Acura: NSX News
04-27-2005, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
What Honda needs is something to battle the Vette. Why get a sub 300 hp car when you can have a 400 hp C6 with crazy torque to boot. The C5 handled on par with an NSX, the C6 and z06 outhandle the NSX all day. The NSX may be a looker, but it is aged already. And while the vettes never have awesome interiors, there is nothing special about the early 90's look of the NSX's interior. Also for 90k, you can get a decently equipped 911. Honda needs to stop with the all aluminum space aged shit and work on getting more power to less expensive car. If they do the suspension right, and keep the weight down a 350z range, but put some more damn power into it, they would have a winner.
The NSX is nice but most of the parts look like they belong in a civic.
Sorry but that doesn't look like 90,000 to me
04-27-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
OMFG are you serious? The last time I saw one at a dealership I was still in high school, and it cost $70,000. That was back when the Vigor and Legend were new. 
Back then I believe the NSX was $60,000 or so U.S.
04-27-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Sorry but that doesn't look like 90,000 to me
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
04-27-2005, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Ever sat in one?
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
but $90k price-tag is a misnomenclature... $79k (US) is what most folks can buy them now for...
04-27-2005, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Ever sat in one?
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
I have never driven one so I can't comment on it's capibilities. But the interior definitely shows its age in my opinion.
04-27-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Sat in one many times. Inside they are nothing special. The TL and RL are MUCH nicer on the inside than the NSX.
I have never driven one so I can't comment on it's capibilities. But the interior definitely shows its age in my opinion.
I have never driven one so I can't comment on it's capibilities. But the interior definitely shows its age in my opinion.
Quality-wise, they're about the same.
The NSX interior is definitely OLDER in design, i'll give you that.
Personally I LIKE the NSX interior. The new TL and RL have hoodlines and doorlines that are far too high. I LOVE the older Honda/Acuras that have low hoods, you feel more like a pilot than a car driver.
04-27-2005, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Just shows what happened to the Canadian dollar.
Back then I believe the NSX was $60,000 or so U.S.
Back then I believe the NSX was $60,000 or so U.S.
Nothing to do with the CAD dollar. Most Honda's and cars in General are cheaper in Canada than they are in the US. After conversion of course. There's a few exceptions. The NSX, STi, Viper and S2000 to name a few.
Example. A TL's US MSRP is 33,100 US. With today's favorable CAD excahnge (0.79) it works out to be about $41,700, about perfect. TL MSRP in Canada is $41,000
When our dollar was at 0.65 the TL was one hell of a bargain.
The S2K with todays excahnge should be about 42K CAD yet its 49K. The NSX should be about $111,000.
04-27-2005, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Nothing to do with the CAD dollar. Most Honda's and cars in General are cheaper in Canada than they are in the US. After conversion of course. There's a few exceptions. The NSX, STi, Viper and S2000 to name a few.
Example. A TL is 33,100 US. With today's favorable CAD excahnge (0.79) it works out to be about $41,700, about perfect.
When our dollar was at 0.65 the TL was one hell of a bargain.
The S2K with todays excahnge should be about 42K CAD yet its 49K. The NSX should be about $111,000.
Example. A TL is 33,100 US. With today's favorable CAD excahnge (0.79) it works out to be about $41,700, about perfect.
When our dollar was at 0.65 the TL was one hell of a bargain.
The S2K with todays excahnge should be about 42K CAD yet its 49K. The NSX should be about $111,000.
04-27-2005, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Nicer? Thats subjective.
Quality-wise, they're about the same.
The NSX interior is definitely OLDER in design, i'll give you that.
Personally I LIKE the NSX interior. The new TL and RL have hoodlines and doorlines that are far too high. I LOVE the older Honda/Acuras that have low hoods, you feel more like a pilot than a car driver.
Quality-wise, they're about the same.
The NSX interior is definitely OLDER in design, i'll give you that.
Personally I LIKE the NSX interior. The new TL and RL have hoodlines and doorlines that are far too high. I LOVE the older Honda/Acuras that have low hoods, you feel more like a pilot than a car driver.
04-27-2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Ever sat in one?
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
04-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I guess my problem with the NSX is that they should have had a new model out by now instead of the one that came out 15 years ago. With all the new technology out, think how much the NSX could benefit from it?
