2.4.

TLX 2.4:
2015 Acura TLX 2.4L Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
0-60mph: 6.8s
1/4 mile: 93mph

The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online Forums > TLX > > Re: 2015 TLX 2.4 Tech 0-60 times
0-60mph: 6.5s

ATS 2.5:
2013 Cadillac ATS 2.5L Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
0-60mph: 7.4s
1/4 mile: 90mph

320i:
2013 BMW 320i Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
0-60mph: 6.5s
1/4 mile: 92mph

IS250 AWD:
2014 Lexus IS250 F Sport AWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
0-60mph: 7.8s
1/4 mile: 87mph
(assume RWD is 0.5s faster to 60mph and 3mph faster in 1/4 mile, that's still behind the TLX 2.4)

2014 Lexus IS 250 AWD First Test - Motor Trend
0-60mph: 7.9s
1/4 mile: 87mph
(assume RWD is 0.5s faster to 60mph and 3mph faster in 1/4 mile, that's still behind the TLX 2.4)

I have yet to see the new IS350 getting 0-60mph in the 4's. Could you provide some links? I have seen as low as 5.3s, with most figures in the mid 5's. 1/4 mile trap speed is roughly 99mph +/-2mph.

Habemus Papem! 2013 BMW 335i M Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 3.6, 2014 Lexus IS350 F Sport Comparison Tests - Page 5 - Car and Driver

2014 Infiniti Q50S vs. Lexus IS350 F Sport - Motor Trend All Pages

The likes of C400, 335i, and S4 are faster than the TLX V6. As I've been saying, the TLX V6 performance is more comparable to IS350, 328i, C300. ATS 3.6, A4 2.0T, etc. In fact, those German sedans (335i, C400, S4) are in the league of their own. Nothing, including IS350, ATS 3.6, and Q50, comes close to those cars.

ScottLong

None of this matters. IS don't need to be fast. It's a Lexus.
BMW don't need to handle well anymore or be a driver's car anymore.
It's a beemer.
Mercedes don't need to be anything. It's a Benz.

Acura actually need to be something.............because it's not at the same level of prestige and market power as those three in America.

The common people don't care about any 0-60 seconds that car forum nerds care about. They care about 1-Price 2-Looks 3- Brand. (In no particular order)

Will Y.

See Lexus 0-60 Times & Lexus Quarter Mile Times | Lexus IS F, RX, RC, LFA, GS 350, LS 460 sedan, LX 570, SC 0-60 and 2014 Lexus Hybrid 0 to 60 stats! on the 2014 IS250 and IS350 in various forms. The IS250 RWD versions are either faster or the same in the quarter mile as the TLX 2.4 as measured by C&D; it has the IS350 at under 5 in 0-60...

Some TLX V6 times are at:Acura TLX 0-60 times, 0 to 100 kmh acceleration, 1/4 mile. Autoweek timed the 0-60 on both TLX models in 2015 Acura TLX first drive | Autoweek. Dan Neil has the TLX V6 SH-AWD at 6.8(!) 0-60- see 2015 Acura TLX Makes a Quiet Statement - WSJ - WSJ.

The G37/Q50 has always been a low-5 second car, with a couple of sub-5 second 0-60 runs in various publications. The IS350 and Q50 aren't far off the 335 times. It seems like the TLX V6 is way behind the class in terms of acceleration.

fsttyms1

SO amazing it scored less than the TL it replaces. I wouldnt call an acceptable rating something to be proud of.

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Hey man. Thank you for getting it.

ScottLong

Acurazine have a lot of Anti-Acura feelings though. The common group mentality here is that 'we don't hate Acura, we are just so let down by what was once a great car Brand'. The truth is it's far easier to bash and mock than to admire. What's the fun in saying 'The TLX is selling well and it have great reviews'? No fun. It's a lot more fun to point out it's perceived flaws.

All you people hating on the TLX isn't really doing it because you guys felt 'let down' by the 'beloved' Acura brand. You guys just hate to simply hate.

The TLX just moved 5000 Units last month. Doesn't matter to you guys. When the TLX eventually move 6000+ and they will. It still won't matter. If the TLX end up selling too much? You guys will simply state that 'sales numbers don't matter'. And that 'these people buying the car don't REALLY know anything'...

Prepare to be confused when the TLX move 6000+ Units in December. Prepare to sit there and stare blankly at the Acurazine homepage..wondering how in the WORLD are there 5000-6000 morons paying a lot of money every month to get this 'piece of trash' TLX.

SSFTSX

what kind of tires these car using. you cant mix performance of summer tires with all season.

MeehowsBRZ

OMG, a brand new car selling well?! That's never happened before.

Belzebutt

It's nowhere near that. I've been looking at the IS350 as my potential next ride and I really like it but IMO the engine is the main drawback. Based on all the reviews I've seen I figure it has almost identical performance to a BMW 328i, i.e. 0-60 in around 5.6 at best. It's definitely a class below the 335i or S4.

