350Z vs. M3 SMGII vs. Z06 vs. 911 Targa
02-05-2003, 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by bkknight369
...if the vette had smg...Chevy 4EVA!!!!
...if the vette had smg...Chevy 4EVA!!!!
02-05-2003, 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Haus
I wonder how an NSX would stack up? I guess not real good for a new one being that they are about 75K, but I bet a late model one around 50K would score pretty well.
I wonder how an NSX would stack up? I guess not real good for a new one being that they are about 75K, but I bet a late model one around 50K would score pretty well.
02-05-2003, 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
u can't compare the e55 vs. corvette shit the e55 is like over 70g's loaded. yeah i have to agree, the SRT-4 would have to be the next best dollar for performance.
also the vette is light as shit, one reason why it brakes so well, also the z06 brakes kick ass.
one reason why the Z might have mid 14's 1/4 mile is its not that strong up top , they need vtec
u can't compare the e55 vs. corvette shit the e55 is like over 70g's loaded. yeah i have to agree, the SRT-4 would have to be the next best dollar for performance.
also the vette is light as shit, one reason why it brakes so well, also the z06 brakes kick ass.
one reason why the Z might have mid 14's 1/4 mile is its not that strong up top , they need vtec
02-05-2003, 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Bluto
Did they publish the source of the cars? Mileage? A ragged out and abused car won't give the best numbers.
Do they 'track prep' cars for the 1/4? Or run what they got at the time?
Did they publish the source of the cars? Mileage? A ragged out and abused car won't give the best numbers.
Do they 'track prep' cars for the 1/4? Or run what they got at the time?
02-05-2003, 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
how bout the new e55, that would be a close race vs a z06, and it would prolly beat the 385hp z06
how bout the new e55, that would be a close race vs a z06, and it would prolly beat the 385hp z06
02-05-2003, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rod
I wish! I can't wait to see the next generation Corvettes. There's much talk about interior improvements, both quality- and feature-wise. An SMG style tranny would be perfect for the type of people that normally buy the car since most sales are of automatics, obviously not for the Z06 though.
I wish! I can't wait to see the next generation Corvettes. There's much talk about interior improvements, both quality- and feature-wise. An SMG style tranny would be perfect for the type of people that normally buy the car since most sales are of automatics, obviously not for the Z06 though.
02-05-2003, 07:50 PM
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350Z doing 14.4 in the 1/4 :thumbsdn:...and even the track model
I can beat that....Zeroday get ready to get owned at E-town. Shit I may not even put my headers in and take you with my SSRs Comps. only...this is gonna be easier than I thought
350Z doing 14.4 in the 1/4 :thumbsdn:...and even the track model
I can beat that....Zeroday get ready to get owned at E-town. Shit I may not even put my headers in and take you with my SSRs Comps. only...this is gonna be easier than I thought
it'll make a win that much more enjoyable (you Zapata AND Nitrotiger if he wants some haha) ! :P BTW someone posted a manual 330ci getting OWNED by a stock 350Z not so long ago..you betta axe somebody!! You guys better talk to allmotor about gettin FI because I have money put aside for the Nismo turbo when it comes out...
02-05-2003, 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
yeah yeah Lou keep talkin the smack. it'll make a win that much more enjoyable (you Zapata AND Nitrotiger if he wants some haha) ! :P BTW someone posted a manual 330ci getting OWNED by a stock 350Z not so long ago..you betta axe somebody!!
You guys better talk to allmotor about gettin FI because I have money put aside for the Nismo turbo when it comes out...
yeah yeah Lou keep talkin the smack.
it'll make a win that much more enjoyable (you Zapata AND Nitrotiger if he wants some haha) ! :P BTW someone posted a manual 330ci getting OWNED by a stock 350Z not so long ago..you betta axe somebody!! You guys better talk to allmotor about gettin FI because I have money put aside for the Nismo turbo when it comes out...
that's right a 14.4 with a professional behind the wheel with you....let's just say I just have to worry about getting under 15 sec.: 
02-05-2003, 08:43 PM
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that's right a 14.4 with a professional behind the wheel with you....let's just say I just have to worry about getting under 15 sec.:
that's right a 14.4 with a professional behind the wheel with you....let's just say I just have to worry about getting under 15 sec.:
. Just verified the numbers he posted here aren't right. R&T posted a 1/4 of 14.1 in their latest issue for the Z...Some people reported 13.8 was achieved on my350z.com. Prepare for ownage!
