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Old 03-13-2018, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
looks good... Are those 22s?
If they are, I'd replace them with 18's or 19's for lighter weight / better MPG (and lower tire cost).
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I'd bet a $2 that this 4000lbs thing won't get much better mpg mileage than the 2018, especially in city.

BTW, the Accord 2.0T manual gets only 22mpg, and the automatic 23mpg. Even an A4Q auto with 3 less gears gets 24. So does the 330i RWD with 2 less gears.

There WAS a reason why that glandular RDX 1st gen 2.3T got replaced with a NA V6....

Now stupid fashion just prevails again.
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They really need to chill out on the grille/faux grille openings. It's like half of the front fascia is black plastic a la Lexus.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
^ You ?


Is opting for smaller and lighter wheels a thing?
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Originally Posted by Saintor
I'd bet a $2 that this 4000lbs thing won't get much better mpg mileage than the 2018, especially in city.

BTW, the Accord 2.0T manual gets only 22mpg, and the automatic 23mpg. Even an A4Q auto with 3 less gears gets 24. So does the 330i RWD with 2 less gears.

There WAS a reason why that glandular RDX 1st gen 2.3T got replaced with a NA V6....

Now stupid fashion just prevails again.
The 2.0T will get better fuel economy than the V6 if it is driven normally. However the second you try and drive it aggressively those numbers will fall rapidly and be much worse than the V6 if all other cars ever are any indication. This reminds me of when Hyundai switched over from a 3.5l V6 to a 2.0T in the santa fe when they redesigned it in 2013 and on paper the 2.0T was supposed to get MUCH better fuel economy than the V6 but despite losing 200 pounds also, many owners who switched from older 3.3l and 3.5l V6 santa fe’s were on the forums complaining because when they drove the 2.0T like they used to drive their 3.5l V6 it was getting dismal numbers. Unfortunately (fortunately?) you have CAFE down the throats of all automakers and turbo 4’s get very good economy “on paper” but it’s been shown time and time again that they get shit numbers when driven hard.

I would like to see more small displacement turbo 6’s though (think fords 2.7l, BMW’s 3.0, Audi’s 3.0...etc). It’s small enough to get good economy without using the turbos, yet large enough to not need the turbos for moderate acceleration but it still has the capacity to produce big numbers with the turbos help since there is no replacement for displacement.

I owned a 1G RDX and I loved the 2.3T, for what it’s worth I used to see 19mpg on average with pure city driving and I absolutely drove it like it was stolen. I had no qualms with 19mpg city and it being as fast as it was and me driving it as hard as I did. So it’s not always bad.
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I owned a 1G RDX and I loved the 2.3T, for what it’s worth I used to see 19mpg on average with pure city driving and I absolutely drove it like it was stolen.
Well we would believe you if the RDX 4-cyl. turbo 1st gen wasn't rated 17mpg, EPA city.

22mpg highway lol!
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Well we would believe you if the RDX 4-cyl. turbo 1st gen wasn't rated 17mpg, EPA city.

22mpg highway lol!
I’m not the only one to get numbers like that but I couldn’t give less of a fuck if you believed me or not. I have zero reason to lie but rather I should have known talking to an idiot like yourself that I would get a dumbass reply like that one.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
I'd bet a $2 that this 4000lbs thing won't get much better mpg mileage than the 2018, especially in city.

BTW, the Accord 2.0T manual gets only 22mpg, and the automatic 23mpg. Even an A4Q auto with 3 less gears gets 24. So does the 330i RWD with 2 less gears.

There WAS a reason why that glandular RDX 1st gen 2.3T got replaced with a NA V6....

Now stupid fashion just prevails again.
I'm not sure if I got your point....sorry.

The A4Q and Accord 2.0T, AT vs AT, get similar mpg as both are rated 27mph combined, with the accord being slightly more powerful as shown by its 1/4 mile trap speed.

I'm not sure if there's much relevance comparing a 11 yr-old K23AT without DI and a brand new K20C4 with DI and what not as the former was essentially a random first attempt from Honda to make a turbo engine after a long time of such size, while the latter is much more developed.
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Is opting for smaller and lighter wheels a thing?
Your rationale is... since i guessed it right, there must be some truth to it
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The 2.3T was shit. Honda took a naturally aspirated engine and slapped a turbo on it... while they likely beefed some stuff up to handle the boost, the engine was never intended to go that route. And they likely put a super conservative tune on it, which dumped more fuel into the cylinders than necessary, to ensure no one was going into lean conditions and having their engine explode on them.

