mrdeeno

They're probably sitting around patting each other's backs about how well Acura's bottom line is, not worrying about what the numbers are before the bottom line.

husker1

Steering the ship? I think they stopped that back in the 90s when they opted for the alphanumeric naming of their cars and wanted to just blend in with the other luxury cars on the market.

MaximaPower

acura/honda is selling well as a whole...mayb that's why they're aren't looking to change....kinda like don't fix it if it ain't broke

mrdeeno

There was nothing broken about my old 80386 PC with VGA monitor, 1MB of memory, 60mb hdd, and running DOS 3.0 either. It played Space Quest just fine!

aesir11

Ha! Best quote of the thread!

heyitsme

Honda sounds completely lost.

srika

oh god... for the love of all things holy. hey i heard toyota has been working on a MK5 supra.

BraveDemon

Ten cylinders in front engine RWD coupes --> good idea.

Ten cylinders in front engine FWD coupes --> dumb idea.

Shouldn't Acura first consider RWD platforms and then worry about the number of cylinders?

I agree with the OP. Honda seems lost.

dilidolo

When did Honda say they would build V 10 FWD cars?

TLyoung'un

I won't say no to v10 power in an affordable package
/shrugs

bigblackjohnson

Ten cylinders FWD cars, best idea ever!

swift22

HPD already has a V10 in racing and the next NSX rumored to have V10 FE.........


so this is old news.

NEXT.

BraveDemon

Here's a better question:

When did Honda say they will build a fully RWD platform?

You obviously didn't pick up the sarcasm in my post. The fact is Honda makes these statements about making leaps and bounds but seriously, going from a V6 to a V10? And then claiming that they can put it in their forward engine line up?

There has been no production V8/V10 by Honda, there is currently no production RWD platform by Honda.

My statement was more to point out that Honda's statement of jumping to V10's is really unrealistic looking at how they've been operating for years.

Oh well... if anything this statement fits in perfectly with the Acura Exec stating that Acura is targeting Maybach and Bentley.

BTW - if you're going to argue putting a V10 in Honda's current (up and coming) AWD platform.... yuck. Honda's AWD platform is clearly FWD biased.. and with all that weight in the front from the V10, it'll pretty much handle like a FWD car. They'll need to revamp the AWD platform and place the engine behind the front axle to make it actually work and to distribute the weight of the V10 throughout the entire vehicle.

stangg172004

this is what honda should do...

Rwd through out the applicable lineup --> V8 RWD w/ an AWD option through out the applicable lineup --> do that for a good decade or so --> then do a V-10, reserved for the larger vehicles/sports cars/specialty cars...

amv12

First they want to skip BMW/MB and go straight to rival Bently/Maybach. Now they want to skip the V8 and go to a V10!. Just give me a v6 in a tsx and I'm a happy camper.

Yumcha

srika

ha

Yumcha

So, honestly...the guy can say anything he wants. He could say he's building the next Acura Aston Martin DB-NSX-TL-Type-H and I would still not give a fawking fawked fawk until I see it finally in production.


Acura/Honda are absolutely the masters of the vapor-car.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

2 things to keep in mind though,

1.) Acura/Honda still makes some of the best handling FWD cars, beating their rivals even on race tracks by quite a bit, ie TL-S, and new Civic Type R.

2.) SH-AWD might be FWD biased, but BMW and Audi are copying this system, while Mitsubishi stated they will come up with a better system than the SH-AWD (implying its super AYC+ACD combo isn't on par with SH-AWD?)

Nonetheless....V10 FWD doesn't sound right at all...

mltk53

mrdeeno

So when they say "The Power of Dreams", they throw reality out the window?

Considering how secretive they are about their REAL plans, these comments may be more of a diversion to distract fans from what's really happening over there at Acura: NOTHING EXCITING.

GreenMonster

Baby steps Acura... baby steps...

You need to learn to walk before you run... but I guess that the V10 development work they've done in racing should help with v10's made for the street...

F23A4

John Watts smokem peace pipe.

Crazy Bimmer

At the rate Honda is going they might as well go straight to a V10.

By the time they release it everyone else will already have V10 in their compact sedans anyways.

SpicyMikey

Watt's is obviously just talking pie-in-the-sky stuff. If you read his comments again you'll see he only said they will "test the waters" with a V10 in the next NSX. That's reasonable for a halo car and old news. He then made the vague comment that if that goes well they'd consider adding it in other Acura's. What does that mean? Really nothing.

