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Old 04-28-2014, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
so you're saying that 'accent' means 'fake?'
He doesn't know what he's saying.
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Oh to the contrary my parrot friend. Your buddy presented me no argument for me to escape from in the first place. He pulled his 'V card' and Vag'd down to deferring from the topic at hand and instead focused on me. Kind of like what you're doing right now: contributing absolutely nothing productive and only instigating drama by repeating things that other people have already said, over and over and over again. And to top it off, not a single remark was directed at you. If only your Scion was as fast as your willingness to start drama, drama queen. Get a life.
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
He doesn't know what he's saying.
apparently I don't either.
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the car hasnt even come out yet ...
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the car hasnt even come out yet ...
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the car hasnt even come out yet ...
Yep. It's been delayed after hosting an unveiling event.
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I see where you are coming from. It's true that you are expected to be able to answer most questions from the media. But then this is TOV we are talking about, some of the questions are more interesting than usual.

I think for most people, being the chief whatever means you are the Mr. Know it all. But from my experience, being the chief guy means you need to be able to see the big picture. For instance, the chief engineer would probably don't know what's the wattage of the turn signal bulb is, what the part number is for the valve stem, etc. You simply can't know every single little thing.
Oh come on, The chief engineer should have known something as simple as fuel gallons as something he knew, especially the conversion from Gallons to Liters. He should have been able to answer basic questions which he couldnt.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
so you're saying that 'accent' means 'fake?'
Yes - used in the sense that Acura used it in their press release. If the wood was real - they'd use the term genuine or authentic - like they did when the RL had real wood...or like any other car maker that puts real wood veneer in their interiors.

But to try to argue that I'm wrong by saying that LED accent lighting doesn't mean the light is fake - that's really desperate. That was what your pal was doing. Doesn't work here. I guess he thinks people who talk with Jersey accents are faking it too?

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Old 04-29-2014, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
No one can know everything all the time. But he should have review some of the data sheet he received prior the unveil. Then he can forget about it and move on to the next big thing.

It is all about preparation. you are right, for the most people if your Chief Engineering does not even know the specs of TLX, then who would?
I agree. But my response was more related to what JS+BRZ said as shown below, where he focused on "everything" and "every little thing."

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Now you are being way too extreme with it.

Just say that he effed up and move on.
Here were your quotes buddy:

Post#8772:
As a chief engineer, who was in charge of unveiling a brand new car, he should have known every single little thing about the car.
Post#8767:
If you are a chief engineer of ANY PRODUCT, you should know everything about it, period.
Who is extreme? Me or you? I wasn't the one who said "everything" or "every little thing."

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Oh come on, The chief engineer should have known something as simple as fuel gallons as something he knew, especially the conversion from Gallons to Liters. He should have been able to answer basic questions which he couldnt.
See my post (#8766):
With that said, it's funny how he can't convert from litres to US gallons. That should be fairly basic IMO unless you want an accurate conversion.
As you can see, I already covered that point and I criticized Mat for that.
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As far as I know all TL's had fake wood, its always been that way, so whats the big deal if the TLX has it too. What do you really think its going to make a huge dent in sales because its fake? As far as I'm concerned, remove the wood (fake or real) altogether, and replace with carbon fiber, aluminum, etc.
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who cares about real or fake wood.

Wood sucks anyways. i want some piano black or real aluminum.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I agree. But my response was more related to what JS+BRZ said as shown below, where he focused on "everything" and "every little thing."



Here were your quotes buddy:

Post#8772:


Post#8767:


Who is extreme? Me or you? I wasn't the one who said "everything" or "every little thing."



See my post (#8766):


As you can see, I already covered that point and I criticized Mat for that.
Oh jeez.

Yeah, I posted that to give you a lesson on why someone on his level should be working like a VP of Marketing. This is some basic stuff you learn at school, if you major in any type of business side.

You said you are an mechanical engineer, and it's hard to know everything about the product.

Yeah, that's because you don't get to talk to PR. You R&D the products.

The executive officers like that guy must be able to answer whatever questions the interviewers throw at them.

No idiots will ask him what's the part number for valve stems nor what's the wattage for signal bulb. Who would ask that??? Maybe you?
Old 04-29-2014, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
who cares about real or fake wood.

