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Moog-Type-S 11-23-2009 12:29 PM

Grille Kit for Acura vehicles is like a band-aid for cancer.

fsttyms1 11-23-2009 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S (Post 11513654)
Grille Kit for Acura vehicles is like a band-aid for cancer.

Even these are better looking
http://img4.realsimple.com/images/09...ge-bob_300.jpg

CL6 11-23-2009 03:01 PM

Now I am however I sold Acuras for four years and still know people there and my presence on this site illustates my continued interest in the brand...


Originally Posted by crazyasiantl (Post 11513408)
not for acura though..mbz


paz840 11-23-2009 04:23 PM

The grill needs a complete redesign not a cover-up or "fix kit" :2cents:

JS + XES 11-23-2009 04:30 PM

its not just the grille. it needs to be re-designed.

afici0nad0 11-23-2009 07:48 PM

dealerships had already been providing the option of color matching the chrome grill for the TSX/TL. i was surprised to see a black TL on display in a Seattle mall, when the TL first came out, with the black beak.

definitely looked better than the chrome, but, i agree, total redesign is the solution.

Edward'TLS 11-24-2009 01:47 AM

I believe this factory "grille kit" rumor will go on for another year and a half. By then the mid-model cycle change will officially kick in, and the ugly TL front grille will really get redesigned.

Edward'TLS 11-24-2009 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by CL6 (Post 11511569)
One could try and say this was the case for larger wheels, a spoiler, etc.

This is different. The grille kit, if exists, is to rescue the TL sales. It is to try to bring back all those potential buyers who are scared away by the hideous TL front grille.

Not quite the same as selling larger wheels or other accessories to complement the car. The customer must be willing to buy the car first.

Edward'TLS 11-24-2009 02:14 AM

With the high power V8 and V10 programs now dead, so goes the possibility of the flag-ship sport car. As a result, this is all Takanobu Ito can say in his about-face speech.

Honda never learn. Even the light-weight aluminium NSX had consistently been criticized for the lack of torque and power amongst it's class of sport cars. High power IS always the heart and soul for top-class sport cars.

phee 11-24-2009 09:00 AM

i dont think it looks bad.

pic attached

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/239...ura_tl_new.jpg

phee 11-24-2009 09:00 AM

sorry its a clickable thumb. im at work. rehost for the win

Rugel 11-24-2009 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by phee (Post 11516073)
i dont think it looks bad.

Pic attached

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/239...ura_tl_new.jpg

lmao

agranado 11-24-2009 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by phee (Post 11516073)
i dont think it looks bad.

pic attached

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/239...ura_tl_new.jpg

already looks ass-loads nicer.

neuronbob 11-24-2009 06:56 PM

I think I said somewhere on the 4G TL board a year ago that Acura should come out with an optional grille kit. Glad to see they are fixing the Power Phlegm grille (if indeed true).

Another option is to contract with RonJon for his grilles.

MIKEYDRED 11-24-2009 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Colin (Post 11511246)
I agree. You'd need a body color insert to accomplish that and I can already see the color match complaints. Hopefully they won't try that now. IMO, a 'black chrome' color would help lessen the impact on a darker color car. Maybe at MMC they can work on re-doing the bodywork to make the piece over the headlight continue in one piece (from fender to fender) and then get the grill below the cut line like in the TSX.

:thumbsup:I was thinking the same thing. Although I do not have a problem with the grill as it looks great on a sunny day,they did take it to far by crawling on the hood. Like stated above only a redo of some of the body work will allow for a new redesigned grill that lines up with the headlights, the plenum would also look better if somehow they were able to get the plastic honeycomb pattern to line up with the bottom return of the plenum (i.e. move it out more, would not look like a beak)

GreenMonster 11-24-2009 09:12 PM

:rofl: Doesn't Acura use focus groups before they release shit ??

Are monkeys running the design and marketing departments ??

It's nice to see them coming up with a remedy, but the cars should have never been released looking that that in the first place :2cents:

Edward'TLS 11-24-2009 11:16 PM

^^^^^ It could be one of the many mistakes which finally led to the Honda CEO to change hands.

Colin 11-24-2009 11:40 PM

^^ They do, and from everything I've heard it tested really well. I can only wonder if they asked the attendees the wrong question. ie. "Is it distinctive?" They answer "um yes" Bam, it's tested well.....

JediMindTricks 11-25-2009 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by afici0nad0 (Post 11514828)
dealerships had already been providing the option of color matching the chrome grill for the TSX/TL. i was surprised to see a black TL on display in a Seattle mall, when the TL first came out, with the black beak.

definitely looked better than the chrome, but, i agree, total redesign is the solution.

yup. saw one here too. looked much sharper. granted, the one i saw also had the 19" tech wheels, which are a HUGE improvement over the stock.


Originally Posted by GreenMonster (Post 11518377)
:rofl: Doesn't Acura use focus groups before they release shit ??

Are monkeys running the design and marketing departments ??

It's nice to see them coming up with a remedy, but the cars should have never been released looking that that in the first place :2cents:

honda had that facebook account...

LuvMyTSX 11-25-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Colin (Post 11518760)
^^ They do, and from everything I've heard it tested really well. I can only wonder if they asked the attendees the wrong question. ie. "Is it distinctive?" They answer "um yes" Bam, it's tested well.....

:nod: Yup, totally depends on the questions they asked.

elessar 11-25-2009 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Colin (Post 11518760)
^^ They do, and from everything I've heard it tested really well. I can only wonder if they asked the attendees the wrong question. ie. "Is it distinctive?" They answer "um yes" Bam, it's tested well.....