As already mentioned... his argument is null and void, as he is talking about stuff from the last decade. That engine has very little do to with the new ones.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
The 2.3T was shit. Honda took a naturally aspirated engine and slapped a turbo on it... while they likely beefed some stuff up to handle the boost, the engine was never intended to go that route. And they likely put a super conservative tune on it, which dumped more fuel into the cylinders than necessary, to ensure no one was going into lean conditions and having their engine explode on them.

As already mentioned... his argument is null and void, as he is talking about stuff from the last decade. That engine has very little do to with the new ones.
I really like the 2.3T but I can also say without a doubt that it had A LOT of short comings and things that made you go huh (like the top mount intercooler). It came out on the production RDX in 2007, but I am sure it is even older than that. So yes I agree 100% that you can not at all compare the almost 2 decade old 2.3T to the much more developed 2.0T but trying to have a normal convo with him is pointless, it’s going to go in circles. People only buy cars based on engine sounds, don’t forget that.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Your rationale is... since i guessed it right, there must be some truth to it
Don't people who want better performance usually go with lighter wheels? Added side benefit is better MPG. It gets to a point where large wheels looks ridiculous and is done just for looks.

Function > form
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It's just the money savings aspect that he's busting your balls about. That's why he asked if you're Asian
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
It's just the money savings aspect that he's busting your balls about. That's why he asked if you're Asian
I'd actually be spending more money since I'd want light weight forged wheels.

Volks G25 look nice on this MDX. Would probably look good on new RDX. (These are 20's though)


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Originally Posted by AZuser
I'd actually be spending more money since I'd want light weight forged wheels.

Volks G25 look nice on this MDX. Would probably look good on new RDX. (These are 20's though)

That’s a 1G RDX lol
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You know what I meant.
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Originally Posted by azuser
you know what i meant.
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Originally Posted by RDX10


I’m not the only one to get numbers like that but I couldn’t give less of a fuck if you believed me or not. I have zero reason to lie but rather I should have known talking to an idiot like yourself that I would get a dumbass reply like that one.
What a retard reply. EPA numbers for the RDX AWD 1st gen is really 17 / 22 mpg.

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I'm not sure if I got your point....sorry.
The "point" will be addressed when we'll see some real-life fuel economy of that RDX 3rd gen. And I wouldn't expect the city fuel economy to be significantly different from the "old" V6, If it is the same engine as the new Accord, this one is rated only 22mpg city with a light platform , which is not very good compared to 24mpg found in the 330i /A4Q.
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Fuel economy is for poor people.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
The "point" will be addressed when we'll see some real-life fuel economy of that RDX 3rd gen. And I wouldn't expect the city fuel economy to be significantly different from the "old" V6, If it is the same engine as the new Accord, this one is rated only 22mpg city with a light platform , which is not very good compared to 24mpg found in the 330i /A4Q.
I see. I've always said that the J35 in its current configuration is still highly competitive compared to most modern 2.0T out there. Honda has been developing this engine for the past 20 years, adding different technologies such as direct injection, cylinder deactivation, VTEC, etc. However, it seems like the J series has reached the end of the road as the engine architecture is from 20+ years ago. Inevitably, there will be limitations as to how much more it can be developed without costing a lot of money.

The 2.0T on the other hand is just the beginning. It looks like it will be here to stay for the next decade if not longer. It's based on a more modern design and I'd imagine there will be much room for further development.
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If you could spend $40k on a BRAND NEW car, then you should be able to afford +/- 5mpg without affecting anything. If you can't, go get a Prius.
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What a retard reply. EPA numbers for the RDX AWD 1st gen is really 17 / 22 mpg.
The only retard here is yourself. It is possible to beat EPA numbers, it’s not always the case for all vehicles but it is absolutely possible. Anyways done wasting time on you, feel free to continue living in past decades.
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If you could spend $40k on a BRAND NEW car, then you should be able to afford +/- 5mpg without affecting anything. If you can't, go get a Prius.
This is what always kills me about some people, literally have seen people pick one car over another because it got as little as 1mpg better than the other one even though they really liked the other vehicle more. Makes you sit and wonder the thought process sometimes.
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Originally Posted by RDX10


The only retard here is yourself. It is possible to beat EPA numbers, it’s not always the case for all vehicles but it is absolutely possible. Anyways done wasting time on you, feel free to continue living in past decades.

Now that you confirmed again your very dummy status, no surprise that you can't calculate mpg properly. The only reason you were getting better fuel economy than city figures is because you weren't doing totally city as per EPA ... is it too hard for you to understand?

