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Old 04-26-2016, 09:37 AM
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Yay!! Only one screen on the dash!! Honda is [somewhat] listening!!!
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
that exterior color makes it look hideous
Maybe it's just the lightning...?

Doubt it
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Originally Posted by MSZ
is it me or the actual screen is not centered? passenger focused?
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I'm guessing there are buttons on the left?
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Based on what honda has right now, probably. But still looks weird when it is not centered.

there seems to be plenty of space for buttons even if they centered the screen.
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why are we excited about this car if its only a chinese car at the moment??

is this what we would call a vape p-car?
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Originally Posted by justnspace
why are we excited about this car if its only a chinese car at the moment??

is this what we would call a vape p-car?
Beats me. mrGold is still hell bent on this thing appearing in NA, regardless of what you and I tell him
Old 04-26-2016, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Beats me. mrGold is still hell bent on this thing appearing in NA, regardless of what you and I tell him
I mean at the off chance that it does come state-side, it wont be this year, as its intended for the Chinese Market.

which means; everything that we talked about in this thread is null.

they could change emissions, drivetrain and lighting before it all comes to the US.

plus, its not even attractive. I really enjoy other manufactures small CUV's better than this ugly thing!

I'm in love with the CX-3 and the debut of the CX-4 makes me like that as well.
hyundai and kia's offerings look soo much better than this thing
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It is not hard to bring it to the US marketing.

Do what Acura/Honda does best. Just glorify the outside and the inside of HRV and call it CDX with the same 4 banger
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Agreed 1000%.

Also, you're right at least about the engine. I doubt NA would get the same engine as China. NA generally gets bigger engines, as compared to the rest of the world. I don't think the 8DCT is out of question though. Either way...
Old 04-26-2016, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
It is not hard to bring it to the US marketing.

Do what Acura/Honda does best. Just glorify the outside and the inside of HRV and call it CDX with the same 4 banger
And there in lies the problem. Why create the exact same vehicle, only with a different badge on it? Yes, they're doing it with every Acura now, but c'mon, how about SOME brand separation. I really don't get Acura at all..
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
It is not hard to bring it to the US marketing.

Do what Acura/Honda does best. Just glorify the outside and the inside of HRV and call it CDX with the same 4 banger
because 2g tsx is best. supeior ground clearance
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Funny story- i stopped by a new Hyundai dealership to pick up some parts yesterday. Decided to look around the show room. Sales guy sees me eyeing out the latest Genesis sedan and asks me what I drive.

"A TL"

"Oh, so you're really into the luxury market then, aren't you?"

"No, not really. Just curious about the Genesis sedan"

"But your Acura is a luxury vehicle"

"It is?"

"I see you're like many, who see Acura as just Honda plus"

"Yup"

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
And there in lies the problem. Why create the exact same vehicle, only with a different badge on it? Yes, they're doing it with every Acura now, but c'mon, how about SOME brand separation. I really don't get Acura at all..
you sure you want the answer to that question? ask SSFTSX, he could give you a very convincing answer on why Acura should stay mediocre.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Originally Posted by MSZ
is it me or the actual screen is under the vents because you never put Navigation screen under the vents.
Old 04-26-2016, 10:24 PM
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This Chinese low cost version. The Honda new SUV the vents are not under so are Vezel Japan.


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Ah, yes, the vent location.....
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
This Chinese low cost version. The Honda new SUV the vents are not under so are Vezel Japan.

you're the low cost version!
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i also LOL at all the RDX fan boys that think this is coming to NA...

well guess what, Honda Hates you!
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
This Chinese low cost version. The Honda new SUV the vents are not under so are Vezel Japan.
Acura is doing it wrong then. Acura CDX price will start around 150,000 yuan, but is low cost. Honda Vezel which is not low cost starts around 129,000 yaun.