It was the Automotive News author who extrapolated his comment to mean they are considering a v10 in a sedan. Watt's never really said that in a serious manner. It's hype generated by Automotive News for their own gains.

There is no news here guys

GreenMonster

FIXED

Black Tire

Honda can do that only on the pS3 and Xbox 360.

SiGGy

Where is the "when pigs fly" emoticon?

:pigs:

fsttyms1

At the rate honda revamps lineups it will be another 15+ years before we see any thing new

bigman

My goodness. If i owned Acura i'd:
1-Leave the TSX FWD and offer SH-AWD as an option. This keeps the option for people looking for a front driver Acura.
2-Make the TL a Rear or SH-AWD only car
3-Drop the Accord platform for the RL and make it bigger with an 8-10 cyl engine, but leave the V6 as an option
4-Bring back a coupe based off the TL, make the styling closer to that of the TL but with some more edge to it. Honda does this with the accord, and had they done it with the last gen CL, it would have sold better. With the return of a coupe with rwd or awd, acura has the chance to at least make a car that is as amazing to drive as an E46 M3 at an affordable price.
5-Since every car in the lineup will have AWD as an option or standard equipment, give us more engine choices. Give us the option of the Standard 2.4 in the TSX or the Turbo 2.4 from the RDX as a TSX Type S. Give the TL AWD and over 300 horses to compete with the likes of the 335 and G35 in terms of horsepower numbers. Lets face it, in america horsepower sells cars. Honda needs to stop being so green with the Acura lineup and give us a high revving 6 cyl performance motor. And i hope they dont bring a V10 out in the RL only to risk power and claim they have the most eco friendly 10 cyl ever.
And does anyone think i am crazy when i wish that Acura would drop the RL, give it's technology to the TL, call the TL the Legend and bring back the Legend Coupe/sedan with rwd/awd. Then they can bring the TSX up a notch and offer more power and options. What do i know, i just went on rambling, but it's because i want to get back into an Acura, but i want something much more from them.

runnerX

what??? Here I see two problems:

1. V10 sports IS going to be expensive.
2. Would people buy $100k+ Acura branded car?

remember sub $100k NSX didn't sell well at all, what make them think they can move $100K+? unless they mark it at around $80k, but again that probably won't sell either. below $80k, probably not possible cuz it is a freaking V10.

Moog-Type-S

afici0nad0

+1

focus on rwd first, then worry about the number of cylinders.

SpicyMikey

All intelligent ideas. Hope Acura is listening. Only exception is your idea of dropping the RL. If anything I think they need to expand their lineup, not shrink it. Having said that, I agree the TL and RL overlap a bit in some areas. They can solve that by growing the RL another few inches and giving it a v8. That would also probably help the dismal sales.

Regarding the RWD/AWD debate that perpetually rages on everywhere; I don't get as excited about this issue. I DO NOT want FWD. Handling and torque steer are too annoying. But, I'm OK with the AWD system they have. Adds some pounds, won't let you have as much fun drifting around (if that's your thing), but, it's got many pluses which outweigh it's negatives. Then again, maybe that's my age starting to talk. You start thinking different when you get passed 40, said to say.

SpicyMikey

I found that original article from Left Lane News that the OP was quoting from.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-co...uces-v10s.html

Sure does sound like this Watts guy was serious. But, I can't imagine the powers that be are considering skipping a sensible v8 solution for a 10. This guy must have just been day-dreaming out load.

F23A4

Despite its lack of a V8 option, the RL should NOT be discontinued. The RL is a great car in need of a competetive edge (over its segment contemporaries) just as Acura is a solid brand in need of competetive edge over its brand contemporaries.

It would be nice to see a V8-SHAWD RL go head-to-head against the M45X, E550 4MATIC and 535xi. (I am sort of surprised that Honda had not attempted to introduce IMA to the RL's pre-existing J35; it could have been a respectable stopgap measure until the introduction of a V8 in the next gen RL. )

fsttyms1

acura needs to bring back the legend the size of the 7 series with a V8 - V10 RWD standard AWD optional

Nov!ce

I'll take an AWD CL w/ 290hp. That can compete with the G37, IS350 and non-turbo 3 series.

Moog-Type-S

By the time you get your 290bhp AWD CL from Acura, it will be 2011 and the competition will be at 350bhp:winnk:

phile

There's a good chance we'll have flying cars before an Acura V8 on any of its models.