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but I honestly think Acura should not have made LED headlight standard on every TLX and soon on every Acura. it is good for consumers until when they realize the $25k ILX has the same headlight. when every Acura on the road has the same headlight, then it is no longer something special and with many other standard features.
I politely disagree. "Jewel Eyes" are a better "brand face" than the power plenum yo!
And as for your earlier comment about them not being adaptive, if you see them in action because of the 5 projectors on each side and wide dispersement, they don't really need swiveling action because the light throw pattern is already substantially wider than normal fixed Xenon HID projectors.
Acura clearly needs to offer more/better differentiation than Honda Plus, but then when they move upscale in features and price moves up accordingly, peeps will complain about the pricing. Just look at Cadillac for example. Brand managers cannot move a product upmarket in pricing in such a short period or it will shock the clientele base. Is the new CTS a nice car? Yes, but is it worth 10k more on average than the model it replaced.
RLX and ILX are case studies in pricing and product mismanagement.
I politely disagree. "Jewel Eyes" are a better "brand face" than the power plenum yo!
And as for your earlier comment about them not being adaptive, if you see them in action because of the 5 projectors on each side and wide dispersement, they don't really need swiveling action because the light throw pattern is already substantially wider than normal fixed Xenon HID projectors.
Acura clearly needs to offer more/better differentiation than Honda Plus, but then when they move upscale in features and price moves up accordingly, peeps will complain about the pricing. Just look at Cadillac for example. Brand managers cannot move a product upmarket in pricing in such a short period or it will shock the clientele base. Is the new CTS a nice car? Yes, but is it worth 10k more on average than the model it replaced.
RLX and ILX are case studies in pricing and product mismanagement.
I saw my first live TLX last night. It looked pretty sharp in black with the black/silver rims. It was dark so I couldn't get a good look at the interior.
Still once the novelty wears off the car needs a version with snugger-fitting wheels and slightly lower springs. I don't know why Acura insists on making its car look 4x4-ish. This one wasn't even a 4x4 (no SH-AWD badge).
^looks outdated to me, and that decklid spoiler is a no go.
it still has the "beak" everyone has been complaining about.
All you've done is pointed out how much they failed with the current standard design. If this SEMA version is an improvement over the standard design, and it still has the problems you are noting, that means the standard design is really not good.
Can't say I disagree, but if you look at the pace CTS's are piling up in dealer lots, Caddy has some heavy lifting to do in moving pricing upscale too.
^looks outdated to me, and that decklid spoiler is a no go.
it still has the "beak" everyone has been complaining about.
Wait, so now that "the haters" have found a TLX they like you decide you hate it? Is this truly the whole point of your existence, to just contradict everyone and complain?
Wait, so now that "the haters" have found a TLX they like you decide you hate it? Is this truly the whole point of your existence, to just contradict everyone and complain?
Being a contrarian is an ongoing pattern in many threads, yes.
Unfortunately, the TLX's acceleration and speed numbers are below average for the class (and a step backward for the TL series) in both 4-cylinder and V6 versions in reviews I've read.
Unfortunately, the TLX's acceleration and speed numbers are below average for the class (and a step backward for the TL series) in both 4-cylinder and V6 versions in reviews I've read.
It's really not below average when it comes to acceleration. The 2.4 model is capable of 0-60mph in 6.5s to 7s. It has a 1/4 mile trap speed of 93mph. That puts it right on par with 320i and is noticeably faster than IS250 and ATS 2.5L.
Data is rather limited for the TLX V6. 0-60mph so far is in the 5.5s to 6s range. I have only seen one 1/4 mile test with a trap speed of 98mph, and that's for an AWD trim too. That sort of performance would put the car on par with 328i, IS350, and ATS 3.6, faster than ATS 2.0T, C300, and A4 2.0T, and slower than 335i, S4, and C400.
It's really not below average when it comes to acceleration. The 2.4 model is capable of 0-60mph in 6.5s to 7s...
Data is rather limited for the TLX V6. 0-60mph so far is in the 5.5s to 6s range...
The actual test numbers I've seen (newspaper and Edmunds tests) for 0-60 are in the mid-7s for the 4 and mid-6's for the 6-- that's much slower than the comparable IS, 3-series, ATS, etc.