That wouldn't be so bad since the car is priced similar to a 328i I think (at least in Canada) but the fuel economy on that Lexus V6 is horrible while the 328i is best in class. I'll wait until Lexus refreshes the engine (and the graphics on their multimedia system, which also lags badly behind BMW/Audi).

ttribe

HDNBenjamin

Not all brand new cars sell well. Obviously a new car must be good to sell well from the get go, but I hope you already knew that, or your business acumen needs some brushing up.

Costco

I saw a TLX up close on the road, finally. I dunno what trim level it was, but I liked it. Nowhere near the hulking land barge the 4G was. Sister thought it was a TSX.

Edward'TLS

I had a chance to try out a loaded 2.4L TLX as my service courtesy car, a couple weeks ago.

The gauges/console layout and equipment level on that 4-cylinder TLX are very similar to my $60K Cdn 3G MDX, which is a big plus.

However, not only is the TLX not as big as the 4G TL on the outside, the inside of the TLX is also more cramped when compared to the 4G TL, too.

The 4-cylinder engine is also comparatively short in power, but loud in engine noise when pushed.

Looks like the V6 TLX will be a better choice.

Legend2TL

Vehicle details


Was good rating by IIHS which conducted that test, same as previous years.
What test and what "acceptable" rating are you referring to?
AFAIK, NTSHA has not tested a TLX yet but could be mistaken.

fsttyms1

2015 TLX Vehicle details



TLX Acceptable rating for small overlap

Small overlap front A

Moderate overlap front G

Side G

Roof strength G

Head restraints & seats G

2014 TL

Small overlap front G

Moderate overlap front G

Side G

Roof strength G

Head restraints & seats G

Legend2TL

OK, so same score for 4 of 5 categories but droped to acceptable for intrusion of lower door hinge. So to be clear the acceptable was only for 1 out of 5 tests, not overall. FWIW, the 2014 TL also had door hinge deformation but not intrusion. So the overall difference is small in the test results.

MeehowsBRZ

lol, you're about 100% wrong. Clearly you don't know what the term "marketing" means, because PT Cruisers/Cobalts/Sebrings sure as hell didn't sell on the fact that they were any good. But keep pretending you know something about business.

RPhilMan1

Exactly, we must know what type of x-section the tires had!!!

jwong77

So the 320i that everyone loves to blast and pick on is the fastest of the group. But somehow the TLX is the kick ass car, got it.

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320i with M pkg looks

JS + XES

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Spring tires for all cars.

kurtatx

Lots of cut corners in the 320i, but color me impressed.

JS + XES

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Oh really? which part? I thought it was the same 3 with a detuned 328i engine?

Can't you just chip it and whhhheeee?

iforyou

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Of course. But the original post I was responding to was solely about acceleration performance. Will stated that the TLX is below average in acceleration compared to others in this segment. I showed him proof that the TLX 2.4 is faster than average, and that the 3.5 is right around average. That's all.

I wholeheartedly agree that most people don't really care about 0-60mph or 1/4 mile. More specifically, I don't think most people would care about a few tenths or a couple mph in the 1/4 mile.

The link you provided just showed a bunch of numbers, but I don't really see the actual sources. And what's 14.5s@0mph? That makes no sense at all.

I'm not sure about your sources, I think most would agree to use more reputable sources such as Car and Driver, Edmunds, Motor Trend, etc. I have done that already to back up my claims. Also, none of your numbers show that the IS 250 is anywhere quicker than 7 seconds with the IS 250.

And what's the point of comparing one of the slowest times of a car to the fastest time of another car?

Here's an actual video clip showing 0-60mph in 5.8s for the TLX V6 AWD:

Here's the IS350 F Sport with 0-60mph in 5.6s:



Yea, the old IS350 was faster it seems. I have seen from a few major publications that it can do 0-60mph in less than 5 seconds and 1/4 mile in the mid 13's. The new model seems to be a bit slower.

I saw a few in person and thought they look great. Definitely more road presence than the already great looking Accord and the old TSX. And definitely not ugly like the 4G TL but that's obvious.

Haha yea it takes almost 7 seconds to reach 60 mph and only has a 1/4 mile trap speed of low 90's mph. Much slower than what you are used to for sure!

Haha yea the 0-60mph is a bit misleading thanks to its ability to brake torque and build up boost.

But you know, I actually thought the 320i is a solid car. You do get a BMW for low $30k, despite the fact that it might be hard to find a base 320i on the lot. But you get a real, rear-wheel drive BMW. I personally would prefer the base 320i over a CLA250 or A3.

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Damn that Lexus speedometer looks fantastic!

ttribe

There are a number of options not offered on the 320i. Personally, I hate the 320i, but I can see its appeal.

JS + XES

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If the lease price is pretty good, it should be a pretty fun car to DD. It does come with a 6MT.

kurtatx

My impression as well. I built a 320i on BMW's website and just couldn't get the setup I could live with. Seems like brand dilution.

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Like which options?