Acura isn't going to be Honda+ in China like in U.S. Acura is going to be Honda-
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
This Chinese low cost version. The Honda new SUV the vents are not under so are Vezel Japan.
Um... what?
Old 04-27-2016, 09:46 AM
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oh wait, I get it!!!

Yes, the vent placement changes the vehicle from "low cost" to "absolute luxury" because, you know... changing the duct work results in a 1345897% increase in price you're such a tool SSFTSX... keep it up, homie. You never seize to amaze us
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Aside from the horrible color, I thought the exterior is quite attractive.

The interior looks nice for a car in this class too, though hard to see the details with the pictures that are available.

I'd think this would make sense for North America.
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it would if it is under another brand, Who is going to buy it at 30-35k?
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
oh wait, I get it!!!

Yes, the vent placement changes the vehicle from "low cost" to "absolute luxury"
That's why I cannot and will not buy the NSX. That car is just too "low cost"

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I dunno...though the Q3 starts at $34k, and goes up to $42k.

The GLA250 starts at $32.5k and go up to $53k, excluding the GLA45 AMG.

The X1 starts at $35k and goes up to $50k.

I'd imagine if Acura can make it start at $29k, then may be there's a market? I don't know. It also depends on what's being offered too.
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Well unless you currently live in china, nothing is being offered, anywhere [else]. So who cares?
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I dunno...though the Q3 starts at $34k, and goes up to $42k.

The GLA250 starts at $32.5k and go up to $53k, excluding the GLA45 AMG.

The X1 starts at $35k and goes up to $50k.

I'd imagine if Acura can make it start at $29k, then may be there's a market? I don't know. It also depends on what's being offered too.
I know who it will be competing against.
But who will buy it?

Unless they have something "new" otherwise with the same 8 dct / 201 hp combo, they could use ILX as a forecast on how many they can sell.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Well unless you currently live in china, nothing is being offered, anywhere [else]. So who cares?
lol, I was saying, something like the CDX makes sense for North America. You know, as in if Acura offer this car here in North America, may be there's a market. I'd think this is okay for this thread? This is the CDX thread right?
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Well unless you currently live in china, nothing is being offered, anywhere [else]. So who cares?
since we do not get the actual product, the best we can do is the imaginary comparison.

we have nothing else left to talk about anymore. NSX is already yesterday's news before it even arrives.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I know who it will be competing against.
But who will buy it?

Unless they have something "new" otherwise with the same 8 dct / 201 hp combo, they could use ILX as a forecast on how many they can sell.
I'm thinking something like 2.0T with the 8DCT.

As for using the ILX as a forecast, I totally understand where you are coming from. Then again, I believe Acura does really well for SUVs/CUVs, it's just that their sedans don't do well.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I know who it will be competing against.
But who will buy it?

Unless they have something "new" otherwise with the same 8 dct / 201 hp combo, they could use ILX as a forecast on how many they can sell.
Not really. Acura buyers deeply desire the SUV offerings. Not so much any of the sedans. It's safe to say the CDX would easily sell double what the ILX is selling.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
since we do not get the actual product, the best we can do is the imaginary comparison.

we have nothing else left to talk about anymore. NSX is already yesterday's news before it even arrives.
haha exactly, might as well close the thread lol.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Not really. Acura buyers deeply desire the SUV offerings. Not so much any of the sedans. It's safe to say the CDX would easily sell double what the ILX is selling.
ah haha just saw this...yaa...Acura SUVs are selling fine...
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Not really. Acura buyers deeply desire the SUV offerings. Not so much any of the sedans. It's safe to say the CDX would easily sell double what the ILX is selling.
yah that is a fact.

But one of the main reasons that Acura could sell their SUVs is the price compare to others like X5, Q7 or X3 and you know the typical group of cars. The difference is price is enough to justify the purchase over the Germans or Lexus.

But if CDX does make it to the NA marketing somehow and ILX already starts at $28k and SUV/CUVs typically cost 2-3k more than sedan, then at a base $30k, the price difference is not as significant compare to the others in that segment.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I'm thinking something like 2.0T with the 8DCT.

