VR1

I actually signed up for that contest LOL.

JS + XES

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$50k is probably not the fully loaded one either.

Better be good!

iforyou

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From what I've seen, it is the fully loaded model, unless you count the accessories too. Here are the trim levels (also including a guesstimate of price level):

2.4L FWD ($31k)
2.4L FWD Tech ($35k)
3.5L FWD ($38k)
3.5L FWD Tech ($42k)
3.5L FWD Advance ($46k)
3.5L AWD Tech ($46k)
3.5L AWD Advance ($50k)

swoosh

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where is this price info posted? got link?

H_CAR

$49,995 for most loaded TLX you can buy. Not bad

JS + XES

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iforyou,

Please, just post the link.

And did they release any numbers for the cars yet?

All we have is leaked pictures, no?

Edward'TLS

$50K for a fully-loaded TLX is one hefty price tag indeed. It's almost $5K more than the current fully-loaded TL.

Acura must really be in a big hurry to push it's products to go upmarket.

Will it put off potential TLX buyers the same way as the unreasonably hefty price tag put off all those potential RLX buyers ?

Hapa DC5

It'll sell below invoice in six months anyways. You could probably snag one up for around 46k + ttl

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Well, I can't deny the fact that TLX looks $5k more expensive than the Beak mobiles. So, I won't complain. Just want the car to drive well and not be too heavy.

charliemike

$50K for a 273hp V6?

Jesus, I thought the Germans were overpriced.

Moog-Type-S

They are not going to sell very many at $50k.

AZuser

If those are the prices, then I was pretty close.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=6970

ttribe

My somewhat educated guess is the margin is half that, at best.

CGTSX2004

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Where'd you get the horsepower number from? As far as we know, they have not yet released the numbers. And if anything, it is likely to be at least the same 310 hp tune used in the RLX since the motor is the same.

JS + XES

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Don't believe what the fanboys say in the thread.

Just wait for the official numbers from Acura.

VR1

273? It's going to be atleast ~295 at the least. IMO that price isn't that bad, if you configure a F30 328i similarily, you're at $50k aswell.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=5175913

Granted to get paddle shifters you have to get the $2,500 sport line on the bimmer.

JS + XES

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Well, that's the ultimate driving machine. It's worth it.

ttribe

There's no question BMW overprices all of its cars, but especially the inferior ones. The difference, however, is BMW (and MB, Audi, Porsche, et al) has the brand cache to pull it off. Acura is sorely lacking in that area, thus the incredulity.

VR1

I'm not sure if I would take a 328i over a fully loaded 300hp SH-AWD TL. I don't think I would honestly. A 335i anyday, but price wise that's in a different league. Hell for 50k you can get a slightly used E90 M3.

VR1

I agree.

When I looked at 328i's when I was car shopping I thought I could get one with Xenons + Leather + Sunroof for ~33-36k. I lasted about 5 minutes in the dealer before I left.

ttribe

A F30 328i (or 320i) is anything but an "ultimate driving machine".

Seriously, secondary market really is the way to go with BMW unless you've won the lottery.

Yeah, that's total crap. But, they'll lease 'em by the truckload and then sell them a second time under CPO. It works for them.

VR1

The BMW salesman always seem very pushy toward leasing. I guess I know why now.
I did look at CPO E90 328i's which I did like, the CPO warranty was pretty attractive as well. But I wanted one with a ///M sport package which I couldn't find. And most of the ones they had were used as loaner cars. I heard good things about the TSX so I checked it out and really liked it, especially the SE trim with the red interior stitching, wheels and bodykit. Not to mention I get a grin on my face everytime I hear how it sounds (One does not own a K24 TSX with the resonator on). If Acura wouldv'e made a 2.4 TLX SE or some Sports trim they would've sold a boat load to people like me. Which confuses my why there is no "Type S" version. All they need is a kit + wheels and people like me who don't know better will flock.

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Wait.. I get the overpriced part, of course.

But have you driven a F30 328i with sports package on it? It drives very nicely.

ttribe

I've driven a few F30 328i's; don't recall whether any of them had the sport package. That being said, the steering is still very poor compared to the E9x, not to mention how much NVH that 4-cyl produces. Seriously, drive a F30 328i back-to-back with an E9x 335i. It's night and day.

