Acura: NSX News
#4441
Moderator
Last edited by ttribe; 10-10-2014 at 10:42 AM.
#4443
I drive a Subata.
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The point is that this car is not coming out.
#4444
Senior Moderator
I think the point of this car is to use your darn imagination. It also will bring about world peace.
#4447
Engineer
The i8 is not really in the same league - it's more in line with the Caddy XLR - a tarted up Volt. And for less money the tree hugger crowd would buy the Tesla.
All of the specs and details of the car are probably fairly set for now -the delay now is buidling out the manufacturing plant, lining up the suppliers and getting things ready for the production line. And like the original NSX it's unlikely we'll see many variations.
All of the specs and details of the car are probably fairly set for now -the delay now is buidling out the manufacturing plant, lining up the suppliers and getting things ready for the production line. And like the original NSX it's unlikely we'll see many variations.
The i9 or M variant, will likely be more of a direct competitor to the NSX. That will have 500hp plus powertrain.
#4448
Moderator
#4449
Itz JDM y0!
I don't really see anyone cross shopping an i8 with the NSX.
NSX is more GTR/911 Turbo crowd,
i8 is more M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage crowd imo. It's more of a sexy GT luxury coupe. In car and driver's tests, the M4 is actually quicker then the i8. I'm sure the i8 has a completely different driving expierence though.
NSX is more GTR/911 Turbo crowd,
i8 is more M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage crowd imo. It's more of a sexy GT luxury coupe. In car and driver's tests, the M4 is actually quicker then the i8. I'm sure the i8 has a completely different driving expierence though.
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#4450
Moderator
I don't really see anyone cross shopping an i8 with the NSX.
NSX is more GTR/911 Turbo crowd,
i8 is more M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage crowd imo. It's more of a sexy GT luxury coupe. In car and driver's tests, the M4 is actually quicker then the i8. I'm sure the i8 has a completely different driving expierence though.
NSX is more GTR/911 Turbo crowd,
i8 is more M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage crowd imo. It's more of a sexy GT luxury coupe. In car and driver's tests, the M4 is actually quicker then the i8. I'm sure the i8 has a completely different driving expierence though.
#4451
Some dude
#4452
I'm the Firestarter
#4453
Itz JDM y0!
The R36 GTR will have hybrid tech aswell, but I get what your saying. I consider the NSX to be more performance oriented. I believe they said performance of a 458, and of that's true it will be quite ahead (performance wise) of the i8. I'm think the i8 will have a nicer interior, more technology, and be a nicer daily driver overall. I would see someone shopping a Maserati Granturismo or V8 Vantage cross shop the i8.
#4454
Race Director
#4455
I drive a Subata.
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#4458
Moderator
#4459
I drive a Subata.
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#4462
Whats up with RDX owners?
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I don't know why you guys think benchmarking the NSX against the 458 is so difficult. They've already matched it in one category:
#4464
Moderator
I stand corrected.
#4465
I drive a Subata.
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#4466
Suzuka Master
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Among the info was a strong estimate of the NSX's performance potential. "We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari," said Klaus to What Car?. "More importantly we have to achieve this every day and also at the Nürburgring." Assuming Acura's supercar is as actually quick as a 458 Italia, then it could hit 60 miles per hour in around 3.5 seconds.
#4467
Moderator
I'm just repeating what honda/acura has stated, that the benchmark is the 458. i8 does not compete against 458.
2016 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8 - Autoblog
2016 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8 - Autoblog
Oh, and Road & Track: BMW i8 Real-World Test Results - 0 To 60 MPH In 3.8 Seconds
Sub-4 sounds like it's worth considering.
#4468
Suzuka Master
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If it does actually hang with the 458, that would be awesome. But, until they actually hand over a working prototype for independent testing I, for one, remain skeptical. Acura has done plenty in the last 10 years to cause me to lose any modicum of trust in their "official" statements regarding upcoming cars.
Oh, and Road & Track: BMW i8 Real-World Test Results - 0 To 60 MPH In 3.8 Seconds
Sub-4 sounds like it's worth considering.
Sub-4 sounds like it's worth considering.
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#4469
Whats up with RDX owners?
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*successful meaning championship winning
I agree with you here. The 458 can hit 60 half a second quicker than the i8. The i8 is a cool GT car; but it is not an outright sports car.
#4470
Suzuka Master
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It's been over 20 years since Honda's last successful* F1 engine - funny how that lines up with the first gen NSX release. They are getting back into the sport next season, but it's going to be very tough to match the efficiency, reliability and outright power of the MB engines.
*successful meaning championship winning
*successful meaning championship winning
when you are hitting 60 in under 4, half a second is a lot.
#4471
Whats up with RDX owners?
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But, I'm having a hard time seeing how that can effect their road cars when the trickle down effect to their F1 technology isn't immediate - unless of course that's a sign that the NSX isn't coming out until 2020 at the earliest.
Fun fact - when Honda pulled the plug on their factory team for the '09 season, Ross Brawn bought them out and got MB to supply the engine. Brawn GP won the constructors and drivers championship that year. That must have stung a bit for Honda.