:rofl: It's funny because I just had this conversation with my buddy Monday night. His RL (07 or 08) was in the shop and he had a new TL loaner, which he let me drive (I have an 04 TL). I agreed that it drove really well and was top notch inside but looked like ass outside. He claimed not to mind the grille too much, but he's not a fan of the back. This all led me to ask, for the umpteenth time, WTF Acura was thinking, considering this was about the most positive comment I'd heard so far on the TL's looks.

How the HELL do you get past the drawing board with something that the vast majority of people find downright fugly, and the minority are "just ok" with?? Especially when the previous generation looked so nice (obviously biased here, but still).

Agree with those who say that a grille kit is a start, and a hopeful sign for a mid-model change, but the back (of the TL) needs a complete re-work as well.

justinjsw 11-25-2009 04:12 PM

Gave up on Acura years ago...

CL6 11-25-2009 04:39 PM

They translated the question from English to Japanese then once they got the OK they translated it back to English. By that time I'm sure it was something like:

"Do you like the nose of the large heron" or something like that.



Originally Posted by Colin (Post 11518760)
^^ They do, and from everything I've heard it tested really well. I can only wonder if they asked the attendees the wrong question. ie. "Is it distinctive?" They answer "um yes" Bam, it's tested well.....


afici0nad0 11-25-2009 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by JediMindTricks (Post 11518862)
yup. saw one here too. looked much sharper. granted, the one i saw also had the 19" tech wheels, which are a HUGE improvement over the stock.

yup, the one i saw also had the 19's. the display car was pretty much loaded to the nine.

afici0nad0 11-25-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by CL6 (Post 11520928)
"Do you like the nose of the large heron" or something like that.

:rofl:

"...and when we say. 'Heron,' we really mean the King Vulture."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-zOrAL1V5J.../s400/king.jpg

iforyou 11-25-2009 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Edward'TLS (Post 11515720)
With the high power V8 and V10 programs now dead, so goes the possibility of the flag-ship sport car. As a result, this is all Takanobu Ito can say in his about-face speech.

Honda never learn. Even the light-weight aluminium NSX had consistently been criticized for the lack of torque and power amongst it's class of sport cars. High power IS always the heart and soul for top-class sport cars.

That's why it's always interesting to see the NSX-R keeping up/beating those 400-500hp sports cars on a track driven actual professional race car drivers again and again - something that other Japanese cars can't do, other than the GTR.

CL6 11-26-2009 03:22 AM

I'm sure that serves some sort of design function. Unless you need to pop open your beer bottle I'm not sure what the Acura beak does.



Originally Posted by afici0nad0 (Post 11521253)
:rofl:

"...and when we say. 'Heron,' we really mean the King Vulture."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-zOrAL1V5J.../s400/king.jpg


dom 11-26-2009 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by justinjsw (Post 11520878)
Gave up on Acura years ago...

:what: Where the hell you've been?

justinjsw 11-26-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by dom (Post 11522172)
:what: Where the hell you've been?

How are you doing Dom? Happy Thanksgiving!

I have been with BMW all this years.

majin ssj eric 11-26-2009 10:13 AM

^^^That makes you like most everybody else here! Lol.

dom 11-26-2009 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by justinjsw (Post 11522256)
How are you doing Dom? Happy Thanksgiving!

I have been with BMW all this years.

Welcome back and Happy Thanksgiving to you too. I hope all is well.

Now that you're converted away from Acura there still may be hope for Colin yet. :D

Edward'TLS 11-26-2009 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by iforyou (Post 11521411)
That's why it's always interesting to see the NSX-R keeping up/beating those 400-500hp sports cars on a track driven actual professional race car drivers again and again - something that other Japanese cars can't do, other than the GTR.

Professional drivers on the race tracks - yes.

Civilian drivers on the populated highways - no. It's more practical to have tons of hp at low rpm under your feet, rather than having to drive near the red-line all day long to get any decent power in order to challenge the 400hp sport cars on the other lanes.

Edward'TLS 11-26-2009 04:29 PM

^^^^^ I always have this tendency to stand in front of the current gen. TL grille and solute it with awe. Maybe this is what the Acura beak makes people do.

Sly Raskal 11-26-2009 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX (Post 11519644)
:nod: Yup, totally depends on the questions they asked.

And who they asked.

I've always wondered why they don't pool their actual customer base to see what they think. I have plenty of feedback to give for my first integra, cl and now my 2nd integra and a4 avant, but no one to provide that feedback to.

CL6 11-26-2009 08:47 PM

Are your pants on or off when you do this?


Originally Posted by Edward'TLS (Post 11523046)
^^^^^ I always have this tendency to stand in front of the current gen. TL grille and solute it with awe. Maybe this is what the Acura beak makes people do.


YeuEmMaiMai 12-01-2009 03:48 AM

problem with acura is that they have honda with the same options for less money. add to that craptastic styling (even the new ZDX has that fucked up grill) and that is what killed them.....

when the CL-S came out it was significanlty better than the accord coupe....by 2003, the accord was at the same level........

CL6 12-01-2009 10:34 AM

I went to the auto show last night and I saw the new MDX... here is a beak for ya!
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs021...._4768415_n.jpg

hdcolumbus 12-01-2009 02:11 PM

Meh. Had the front and back color-matched before I took delivery. Never looked back.

Hapa DC5 12-01-2009 02:33 PM

Acura has a strategy?

Silver_Surfer 12-04-2009 11:04 AM

The grill on the 2010 MDX looks decent, just like the TSX. Good flow. Not gigantic like the TL. Of course I prefer the original shield on the MDX. It's nice!

http://www.stoth.com/wp-content/plug...280-01_opt.jpg


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