Car and Driver has estimates that match the numbers from your source, but no instrumented test numbers yet.
The instrumented S4, IS350 and 335 tests show 0-60 under 5 seconds, with quarters in the mid-13s-- that's quite a bit faster than even optimistic estimates of TLX performance, but not surprising given its 40-horsepower or so deficit.
All you've done is pointed out how much they failed with the current standard design. If this SEMA version is an improvement over the standard design, and it still has the problems you are noting, that means the standard design is really not good.
nah, I don't think that spoiler is the stock spoiler, and I was just poking fun about the "beak", which really isn't a beak at this point. the sema version looks like a boyracer to me.
the stock tlx is a good looking car imo, especially now that I'm seeing them on the road regularly.
Wait, so now that "the haters" have found a TLX they like you decide you hate it? Is this truly the whole point of your existence, to just contradict everyone and complain?
opinions are opinions, I have just as much right to voice mine as you do. what I don't understand is why that bothers you so much.
I'm not a fan of the sema pic, looks boyracer-ish to me.
Originally Posted by ttribe
Being a contrarian is an ongoing pattern in many threads, yes.
Idont mean to trump their hardwork. I hope it comes out looking more like this with the rear diffuser.
All they have to do is paint a portion of the black. Should be simple.
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In those shots, I don't like the spoiler. It's too "tacked on". And the tips need to be larger. I don't mind the rectangular shape though, but I think 3G TL-S quads would look good in there.
Why does Acura make these show cars in beautiful colors (see red NYIAS TLX, blue SEMA TLX) yet put them into production in the most boring Accord colors available?
TLX sold around 5000 Units last month............I guess 5000 people didn't read Acurazine's Auto News section.
[sigh] Here we go again. To summarize - the TLX is a fine car. It will (is) sell reasonably well. It is not, however, the game changing splash in the market Acura needs to become relevant again.
Good enough versus hory-shet-awesome is a huge difference. The "haters" are asking for hory-shet-awesome...something that Acura USED to do back in the 90s...
apparently I'm not the only one in here who isn't feeling the spoiler.
You're missing the point, again.
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Good enough versus hory-shet-awesome is a huge difference. The "haters" are asking for hory-shet-awesome...something that Acura USED to do back in the 90s...
I feel like a broken record repeating this.
You are a broken record repeating this; and so am I.
the point: it's foul play for me to voice my disliking of the sema sketch, but it's totally cool for anyone else to say the same thing as long as they're not me.
let me add a bit more, the front bumper looks like they took it from a cobalt, there is too much black plastic on the rear bumper, and I'm not a fan of rectangular exhaust.
The new midsize sedan demonstrated acceptable performance in the challenging small-overlap test, good ratings for four other crashworthiness trials, and a superior rating for front-crash protection.
In the small-overlap test, the maximum intrusion of approximately seven inches was measured at the lower hinge pillar. The dummy's movement was well controlled, keeping its head nestled between two airbags.
"Measures from the dummy sensors indicated that injuries to the left lower leg would be possible, but the risk of other injuries in a crash of this severity was low," the organization noted.
The TLX outperforms one of its predecessors, the TSX, which earned a marginal rating for the small-overlap trial, however it received a lower rating than its other forebear, the TL, which achieved a good rating in the same test.
"The TLX joins the RLX flagship sedan and MDX sport-utility vehicle in earning top marks from the IIHS, making Acura the leader among all luxury brands with the most 2014 TOP SAFETY PICK+ rated models," Acura said in a statement.
the point: it's foul play for me to voice my disliking of the sema sketch, but it's totally cool for anyone else to say the same thing as long as they're not me.
No, that's not the point and I'm not doing this with you anymore. You derail thread after thread with your juvenile whining about how you're wronged and I'm not playing this time.
Pretty amazing how little deformation of the cabin occurs in that small overlap head-on considering the A pillar/firewall section takes alot of the impact once it runs through the upper/lower clip. Structural/FEA/mechanical engineers did their job very well. Notice part of the front left rim flying at 0.19
11-02-2014, 09:07 AM
Acura TLX earns top crashworthiness rating from IIHS