#4472
Pro
That's not exactly what I was saying. Their engine supplying venture in the 2000s didn't pan out all that great. They ended up buying out BAR and became a constructor, and that ended worse. So, yes, they have made successful engines in the past, but their more recent history isn't as bright.
But, I'm having a hard time seeing how that can effect their road cars when the trickle down effect to their F1 technology isn't immediate - unless of course that's a sign that the NSX isn't coming out until 2020 at the earliest.
Fun fact - when Honda pulled the plug on their factory team for the '09 season, Ross Brawn bought them out and got MB to supply the engine. Brawn GP won the constructors and drivers championship that year. That must have stung a bit for Honda.
But, I'm having a hard time seeing how that can effect their road cars when the trickle down effect to their F1 technology isn't immediate - unless of course that's a sign that the NSX isn't coming out until 2020 at the earliest.
Fun fact - when Honda pulled the plug on their factory team for the '09 season, Ross Brawn bought them out and got MB to supply the engine. Brawn GP won the constructors and drivers championship that year. That must have stung a bit for Honda.
I would think so. Hopefully it's a lesson that Honda still remembers today, as they return to F1.
On the other hand, Brawn did use the Honda chassis, correct?
#4473
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#4474
Engineer
Guys, comparisons to the i8 are going to be made regardless of what benchmark the NSX sets. Both are going to be mid-100k sports cars with hybrid mid-engined layout.
Price-wise, I am sure the i8 is already cutting into what could have been NSX sales. People are going to inevitably compare and cross-shop these cars.
Before you jump into the performance specs, realize that the i9 (M iteration with 500+hp and more hardcore setup) will be more of a direct competitor to the NSX. Also, I thought I heard there was a hybrid R8 coming?
Rumor: BMW i9 Supercar is a Go - BimmerFile
Regardless, it's good to see the competition. It will create a better end result for everyone.
Price-wise, I am sure the i8 is already cutting into what could have been NSX sales. People are going to inevitably compare and cross-shop these cars.
Before you jump into the performance specs, realize that the i9 (M iteration with 500+hp and more hardcore setup) will be more of a direct competitor to the NSX. Also, I thought I heard there was a hybrid R8 coming?
Rumor: BMW i9 Supercar is a Go - BimmerFile
Regardless, it's good to see the competition. It will create a better end result for everyone.
#4475
Team Owner
yup.
With the Poodick designer coming for the i9, and the performance #s from the i8 with little 3 banger turbo, we can safely assume that the i9 will be right up there...
Thank you
With the Poodick designer coming for the i9, and the performance #s from the i8 with little 3 banger turbo, we can safely assume that the i9 will be right up there...
Thank you
#4476
I drive a Subata.
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Guys, comparisons to the i8 are going to be made regardless of what benchmark the NSX sets. Both are going to be mid-100k sports cars with hybrid mid-engined layout.
Price-wise, I am sure the i8 is already cutting into what could have been NSX sales. People are going to inevitably compare and cross-shop these cars.
Before you jump into the performance specs, realize that the i9 (M iteration with 500+hp and more hardcore setup) will be more of a direct competitor to the NSX. Also, I thought I heard there was a hybrid R8 coming?
Rumor: BMW i9 Supercar is a Go - BimmerFile
Regardless, it's good to see the competition. It will create a better end result for everyone.
Price-wise, I am sure the i8 is already cutting into what could have been NSX sales. People are going to inevitably compare and cross-shop these cars.
Before you jump into the performance specs, realize that the i9 (M iteration with 500+hp and more hardcore setup) will be more of a direct competitor to the NSX. Also, I thought I heard there was a hybrid R8 coming?
Rumor: BMW i9 Supercar is a Go - BimmerFile
Regardless, it's good to see the competition. It will create a better end result for everyone.
#4477
2G TLX-S
The Mercedes powerplant was the most powerful F1 engine at that time.
In fact, it was so runaway powerful that FIA had to force Mercedes to detune the motor for the following seasons, in order to level out the playing field.
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#4478
I feel the need...
As for the i8 (i9) as you said, the more product offerings, the better for consumers. Haven't grown in love with the i8 design yet. The current pre-prodution NSX design I am quite smitten with. If its a total dud, I will move along as my patience has already been sorely tested. Sounds like its still 18 months from production.
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NSX volumes will be so low, I doubt we'll really see much in the way of cross-shopping. People who can afford these kind of cars usually have more than one and there is probably enough pent-up demand for the NSX among Honda enthusiasts to keep the order book full for a while. My dealer says allocation will be one per year, so if you want one, you'll have to stand in line.
As for the i8 (i9) as you said, the more product offerings, the better for consumers. Haven't grown in love with the i8 design yet. The current pre-prodution NSX design I am quite smitten with. If its a total dud, I will move along as my patience has already been sorely tested. Sounds like its still 18 months from production.
As for the i8 (i9) as you said, the more product offerings, the better for consumers. Haven't grown in love with the i8 design yet. The current pre-prodution NSX design I am quite smitten with. If its a total dud, I will move along as my patience has already been sorely tested. Sounds like its still 18 months from production.
#4480
AZ Community Team
But make no mistake, it was a Honda (nee BAR nee Tyrell) chassis.
BBC - Andrew Benson: The remarkable story of Brawn GP