SamDoe1

This is road presence (not even AMG version):



This is not:

justnspace

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let me drive the Super Sport!

ttribe

MTEAZY

Only if I get to drive the Challenger

SSFTSX

S class does not have any road presence as C and E look the same. Only the RLX will look different and is tallee for the whole body not just the roof.

justnspace

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this notice is informing you that you are now banned due to making up bullchit.
Thank you.

jwong77

You have to thank mr SSFTSX for bringing the comedy into this otherwise sad thread.

SamDoe1

Sure bro.

When you see the S in your rearview mirror, it means "get out of the way peasant". When you see the RLX it means, "lol that guy couldn't even afford the Lexus".

AZuser

You must have a different definition of road presence than me.

IMO, a car with strong road presence should be a head turner. It should make you stop and stare at it. It should make you think "Damn, that's a nice looking car." This in turn should elicit a desire to want that car. That desirability should translate into sales. That is the ultimate goal, right? Otherwise, what's the point?

This brings us to RLX sales. Pathetic. Now look at S class sales. They're more than 10x RLX sales. E class sales? 40x greater.

Does this MMC RLX have road presence? Yes, when compared to the current RLX. But will it make me stop and stare at it? I doubt it. Will it make me think "Damn, that's a nice looking car."? I doubt it. Will it elicit a desire in me to want to buy it? I doubt it.

But if you like it, that's cool. We all have different tastes and opinions.

iforyou

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I don't know man. The RLX MSRP is higher than a Lexus GS lol....that's IMO is the main reason the RLX is flopping hard.

SamDoe1

The RLX is supposed to compete with the LS though and with that competition (even with the GS for that matter), the RLX is a steaming pile of dog shit.

AZuser

Lexus LS MSRP is higher than RLX yet LS outsells RLX by at least 3x

S class MSRP is higher than RLX yet S class outsells RLX by at least 10x

oonowindoo

That is because strong road presence do not sell cars... since RLX got the strongest presence, that is why it is not selling.

RDX10

Is there anyway I can thank your posts multiple times? Absolutely 1000000% spot on. Thank you!

kurtatx

Class leading ground clearance and performance tires sell cars

ttribe

Don't forget proper nav placement.

CLtotheTL32

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Acura. What a horrid looking vehicle.

kurtatx

There are things about it I really like, but it seems to be a lot more jagged looking in the headlights than the TLX, which i think looks a lot better. Everything about the car also just looks kind of big. Big car, big smile, comically big logo.

Fibonacci

Well it is Acura's flagship, their largest sedan and to my eyes looks marginally better. Bypassing the crappy ZF 9AT is nothing but win. The dinner plate logo doesn't bother me, Benz does the same thing.

What bothers me is all the extra superfluous chrome bits and lack of adaptive dampers. Oh, and its almost 2018, so there is literally no excuse not to have CarPlay/AA.

oonowindoo

^ the thing is.. like you said it is Acura's flagship... while Civic has better tech in some areas than this "flag ship". - digital gauge. Carplay/AA. probably others.

SamDoe1

Benz does it because Benz. They have the reputation, presence, and brand cachet to pull it off. It just looks like superfluous bling on an Acura.

RPhilMan1

Damn that does not look good.

kurtatx

Yeah, it could be a lot better. I wouldn't have even bothered with an MMC for this

TacoBello

I like it way more than the original RLX.

oonowindoo

It does not matter if we like it or not. Can this translate to sales #... that is all it matters.

I might be wrong, but i will say.. NO!

TacoBello

No, of course not. If you're not buying an SH, why would you even consider the RLX, amongst the plethora of other cars in the same category? And seeing as they can't produce the SH vehicles fast enough, you bet sales will stay stagnant.

kurtatx

Why is there even a FWD RLX in the first place?

oonowindoo

Because Acura, because Audi and because it is cheaper and Because MPG... but no one mentioned because Acura is not Audi.

Nexx

not sure where youre getting that information. RLX was never intended to compete with the LS. GS yes.

kurtatx

The second part of his statement is more important and more accurate

RDX10

I don't understand why Acura is doing this on all their vehicles now. It's like they for the memo that "chrome = luxury" so now they are trying to stick some on wherever they can. Even Buick and cadillac have moved away from chrome and onto satin silver and even matte colors. Besides the chrome being gaudy and cheap looking, the placement is just so ugly as well. It looks like a mustache on the front. Had they left those chrome parts body color, it may have looked way better.

But ignoring all of that, perhaps what sucks the most is that they really didn't do anything at all. Different seats, new paint colors, and mildly updated front and rear facias. Now under normal circumstances this is what a mid cycle refresh is all about, but the pre-lift RLX was just so behind in so many ways that this really was a pointless effort. I am excited to see it in person though because I actually do think it looks WAAAAY better than the last model even with those chrome bits.

iforyou

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Hmm the RLX competes in the GS segment. Acura does not have LS competitor.

Quoting the wrong person?

TacoBello

Yeah, an LS is equivalent to the S class or 7 series. The RLX is more on par with the E class and 5 series and GS.

fsttyms1

again, you have no clue on what it takes to hit 200. This car is lacking 300+ hp to get it to 200.

fsttyms1

Sorry, Id still take the Genesis over this ANYDAY!. The Genesis looks better, has more interior room, is the proper drive and undoubtedly be in the shop less. The Genesis has road presence, the RLX not so much. It will still be a bland no one will notice vehicle driving down the road lucky to sell 350-400 units a year vehicle. Now go back to drinking your koolaid in fantasy land with the rest of the fanboys.

SamDoe1

I thought:

ILX=IS
TLX=GS
RLX=LS

I know that none of them are at all competitive with any Lexus regardless of intended competition but that's what would make sense to me...

iforyou

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It's more like this:

ILX: A3, CLA, Verano
TLX: A4, C Class, Q50, IS, ES, 3 series, ATS
RLX: A6, 5 series, E Class, Q70, GS, CTS, XTS

TacoBello

that's not even the biggest problem. The transmission gearing simply would not allow the car to go that fast. I'm sure it can't go over 160mph. Maybe a bit higher, but I doubt it.

iforyou

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May be not 200mph but all u need to do is fold the side mirrors and you will reach 190mph

justnspace

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tried it in the Type-R, yet?