As for using the ILX as a forecast, I totally understand where you are coming from. Then again, I believe Acura does really well for SUVs/CUVs, it's just that their sedans don't do well.
well unless TLX, ILX or whatever LX gets the 2.0t first, i would be very shocked if the CDX gets it first.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
This Chinese low cost version. The Honda new SUV the vents are not under so are Vezel Japan.


Originally Posted by AZuser
That's why I cannot and will not buy the NSX. That car is just too "low cost"


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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
yah that is a fact.

But one of the main reasons that Acura could sell their SUVs is the price compare to others like X5, Q7 or X3 and you know the typical group of cars. The difference is price is enough to justify the purchase over the Germans or Lexus.

But if CDX does make it to the NA marketing somehow and ILX already starts at $28k and SUV/CUVs typically cost 2-3k more than sedan, then at a base $30k, the price difference is not as significant compare to the others in that segment.
X3 28i AWD: $41k
Q5 2.0T AWD: $41k
RDX AWD: $37k
11% Difference

X5 35i AWD: $57k
Q7 3.0T AWD: $55k
MDX AWD: $45k
22% - 26% difference

X1 28i AWD: $35k
Q3 2.0T AWD: $36k
CDX AWD: $31k
12% - 16% difference

This doesn't look that bad to me. The price difference goes up a lot once you add more options.

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
well unless TLX, ILX or whatever LX gets the 2.0t first, i would be very shocked if the CDX gets it first.
Nowadays, it seems like Honda in general doesn't care much about which car gets what first. For instance, the Civic got the new Vtec turbo engine before the Accord and the ILX. I'm just guessing here since in general, NA models are more powerful than other countries. For instance, in China, the RDX has a 3.0L V6, the TLX only has the 2.4L model, the RLX doesn't have hybrid version, and the ILX still uses the 2.0L engine. Also, the other competitors here, namely GLA250, X1, Q3, and QX30 are all using 2.0T.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
X3 28i AWD: $41k
Q5 2.0T AWD: $41k
RDX AWD: $37k
11% Difference

X5 35i AWD: $57k
Q7 3.0T AWD: $55k
MDX AWD: $45k
22% - 26% difference

X1 28i AWD: $35k
Q3 2.0T AWD: $36k
CDX AWD: $31k
12% - 16% difference

This doesn't look that bad to me. The price difference goes up a lot once you add more options.



Nowadays, it seems like Honda in general doesn't care much about which car gets what first. For instance, the Civic got the new Vtec turbo engine before the Accord and the ILX. I'm just guessing here since in general, NA models are more powerful than other countries. For instance, in China, the RDX has a 3.0L V6, the TLX only has the 2.4L model, the RLX doesn't have hybrid version, and the ILX still uses the 2.0L engine. Also, the other competitors here, namely GLA250, X1, Q3, and QX30 are all using 2.0T.
you are comparing apple to apple but i think most of the those SUVs were sold from their base trim (RWD or FWD) So in reality is basically whatever cheapest Acura has vs the cheapest from others.
and i really think the imaginary CDX would start 31k with FWD vs $33k FWD Q3 and etc... and i have never heard anyone said "i bought this car 15% cheaper"... more like "$2000 more or $2000 less"

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Yea, I made them all AWD since there's no RWD/FWD for the Q7 or Q5. That would make the price gap bigger since most likely, the CDX will have a FWD version.

It comes down to how they price this imaginary NA CDX. I agree that if they do set a starting price of $31k, then it probably won't do too well, since the Q3 starts at $34k. Also, the bigger RDX starts at $35k, which again, means the CDX won't be that much cheaper.

I'd think the smart thing to do is to price the CDX just under $30k - $29,900 or something. Psychologically, that's under $30k, and may help with sales. It would leave a $4k gap from the next competitor, the Q3, and it will also be $5k cheaper than the RDX.


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