Acura: NSX News
10-07-2014, 06:29 PM
#4404
Itz JDM y0!
2004-2006 Lamborghini Gallardo
Porsche 991 GT3
Porssche 991 Turbo
R35/Next Gen GTR
5.2 V10/V8 R8
NSX
SRT Viper
C7 Z06
Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Maserati Granturismo
Ferrari 360 Modena
Honestly tho I'd probably get the Maserati Granturismo, NSX, or GT3.
10-07-2014, 06:34 PM
#4405
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10-07-2014, 06:40 PM
#4406
I feel the need...
My list:
991 GTS
458
Huracan
NSX
Surprised the GTS is not out yet, by default that option is in the lead because of probable manual transmission option and I'm a tightwad.
991 GTS
458
Huracan
NSX
Surprised the GTS is not out yet, by default that option is in the lead because of probable manual transmission option and I'm a tightwad.
10-07-2014, 07:52 PM
#4408
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So they are targeting the 458, which is basically in the end of its cycle and will be coming out soon with a turbocharged V6 making over 100hp more than the V8 is now. And the next GT-R sounds like it will combine hybrid tech, and i highly doubt it will be less of a machine than it is currently. So in other words, Honda will be playing catch up right from the beginning 
They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
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10-07-2014, 08:05 PM
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So they are targeting the 458, which is basically in the end of its cycle and will be coming out soon with a turbocharged V6 making over 100hp more than the V8 is now. And the next GT-R sounds like it will combine hybrid tech, and i highly doubt it will be less of a machine than it is currently. So in other words, Honda will be playing catch up right from the beginning They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
They took FAR too long to get this car to market.I'm imagining this car is able to give BJs, fly, chew bubblegum, and go 0-60 in -342 seconds. Yeah, you get time back.
Baby.
10-07-2014, 08:41 PM
#4411
I feel the need...
Would most of us prefer a simpler M/R drivetrain with the awesome V10 shelved earlier?
10-07-2014, 09:28 PM
#4413
Team Owner
NSX... who cares about a house.
Just make sure you buy some good fire insurance coverage.
Just make sure you buy some good fire insurance coverage.
10-07-2014, 11:05 PM
#4414
Here's what NSX development chief Ted Klaus told What Car:
However, he said that the intention is to keep Honda's new petrol-electric hybrid supercar more affordable than the 458. 'I think we are aiming within the range of the Audi R8,' he said. 'I realise that is a wide range but the NSX will still be extremely accessible.'
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10-07-2014, 11:09 PM
#4415
10-08-2014, 12:16 AM
#4416
Burning Brakes
So they are targeting the 458, which is basically in the end of its cycle and will be coming out soon with a turbocharged V6 making over 100hp more than the V8 is now. And the next GT-R sounds like it will combine hybrid tech, and i highly doubt it will be less of a machine than it is currently. So in other words, Honda will be playing catch up right from the beginning They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
10-08-2014, 01:25 AM
#4417
2G TLX-S
Wait a minute.
A Category-5 super typhoon is heading towards Japan this weekend.
This will be another excellent excuse to further delay the NSX rollout.
AOL.com Article - Super typhoon Vongfong, the strongest storm of 2014, is barreling across Pacific towards Japan
A Category-5 super typhoon is heading towards Japan this weekend.
This will be another excellent excuse to further delay the NSX rollout.
AOL.com Article - Super typhoon Vongfong, the strongest storm of 2014, is barreling across Pacific towards Japan
10-08-2014, 06:58 AM
#4419
Senior Moderator
This would be like Honda benchmarking the 06-11 Camry for the current Accord. Would any of us be happy or saying we should be lucky its coming out and saying better they get it right than rush it out prematurely? They have had far too long to get it right, this car should be on its MMC already, if not a 3rd gen by now!
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10-08-2014, 07:00 AM
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It doesn't matter what car Honda targeted or when. Honda's MO is to always put out cars with just enough HP. They have never led the HP race and any car they've put out has just been adequate in the power dept. The new Acura NSX is no different. If they were starting with a clean sheet design and could put the car on sale in 12 months from today, it still would have less power than the GTR or 458 or any other car they're targeting b/c that's just how they are.