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Compare to E9X 335i, it's obviously worse, but I still enjoyed the way the car drove. Much better than what's out there in the same category.

Did you drive a MT one?

ttribe

That's part of the problem, though. The F30 was supposed to be the next great step in the evolution of the 3 (and 4, I guess) but, in many respects, it just hasn't turned out that way.

No. Just loaners, with (admittedly) varying degrees of options and packages.

JS + XES

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BMW is smart. They figured it out.

Jack up the price. Girls will still pay for the badge.

But no, girls won't pay a lot for TLX if at all.

Hapa DC5

BMW is very smart.

Overprice the car... "throw" in the maintenance program not really much to do in the first 50k miles especially when your oil changes extend 10k now.

The dealers make money and have retention in their fixed ops side.

More than 50% are leases so they turn 'em in get a new car increasing sales figures, the dealers get a well maintained CPO vehicle to sell.

Very smart indeed.

charliemike

I read that the engines will be essentially straight out of the Accord. I think it was Autoblog. That is where I recall the 273hp number.

VR1

This man speaks the truth.

charliemike

The concept looks great. Sadly the real car won't even be close.

fsttyms1

50k for a 3.5 liter NA (300hp ish) SH-AWD TLX They are on crack.

phile

seems like they're going the German route. No one pays the MSRP for those cars either. It just puffs up the price to give an air of luxury & wealth. I mean 46K isn't cheap, by any means, but it is a discount from 50k.

I think it's a good strategy as long as that luxury quotient is there, which I don't find Acuras to be that luxurious. The fake materials on the interior don't help that cause.

Fibonacci

Why don't you wait to see it and drive it before you hit the fail button. The Fifties called and they want their chrome bits back.

Fibonacci

I'll bet the volume models will sell at a price point significantly lower. Just like very few fully optioned 550x-drives are on the roads at 80 gizzle.

I think a V6 SH-AWD 9AT with TECH package that does less than 5.5 secs to 60 with the anticipated "red carpet" handling, some decent upgrades in NVH at around 43k real world pricing is a respectable value. If it doesn't have a man pedal option, I'll be seriously cross shopping some comps, but there are very few 6MT AWD V6 options out there.

The day Acura offers real wood and real aluminum trim will be they day they are officially tier1. Personally, I place a lower priority on both, but understand it is important to guys who cross shop BRZ's and Focus ST's.

charliemike

Not that part. They did it on the Accord coupe and it looks bad there too. The overall execution is better on the TLX.

I won't be driving one. I'm not paying $45-50K for an AWD Accord. When Acura gets serious about their engines and overall performance then I think they're an option.

Right now, this car is even more expensive and less of a value prop than the Regal GS.

fsttyms1

We have seen the spy shots of it, and even though its not a us model, its not going to be anything different looks wise other than maybe a trim piece or different color side markers (ie meaning its not going to look like the concept). It doesnt matter how well it drives if people dont like the styling and dont want to buy it. So yes, some can hit the fail button already. Id love to get myself into one for my next vehicle, but based on looks and price.....No thank you. For 50k i could get myself into a very very gently used CTS-V and have a far more enjoying car to look at and drive.

fsttyms1

CGTSX2004

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Not as nicely as the IS or even the ATS. The F30 chassis and steering are no longer best in class, which is what BMW was always known for. They have sacrificed their driving dynamics and driver involvement to cater to the softer crowd that actually buys their cars.

To get anything close to resembling the BMW of old, you have to step up to the M-Sport package or just buy an M3, which is $$$$$.

iforyou

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lol sorry guys for confusing all of you.....the prices I listed are MY guesstimates as mentioned in my post. However the trim levels were posted by one of our fellow Azine members:
https://acurazine.com/forums/5g-tlx-2015-2020-415/tlx-trim-level-color-lineup-906998/

Sorry again guys for not making it clear...

The Accord is actually rated at 278hp.

Acura stated that the 3.5L V6 in the TLX has direct injection. The Accord's engine does NOT have DI. Whichever magazine you were reading is probably wrong.....


$50k is the top of the line model. I'm more interested in the prices for other trims. I think those numbers are more important. The top model is just there so that Acura can stuff more high end features to the car.