Wood sucks anyways. i want some piano black or real aluminum.
Precisely. Most people look at wood trim and automatically assume it's plood anyway.
Old 04-29-2014, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I agree. But my response was more related to what JS+BRZ said as shown below, where he focused on "everything" and "every little thing."



Here were your quotes buddy:

Post#8772:


Post#8767:


Who is extreme? Me or you? I wasn't the one who said "everything" or "every little thing."



See my post (#8766):


As you can see, I already covered that point and I criticized Mat for that.
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Oh jeez.

Yeah, I posted that to give you a lesson on why someone on his level should be working like a VP of Marketing. This is some basic stuff you learn at school, if you major in any type of business side.

You said you are an mechanical engineer, and it's hard to know everything about the product.

Yeah, that's because you don't get to talk to PR. You R&D the products.

The executive officers like that guy must be able to answer whatever questions the interviewers throw at them.

No idiots will ask him what's the part number for valve stems nor what's the wattage for signal bulb. Who would ask that??? Maybe you?
Uhh, am I the only one who sees the problem between these two is the literal interpretation of hyperbole?
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The problem is TLX.
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Originally Posted by phile
Yes - used in the sense that Acura used it in their press release. If the wood was real - they'd use the term genuine or authentic - like they did when the RL had real wood...or like any other car maker that puts real wood veneer in their interiors.

But to try to argue that I'm wrong by saying that LED accent lighting doesn't mean the light is fake - that's really desperate. That was what your pal was doing. Doesn't work here. I guess he thinks people who talk with Jersey accents are faking it too?
last time I checked, which was yesterday, the definition(s) of 'accent' doesn't contain a meaning equating to 'fake.' of course that doesn't mean the wood in the tlx is real, but the word 'accent' doesn't mean 'fake.' I've read the press release that doesn't say 'fake wood trim', so I honestly don't know for sure.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
last time I checked, which was yesterday, the definition(s) of 'accent' doesn't contain a meaning equating to 'fake.' of course that doesn't mean the wood in the tlx is real, but the word 'accent' doesn't mean 'fake.' I've read the press release that doesn't say 'fake wood trim', so I honestly don't know for sure.
holy fake wtfbbq did you just say?
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
holy fake wtfbbq did you just say?
cliffs: phile seems to be saying that 'accent' means 'fake.' according to the dictionary, it doesn't. tlx press release says 'wood accent trim', not sure how phile is getting 'fake' out of that.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
last time I checked, which was yesterday, the definition(s) of 'accent' doesn't contain a meaning equating to 'fake.' of course that doesn't mean the wood in the tlx is real, but the word 'accent' doesn't mean 'fake.' I've read the press release that doesn't say 'fake wood trim', so I honestly don't know for sure.
NO PRESS RELEASE WILL SAY "WE OFFER FAKE WOOD"


they will make up some fancy term to make the fake wood sound nice.

If it was real, you can bet your ass that Acura will advertise it like it is REAL wood.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
NO PRESS RELEASE WILL SAY "WE OFFER FAKE WOOD"


they will make up some fancy term to make the fake wood sound nice.

If it was real, you can bet your ass that Acura will advertise it like it is REAL wood.
please keep typing in all caps.

you might be right about the press release.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
cliffs: phile seems to be saying that 'accent' means 'fake.' trim', not sure how phile is getting 'fake' out of that.
Who cares? Why does it matter so much to you? If Phile thinks its fake then let him think that. If you think its real, you are entitled to think that. Please give it a rest. Nobody else cares.
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Who cares? Why does it matter so much to you? If Phile thinks its fake then let him think that. If you think its real, you are entitled to think that. Please give it a rest. Nobody else cares.
if you didn't care you wouldn't be addressing me. why don't you ask phile why he cares? he's dedicated more text to it than me.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
if you didn't care you wouldn't be addressing me. why don't you ask phile why he cares? he's dedicated more text to it than me.


Is this why you guys love skd so much in R&P?
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Originally Posted by Costco


Is this why you guys love skd so much in R&P?
You're getting warmer....
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Hey I'm not much of an expert at argumentative theory, but I guess that was a straw man fallacy he attempted there?
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sorry guys, didn't realize this conversation was only allowed to be one sided.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
who cares about real or fake wood.