04-27-2005, 02:36 PM
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If Honda is still hesitating to release an all-new NSX, might as well kill it altogether. The NSX is out-dated. It seriously needs a new and much more powerful engine, as well as a new chassis.
04-27-2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
There are actually two generation of NSX's that have been built, not the same model for 15 years as you stated. Look at the Porsche 911 series of models. Porsche went a whole lot longer before making some major changes over the years since it's introduction back in 1963 (AKA 901). When you've got a very good design, don't mess with it until it's necessary. I agree, that the NSX needs a major engine upgrade, but only minor improvements in body style and interior.
04-27-2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Nicer? Thats subjective.
Quality-wise, they're about the same.
The NSX interior is definitely OLDER in design, i'll give you that.
Personally I LIKE the NSX interior. The new TL and RL have hoodlines and doorlines that are far too high. I LOVE the older Honda/Acuras that have low hoods, you feel more like a pilot than a car driver.
Quality-wise, they're about the same.
The NSX interior is definitely OLDER in design, i'll give you that.
Personally I LIKE the NSX interior. The new TL and RL have hoodlines and doorlines that are far too high. I LOVE the older Honda/Acuras that have low hoods, you feel more like a pilot than a car driver.
04-27-2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I didn't know that they classified the changes as a new generation? Wasn't that in 2002 when they changed the headlights to non pop ups?
What Changes Took Place For Each Model Year?
04-27-2005, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
No. It was when they went from 3.0L 5sp MT to a 3.2L 6sp MT for '97. Some NSX'ers consider this a next gen.
What Changes Took Place For Each Model Year?
What Changes Took Place For Each Model Year?
For 85-large, this should have happened a bit sooner than 2004.
Keyless entry was standard on my old 1996 Mercury Villager minivan and that was only about $22k. 
04-27-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuraGT-3
I take this from NSXPRIME, where I am a member
I remember that the NSX's philosophy was something like "the result of pursuing a dream instead of the competitors". I can totally feel this passion of the great Soichiro Honda from his once kick-all-butts NSX and his fleet of best in business motorcycles. When the old man was still alive, he would sacrifice some profits from his tremendous empire to build the best machines out there to win ALL bike races, Formula One, etc. With the decisions to cancel the HSC, S2000, and the mediocre F1 results, you just know the new direction of the company is to maximize the profit. From a business standpoint, these are good moves to make stockholders happy and secure future growth of the company. Honda will no doubt continue to be one of the bests in automotive industry building cars for the masses. Thank God the bikes are still the best in the motorcycle arena. I can see that the Honda company, now without the founder, will just grow financially. But Soichiro Honda's competitive passions for racing and innovations do not get carried on by his successors. I just miss that great man. OTOH, the Ferrari guys are doing a tremendous job in perpetuating that Ferrari mystique and racing success. Imagine Soichiro were still alive? He probably would have made the 1997 NSX a 3.5 L 330hp monster, a 2000 HSC with 400hp as a Modena eater, and a $150,000 2005 550hp Enzowho. Of course, the past 7 years of F1 were also won by Honda. That's what I would expect if he could continue to pursue his dream to be the best of the bests as he once was. Sure, the profit margin might suffer a little, but I think the company could afford to eat it too. And I am sure the European would have embraced and respected the Honda name a lot more and the resultant increase in European sales would help offset the projected loss of profit. Ahhh, all that what ifs........ That's what dreams are all about, right?
04-27-2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
OMFG are you serious? The last time I saw one at a dealership I was still in high school, and it cost $70,000. That was back when the Vigor and Legend were new.
I saw the price tag at the Toronto Autoshow this year.
04-27-2005, 03:59 PM
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'2004 Now standard equipment instead of options: Keyless entry'
For 85-large, this should have happened a bit sooner than 2004. Keyless entry was standard on my old 1996 Mercury Villager minivan and that was only about $22k.
For 85-large, this should have happened a bit sooner than 2004.
Keyless entry was standard on my old 1996 Mercury Villager minivan and that was only about $22k. 1) Needs a CTSC (450 crank HP)
2) A better sound system
To me, this would make it near perfect... I think the body style is timeless...
04-29-2005, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
lol....people, stop, complaining about keyless entry. it's a fuggin NSX for pete's sake......
who's pete and what's up with his sake?