IF you are benchmarking certain cars, you want to be competitive, All the competitors will have bested them and they will have nothing to brag about. SImple fact is is they are BEHIND and this vehicle should have been released long ago.
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10-08-2014, 08:48 AM
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10-08-2014, 12:10 PM
#4423
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NSX with a trailer! Problem solved.
10-08-2014, 12:15 PM
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So they are targeting the 458, which is basically in the end of its cycle and will be coming out soon with a turbocharged V6 making over 100hp more than the V8 is now. And the next GT-R sounds like it will combine hybrid tech, and i highly doubt it will be less of a machine than it is currently. So in other words, Honda will be playing catch up right from the beginning They took FAR too long to get this car to market.
They took FAR too long to get this car to market.However, I'd hesitate to say that Honda took far too long to get this car to the market. Rather, I think the official decision to make the new NSX came too late.
Forget about the rumours or the HSV-010, the 2G NSX concept was first shown to the world in 2012 in the North American Auto Show, it was just a mockup. At that time, Honda said the actual car would be shown by 2015. The latest news above still says the production car will be shown in 2015, so that hasn't really changed. However, even if there's any delay to 2016, I wouldn't be too surprised.
The original concept was that the powertrain and drivetrain will basically be a tuned and flipped version of the system in the RLX - 400-450hp combined, transversely mounted 3.5L NA engine. As we all know, that plan is now scrapped. Honda showed us a new layout with proper longitudinally mounted engine, with a 3.xL TURBO engine. If there's a slight delay because of this change, I don't know about you guys, but I'm all for it.
When you think about it, Honda is literally building a brand new super car from scratch in 3-4 years, from early 2012 to late 2015. That's a little too ambitious.
Look at the time between the first launch of C6 and C7, 9 years. What about the LFA from concept to production? 10 years, from 2000 to 2010. How about the GT-R? That's a little faster, about 6-7 years (2000-2007). The same can be said for cars such as Lambo Huracan (launched after the Gallardo had been for 11 years), Ferrari 458 (2004-2010), etc. The R8 was faster, as the Le Mans concept came out in 2003, and the actual R8 came out in 2007, but that car was heavily based on the Gallardo, not exactly designed from scratch.
I totally understand that people are disappointed with Honda cancelling plans (RWD platform, V8, HSV-010). But I think that's another topic and shouldn't be mixed into the 2G NSX development time discussion.
10-08-2014, 12:15 PM
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Nah, use the NSX to pull ladies and sleep over at their place. Just like that homeless guy in NYC 
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10-08-2014, 01:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure this was an unintentional oh-snap-snark at the NSX...but, I found it hilarious... 
Note the part I put in bold.
Source: Acura NSX to arrive in 2016, match Audi R8 price | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
Note the part I put in bold.
Honda has reportedly confirmed that its Acura NSX will first arrive on the market in late 2015 or early 2016.
The company promises its long-awaited supercar will bring enough performance to take on the Ferrari 458 Italia, but with a price tag that falls somewhere within the Audi R8's bracket.
"We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari," NSX development head Ted Klaus told What Car?.
To match the prancing horse off the line, the NSX will need to reach 60 mph from a standstill in less than 3.3 seconds. The Ferrari sets the benchmark with a V8 sending 398 lb-ft of torque to the rear wheels, while Honda's supercar opts for a Sport-Hybrid all-wheel-drive setup that pairs a V6 with three electric motors.
The latest update follows less than three months after spy shots showed the NSX in near-production form, put through its paces around the Nurburgring circuit.
The company will first unveil the basic NSX coupe late in 2015 ahead of a US launch, while a convertible and higher-performance edition are already under consideration for later availability.
The company promises its long-awaited supercar will bring enough performance to take on the Ferrari 458 Italia, but with a price tag that falls somewhere within the Audi R8's bracket.