Wood sucks anyways. i want a better looking and more competitive car.




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sorry guys, didn't realize this conversation was only allowed to be one sided.
I think even SSFTSX would laugh at your logic.
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I think even SSFTSX would laugh at your logic.
you mean the part where I said 'accent' doesn't mean 'fake?'

I think it's time for you to post your most favoritest gif again.
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sorry guys, didn't realize this conversation was only allowed to be one sided.
That's a rather ironic statement given some of the posts from the "Acura can do no wrong" crowd.
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That's a rather ironic statement given some of the posts from the "Acura can do no wrong" crowd.
phile dedicates more text to the issue of 'wood accent trim' but the 'cool story bro' club has no prob with that.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
phile dedicates more text to the issue of 'wood accent trim' but the 'cool story bro' club has no prob with that.
I've been on this forum for a long time.

And I can confidently say that you are like the most idiotic member on Acurazine.

That's something.

Congratulation.
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
phile dedicates more text to the issue of 'wood accent trim' but the 'cool story bro' club has no prob with that.
I'm sorry you perceive I haven't been doling out my sarcasm in an even enough fashion for your tastes. If you are going to hold me accountable for such quasi-omniscience, perhaps you'd do me the courtesy of keeping score on each side's barbs so I know when to jump in with a sufficiently cutting remark? Shall I clear my comments with you first, as well?

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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
I've been on this forum for a long time.

And I can confidently say that you are like the most idiotic member on Acurazine.

That's something.

Congratulation.
awwww I was really hoping your pet gif was going to make an appearance. :sniffles:
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Originally Posted by ttribe
I'm sorry you perceive I haven't been doling out my sarcasm in an even enough fashion for your tastes. If you are going to hold me accountable for such quasi-omniscience, perhaps you'd do me the courtesy of keeping score on each side's barbs so I know when to jump in with a sufficiently cutting remark? Shall I clear my comments with you first, as well?
you can say whatever you want, but don't get all pissy when it comes back your way. turn about is fair play, chief.

wanna talk about how much you hate the tlx or do want to keep talking skd2k1?
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
you can say whatever you want, but don't get all pissy when it comes back your way. turn about is fair play, chief.

wanna talk about how much you hate the tlx or do want to keep talking skd2k1?
I see no turnabout...but, whatever. Besides, I don't hate the TLX (another strawman), I'm disappointed in it and consider it another missed opportunity by Acura management. Do you see the difference?
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
you can say whatever you want, but don't get all pissy when it comes back your way. turn about is fair play, chief.

wanna talk about how much you hate the tlx or do want to keep talking skd2k1?
For the 3rd time, no one here hates TLX.
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I see no turnabout...but, whatever. Besides, I don't hate the TLX (another strawman), I'm disappointed in it and consider it another missed opportunity by Acura management. Do you see the difference?
phile can talk about how 'wood accent trim' = fake wood all day long with no demands for 'silence, no one cares.' the moment someone questions that, they get shouted down. it's obvious some folks are only interested in a one-sided discussion.

you say fib is being obnoxious, but you ignore your brz buddy posting the same gif ad infinitum.
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Originally Posted by jwong77
As far as I know all TL's had fake wood, its always been that way, so whats the big deal if the TLX has it too. What do you really think its going to make a huge dent in sales because its fake? As far as I'm concerned, remove the wood (fake or real) altogether, and replace with carbon fiber, aluminum, etc.
Has Acura ever offered real wood? I don't think so, and who cares - wood is for old farts.

Ditto on bringing the real aluminum and real carbon fiber for your "red carpet athlete" Ackavetti!!!
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Has Acura ever offered real wood? I don't think so, and who cares - wood is for old farts.

Ditto on bringing the real aluminum and real carbon fiber for your "red carpet athlete" Ackavetti!!!
tell that to the guy above you. He does not seem the understand that based on Acura's history. Wood Accent is most likely fake wood.

We do not disagree with that because we all know most likely that is what it is. Fake wood.

We are perfect ok with fake wood since most of us don't like wood anyways. but someone has to jump in and say "how do you for sure it is fake if it is not saying it is fake"


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