04-30-2005, 10:35 AM
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I know these pictures have been posted a thousand times but I didn't see any in this thread. Knowing Honda/Acura for the cost efficient company that they are, I doubt that they would put tons of money into developing the HSC and in then turn around and scrap the NSX. That's just not the Honda way.
Out with the old and in with the new.
I spoke to the an Acura salesperson about three weeks ago and he told me that the new NSX will be cheaper with more hp. He said the thing that keeps the cost down the most is that the NSX is still hand built. He said that the new NSX will be on an assembly line which will decrease the cost of the car. He told me the NSX will have a $50,000 version and then a $60,000 version. At least this is what I was told.
Out with the old and in with the new.
I spoke to the an Acura salesperson about three weeks ago and he told me that the new NSX will be cheaper with more hp. He said the thing that keeps the cost down the most is that the NSX is still hand built. He said that the new NSX will be on an assembly line which will decrease the cost of the car. He told me the NSX will have a $50,000 version and then a $60,000 version. At least this is what I was told.
04-30-2005, 11:00 AM
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I would take what a salesperson states with a grain of salt. But it would be a travesty if Honda didnt produce that HSC. 
04-30-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Ever sat in one?
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
Its handbuilt and the quality, especially the dash and seating prove it.
Ever DRIVEN one?
The $90,000 is self evident again with the all aluminum body and an engine sound that causes wet dreams.
Don't really see the relation between being handbuilt and the quality/dash/ or seating. Would think most car interiors today are all hand built. Think the only tangible thing about the nsx being "hand built" is the workers are most likely some of hondas best.
As far as driving one, a car should not need to be 90k to perform.
And for the aluminum body, how great is that when car stills weighs in 3100lbs, yet its only marginally larger than an rsx? I can see justifying money spent on carbon fiber, aluminum, composites, whatever if the materials result in lightweight cars.
07-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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NSX Successor to be announced tonight
NSX Successor to be announced tonight, '05 is final year of current model
Date: July 11, 2005 18:54
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We've just received word that a memo was circulated to Acura dealers today regarding an announcement that will be made "this evening" with respect to the future of the NSX. In particular the memo advises that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of this year due to strict '06 standards for emissions and equipment in US, Europe and Asia.
The memo says that "it is too early to discuss specific details" (of the next NSX model), but it continues by saying that this "ultra high-performance vehicle will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX was when introduced fifteen years ago."
This is all we know at this point. If we were to guess, it seems that perhaps the official announcement will be released on http://world.honda.com.
Film at 11.
UPDATE: we've just learned that "this evening" means 7PM Pacific Time.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=378278
Date: July 11, 2005 18:54
Submitted by: Jeff
Source: anonymous
Credibility Rating: 10
We've just received word that a memo was circulated to Acura dealers today regarding an announcement that will be made "this evening" with respect to the future of the NSX. In particular the memo advises that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of this year due to strict '06 standards for emissions and equipment in US, Europe and Asia.
The memo says that "it is too early to discuss specific details" (of the next NSX model), but it continues by saying that this "ultra high-performance vehicle will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX was when introduced fifteen years ago."
This is all we know at this point. If we were to guess, it seems that perhaps the official announcement will be released on http://world.honda.com.
Film at 11.
UPDATE: we've just learned that "this evening" means 7PM Pacific Time.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=378278
07-12-2005, 12:02 AM
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What Acura Fans Have Been Waiting 15+ Years For...
Acura Developing a Successor to NSX
Current Generation NSX Production to Halt at Year End
"TORRANCE, Calif. 07/11/2005 -- To further enhance the division's performance image, Acura is developing a new sports car to succeed the award-winning NSX supercar. Acura also announced that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of the year due to the extensive retooling necessary to meet stringent 2006 emissions and equipment regulations for the U.S., Europe and Asia.
"We are committed to having an ultra high-performance vehicle in the Acura lineup in the future," said John Mendel, senior vice president, automobile operations. "It's too early to comment on specifics, but the all-new model will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX."
As the first-ever supercar from Japan, the NSX was created as a hand-built, exotic, mid-engine sports car that would establish entirely new levels of performance, refinement and drivability. The NSX went on sale in the summer of 1990 and the following year posted record U.S. sales of 1,940 vehicles. Through June of 2005, NSX cumulative sales totaled 8,854 in the U.S. and more than 18,000 worldwide.