"We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari," NSX development head Ted Klaus told What Car?.
To match the prancing horse off the line, the NSX will need to reach 60 mph from a standstill in less than 3.3 seconds. The Ferrari sets the benchmark with a V8 sending 398 lb-ft of torque to the rear wheels, while Honda's supercar opts for a Sport-Hybrid all-wheel-drive setup that pairs a V6 with three electric motors.
The latest update follows less than three months after spy shots showed the NSX in near-production form, put through its paces around the Nurburgring circuit.
The company will first unveil the basic NSX coupe late in 2015 ahead of a US launch, while a convertible and higher-performance edition are already under consideration for later availability.
Source: Acura NSX to arrive in 2016, match Audi R8 price | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
10-08-2014, 02:58 PM
#4427
2016 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8
2016 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8 - Autoblog
i think that'll be a fair assessment
the original NSX was supposed to be very competitive to the ferrari, long before R8 intro
would love to see if top gear, motortrend or someone do a head to head comparision once its released
i just hope the halo car isn't just playing catch-up, instead of pioneering something that the competition fears as a threat
2016 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8 - Autoblog
i think that'll be a fair assessment
the original NSX was supposed to be very competitive to the ferrari, long before R8 intro
would love to see if top gear, motortrend or someone do a head to head comparision once its released
i just hope the halo car isn't just playing catch-up, instead of pioneering something that the competition fears as a threat
10-08-2014, 03:32 PM
#4428
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^ Read post 4419.
10-09-2014, 12:05 AM
#4429
Burning Brakes
So we should be happy with this type of thinking?? IF you are benchmarking certain cars, you want to be competitive, All the competitors will have bested them and they will have nothing to brag about. SImple fact is is they are BEHIND and this vehicle should have been released long ago.
IF you are benchmarking certain cars, you want to be competitive, All the competitors will have bested them and they will have nothing to brag about. SImple fact is is they are BEHIND and this vehicle should have been released long ago.I would love to buy a 6 speed manual sports sedan from Honda/Acura that can credibly compete against the 335i or S4 or, better yet, the M3/4 and RS4/5. But we know that will never happen. So... I drive BMWs now and put up with glitchy electronics and dubious reliability.
10-09-2014, 12:44 AM
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Subtract two doors from your needs/wants and get an S2000 
10-09-2014, 07:02 AM
#4431
New Honda NSX on sale in 2016 - What Car?
The new Honda NSX will go on sale early in 2016 and will be aimed at the Ferrari 458 Italia in terms of performance, according to Ted Klaus, the NSX's head of development.
'We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari,' said Klaus. 'More importantly we have to achieve this every day and also at the Nurburgring.'
However, he said that the intention is to keep Honda's new petrol-electric hybrid supercar more affordable than the 458. 'I think we are aiming within the range of the Audi R8,' he said. 'I realise that is a wide range but the NSX will still be extremely accessible.'
Klaus also said that Honda aims to match the sales figure of the Audi R8, rather than those of the much more popular Porsche 911. 'We will not seek to meet demand – there is value in making the product rare,' he said.
However, while there might not be loads of NSXs sold, customers are eventually likely to have a choice of different bodystyles and power outputs.
'I think we would be foolish to develop NSX without open-top intentions down the road,' said Klaus. 'Should you do a convertible first, should you do a higher performance version first – these are challenges for us to consider.'
He also said that Honda is planning to make the new NSX the cleanest and most efficient supercar in its class. 'The 911 is the most efficient performance car today and we will be well clear of that.'
Honda has shown a racing version of the new NSX, which features a 2.0-litre petrol engine and a 'racing hybrid system'. The production version is due on sale in 2015, initially in North America, with Europe getting cars shortly afterwards.
The production version is set to be revealed at the November 2015 Tokyo motor show, with sales following in the Uk from early 2016. To date, 80 customers have pre-ordered cars in the UK.
The new Honda NSX will go on sale early in 2016 and will be aimed at the Ferrari 458 Italia in terms of performance, according to Ted Klaus, the NSX's head of development.