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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
If you could spend $40k on a BRAND NEW car, then you should be able to afford +/- 5mpg without affecting anything. If you can't, go get a Prius.
Flawed argument. It is not anyhow close related to affordability. Thanks to marketing, carmakers are pushing new technologies invoking and selling improvements that don't materialize or give the real/exclusive advantage they were designed for.

Case in evidence:
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...39751&id=38882

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Originally Posted by Saintor
Now that you confirmed again your very dummy status, no surprise that you can't calculate mpg properly. The only reason you were getting better fuel economy than city figures is because you weren't doing totally city as per EPA ... is it too hard for you to understand?
Still not wasting anymore time on you.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Flawed argument. It is not anyhow close related to affordability. Thanks to marketing, carmakers are pushing new technologies invoking and selling improvements that don't materialize or give the real/exclusive advantage they were designed for.

Case in evidence:
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...39751&id=38882
The fact that you care so much about stupid MPG is flawed.
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The fact that you care so much about stupid MPG is flawed.
He cares so much about MPG and fuel costs that he'll put regular gas in his TLX vs premium to save a few cents
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
The fact that you care so much about stupid MPG is flawed.
I do! Only when I am sold something and it doesn't deliver. There are a lot of suckers here who just enjoy to be stiffed, I guess.

BTW, C&D's comment regarding QX50 2.0Toy 2019: "All this to win by 1mpg"

Lovely.

This should apply litterally to the RDX 2.0Toy 2019 as well.

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^ if it does not deliver, then maybe you should look at your right foot. '
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If anyone regularly hits EPA suggested fuel economy, they clearly are driving 10mph below the speed limit and take 3 city blocks to get up to that speed.

lol, but I must be getting fooled... for some reason my foot always stays buried all the way down on the throttle, and yet I can *never* hit those damn EPA numbers!
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
If anyone regularly hits EPA suggested fuel economy, they clearly are driving 10mph below the speed limit and take 3 city blocks to get up to that speed.

lol, but I must be getting fooled... for some reason my foot always stays buried all the way down on the throttle, and yet I can *never* hit those damn EPA numbers!
Yeah, you pretty much have to sit at 55 mph all the time to get close to the EPA numbers. You can't do that here; the speed limits are too high.
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2019 RDX crossover will be a huge driver of that potential shift.Ikeda, Acura's general manager, said there's a lot of buzz around the RDX, which will hit the market as the 1st Acura fully developed under an edgier design direction 1st relayed with the Precision concept that was shown at the 2016 Detroit auto show. Acura and its dealers, he said, are excited about what the RDX can do for the brand.

Speaking after Acura's make meeting, Ikeda described the dealer mood in Las Vegas as optimistic. He said the brand discussed how it wants to work with dealers to increase profitability.

Ikeda thinks the marketing around the critical RDX will need an emotional touch.

"This car has so many best-in-class features. Panoramic sunroof, 16-way adjustable seats. We told dealers when we market this thing, you're going to see all of these features come through," Ikeda told Automotive News. "This is the 1st new car in a while. We don't have to just talk about value and deals.We can sell this from an emotional perspective."

While Acura looks ahead to the RDX, its sedan lineup is showing encouraging signs. ILX sales increased 22 percent in February from the year-earlier period, and are up 9 percent through 2 months. The Acura TLX saw a 16 percent spike last month. TLX sales are trending 15 percent higher through February compared to the year-earlier period.

"Sedans, we know the weak spots. The numbers we need to be at, we're there right now. While the segment's all down, we're picking up share with all three models: RLX, TLX and ILX," Ikeda said. "If we can get momentum on our RDX and MDX, we think, especially with the new RDX coming, we're going to have a strong lineup going into the summer."

He added later: "We have a common understanding where we all want to take the brand. We have to do it in the right way. We had discussions around that. We've got a brand new product [with the RDX]. We're going to be very careful with what we do with this car. It's the right car for the right segment at the right time."

Dealer Jim Smail of Smail Auto Group in Greensburg, Pa., is confident in the brand's direction.

"I think the brand is going to be a true premium brand to contend with. The introduction of the RDX at the New York auto show is going to be a game changer for the segment and Acura particularly," Smail said after the make meeting. "As that moves forward, it's going to show the direction of Acura and where we're going. Acura has some pretty firm goals, but they're going to make them."

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^ They should use that 45 second intro as a commercial

Introduces MDX ASpec and hardly anyone is clapping. Sounds like maybe only 2 people clapping.

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