During its 15-year run, the NSX has been showered with accolades including, Automobile Magazine's "Automobile of the Year and Design of the Year" awards, Popular Science's "Best of What's New," Road &Track's "Ten Best Cars in the World" list. Motor Trend magazine also named the NSX to its "Top Ten Performance Cars" list and touted it as "the best sports car ever built."
Acura designed the NSX as a technological and performance showcase. Among other innovations, it was the first production car to feature an all-aluminum body, chassis, and suspension and to utilize titanium connecting rods. It featured a transversely mounted dual overhead cam V-6 engine equipped with Acura's breakthrough VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) system and a variable volume induction system.
Over time, the NSX received continuous updates to ensure its competitiveness and popularity with serious sports car enthusiasts. The NSX has also captured multiple championships in the highest levels of sports car and prototype racing.
Additional Acura information and downloadable high-resolution images of the NSX are available at www.acuranews.com."
Current Generation NSX Production to Halt at Year End
"TORRANCE, Calif. 07/11/2005 -- To further enhance the division's performance image, Acura is developing a new sports car to succeed the award-winning NSX supercar. Acura also announced that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of the year due to the extensive retooling necessary to meet stringent 2006 emissions and equipment regulations for the U.S., Europe and Asia.
"We are committed to having an ultra high-performance vehicle in the Acura lineup in the future," said John Mendel, senior vice president, automobile operations. "It's too early to comment on specifics, but the all-new model will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX."
As the first-ever supercar from Japan, the NSX was created as a hand-built, exotic, mid-engine sports car that would establish entirely new levels of performance, refinement and drivability. The NSX went on sale in the summer of 1990 and the following year posted record U.S. sales of 1,940 vehicles. Through June of 2005, NSX cumulative sales totaled 8,854 in the U.S. and more than 18,000 worldwide.
During its 15-year run, the NSX has been showered with accolades including, Automobile Magazine's "Automobile of the Year and Design of the Year" awards, Popular Science's "Best of What's New," Road &Track's "Ten Best Cars in the World" list. Motor Trend magazine also named the NSX to its "Top Ten Performance Cars" list and touted it as "the best sports car ever built."
Acura designed the NSX as a technological and performance showcase. Among other innovations, it was the first production car to feature an all-aluminum body, chassis, and suspension and to utilize titanium connecting rods. It featured a transversely mounted dual overhead cam V-6 engine equipped with Acura's breakthrough VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) system and a variable volume induction system.
Over time, the NSX received continuous updates to ensure its competitiveness and popularity with serious sports car enthusiasts. The NSX has also captured multiple championships in the highest levels of sports car and prototype racing.
Additional Acura information and downloadable high-resolution images of the NSX are available at www.acuranews.com."
07-12-2005, 02:08 AM
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I would like....
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
07-12-2005, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SDCGTSX
I would like....
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
How about one of these too?
07-12-2005, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SDCGTSX
I would like....
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
07-12-2005, 02:16 AM
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10,000 RPM! Holy crap! But hey, I don't think the world had ever seen 9,000 RPM for the price when the s2000 came out. Oh, and 240 HP out of a 2.0L I4. If Honda produces a V8 (Mugen's M1 Concept may be a hint), make it low displacement (4.0-4.2L), with 440+ HP! Oh, and please, TORQUE! 0-60 in 3.9-4.1 seconds would be awesome, with handling that would make it renown more for its road-grip than its straight line speed 
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Originally Posted by SDCGTSX
I would like....
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
1. 400+ HP (figure it out w/o using a V8 that you hate so much)
2. 0-60 in less than 4.0 secs
3. 1/4 mile in less than 11.0 secs
3. Price less than $100,000
4. 60-0 break distance of less than 115 m
5. Maybe a hybrid system that allows at least 20 / 28 gas mileage
6. Less than 2900 lbs
7. Better or as good suspensions as a Lotus Elise
8. Redline of at least 10,000. Might as well make it racing level of performance
9. A GOOD LOOKING, EYE CATCHING, SMOOTH OPERATING, SEXY, CHICK MAGNET, MEN ENVYING, THRILLING TO DRIVE, HIGH TECH, MACHINE OF OUR DREAMS.
You are fucking nuts if you think anyone can produce a car to fit all those needs and still be less than $100k