'We have to achieve the type of acceleration that the customer is achieving with the Ferrari,' said Klaus. 'More importantly we have to achieve this every day and also at the Nurburgring.'
However, he said that the intention is to keep Honda's new petrol-electric hybrid supercar more affordable than the 458. 'I think we are aiming within the range of the Audi R8,' he said. 'I realise that is a wide range but the NSX will still be extremely accessible.'
Klaus also said that Honda aims to match the sales figure of the Audi R8, rather than those of the much more popular Porsche 911. 'We will not seek to meet demand – there is value in making the product rare,' he said.
However, while there might not be loads of NSXs sold, customers are eventually likely to have a choice of different bodystyles and power outputs.
'I think we would be foolish to develop NSX without open-top intentions down the road,' said Klaus. 'Should you do a convertible first, should you do a higher performance version first – these are challenges for us to consider.'
He also said that Honda is planning to make the new NSX the cleanest and most efficient supercar in its class. 'The 911 is the most efficient performance car today and we will be well clear of that.'
Honda has shown a racing version of the new NSX, which features a 2.0-litre petrol engine and a 'racing hybrid system'. The production version is due on sale in 2015, initially in North America, with Europe getting cars shortly afterwards.
The production version is set to be revealed at the November 2015 Tokyo motor show, with sales following in the Uk from early 2016. To date, 80 customers have pre-ordered cars in the UK.
10-09-2014, 10:28 AM
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Yup, what car, indeed.
10-09-2014, 11:00 AM
#4434
Engineer
A major problem for the NSX is going to be that the BMW i8 just beat them to the punch. They offer the looks, some decent performance, and hybrid tech for about the same as a base R8. Oh and they are following it up with a higher performance i9 which will probably hit the market around the same time as the NSX.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
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10-09-2014, 11:13 AM
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A major problem for the NSX is going to be that the BMW i8 just beat them to the punch. They offer the looks, some decent performance, and hybrid tech for about the same as a base R8. Oh and they are following it up with a higher performance i9 which will probably hit the market around the same time as the NSX.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
10-09-2014, 12:54 PM
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A major problem for the NSX is going to be that the BMW i8 just beat them to the punch. They offer the looks, some decent performance, and hybrid tech for about the same as a base R8. Oh and they are following it up with a higher performance i9 which will probably hit the market around the same time as the NSX.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
Consider the R8. It first launched with the V8, they sold a bunch and then followed up with the V10 and other higher performance versions. BMW is following the same recipe. Start with the i8 and establish a base market, then follow up with the i9. This then leaves the potential for some crazy M version if the i9 isn't already that.
With that said, I heard that Honda would do something similar to the above - launch a base NSX with about 650hp first, then follow that up with a convertible, Type R, or something. It's all speculation though so it's kinda meaningless right now.
10-09-2014, 01:22 PM
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-ing Acura...?
10-09-2014, 08:23 PM
#4439
2G TLX-S
No, we shouldn't be happy with this type of thinking. But, considering Honda has never ever produced a car that has led its class or segment in power, it's not a matter of us being happy with it or not. It just is. That's why I've moved on from Hondacura years and years ago.
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The 260hp 2G TL-S had once been the leader of it's class in horsepower.
In addition, Honda had also never been the leader of it's class in total number of "auto transmission forward gear ratios" until now, with the debut of the 8-speed/9-speed auto boxes.
So if Honda can do it today with it's auto boxes, I don't see why Honda can't repeat the feat with it's twin-turbo-V6 engine(s).
10-10-2014, 01:32 AM
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A major problem for the NSX is going to be that the BMW i8 just beat them to the punch. They offer the looks, some decent performance, and hybrid tech for about the same as a base R8. Oh and they are following it up with a higher performance i9 which will probably hit the market around the same time as the NSX.
All of the specs and details of the car are probably fairly set for now -the delay now is buidling out the manufacturing plant, lining up the suppliers and getting things ready for the production line. And like the original NSX it's unlikely we'll see many variations.