02-05-2003, 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by eclipse23
Dunno, the SMG M3 is slightly slower than the Manual. They should have used a manual ///M3. Those times look about right (0-60 & 1/4)
Dunno, the SMG M3 is slightly slower than the Manual. They should have used a manual ///M3. Those times look about right (0-60 & 1/4)
I would expect the M3 to be a bit faster around the track, maybe 1 second.
Maybe hampered by underinflated or poor tires. The Pilot Sports have soft sidewalls and cup easily, as mentioned in the article
02-05-2003, 08:58 PM
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Re: 350Z vs. M3 SMGII vs. Z06 vs. 911 Targa
Originally posted by gavriil
OK. I have the Road and Truck mag for a few days now, so it is interesting that no one has posted about this yet. I think this is one of the nicest comparos I have read lately and it shows what a great deal the Z06 is and secondarily what a great deal the 350Z is. In this case the 350Z is a TRACK model.
I am only going to post the numbers and maybe as the thread goes on post about the mag's comments which were very interesting.
Finally, let me say that the mag says, they could not get a 911 Carera due to availability. So they went with the Targe model wich is the same thing as far as specs, expect it is 150 pounds heavier. They were concerned about rigidity, but driving the car, they felt it was as rigid as the 911 Carera. I thought that was noteworthy (150 pounds makes a difference both in acceleration as well as braking - plus weight tranfer when turning from side to side I am sure). Anyway here are the numbers:
0-60mph
350Z= 5.8
M3 SMGII= 4.9
Z06= 4.5
911 Targa= 5.0
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1/4 Mile
350Z= 14.4
M3 SMGII= 13.5
Z06= 12.8
911 Targa= 13.5
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Lap Time
350Z= 1:40:06
M3 SMGII= 1:40:09
Z06= 1:36:50
911 Targa= 1:40:79
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Skidpad
350Z= 0.88g
M3 SMGII= 0.89g
Z06= 0.98g
911 Targa=0.92g
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Slalom
350Z= 67.3 mph
M3 SMGII= 68.8 mph
Z06= 67.6 mph
911 Targa= 65.5 mph
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Braking: 80-0 mph
350Z= 213 ft
M3 SMGII= 213 ft
Z06= 204 ft
911 Targa= 208 ft
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PRICE
350Z= $34,688
M3 SMGII= $55,695
Z06= $51,450
911 Targa=$84, 975
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Now this is the most interesting part of the comparo I think. The mag claims they found a way to measure "Performance Per Dollar". In the following math expression:
(A x B x SL x SK x L) / root of P
(Dont know what the root sign is on the keyboard sorry)
A= 0-60
B= Braking
SL= Slalom
SK= Skidpad
L= Lap Time
P= Price
Hey where is the 1.4 mile?
The result from the above expression is (larger= better):
350Z= 7.8
M3 SMGII= 7.6
Z06= 10.0
911 Targa= 6.1
OK. I have the Road and Truck mag for a few days now, so it is interesting that no one has posted about this yet. I think this is one of the nicest comparos I have read lately and it shows what a great deal the Z06 is and secondarily what a great deal the 350Z is. In this case the 350Z is a TRACK model.
I am only going to post the numbers and maybe as the thread goes on post about the mag's comments which were very interesting.
Finally, let me say that the mag says, they could not get a 911 Carera due to availability. So they went with the Targe model wich is the same thing as far as specs, expect it is 150 pounds heavier. They were concerned about rigidity, but driving the car, they felt it was as rigid as the 911 Carera. I thought that was noteworthy (150 pounds makes a difference both in acceleration as well as braking - plus weight tranfer when turning from side to side I am sure). Anyway here are the numbers:
0-60mph
350Z= 5.8
M3 SMGII= 4.9
Z06= 4.5
911 Targa= 5.0
-----------------------------------------
1/4 Mile
350Z= 14.4
M3 SMGII= 13.5
Z06= 12.8
911 Targa= 13.5
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Lap Time
350Z= 1:40:06
M3 SMGII= 1:40:09
Z06= 1:36:50
911 Targa= 1:40:79
---------------------------------------------
Skidpad
350Z= 0.88g
M3 SMGII= 0.89g
Z06= 0.98g
911 Targa=0.92g
----------------------------------------------
Slalom
350Z= 67.3 mph
M3 SMGII= 68.8 mph
Z06= 67.6 mph
911 Targa= 65.5 mph
------------------------------------------------
Braking: 80-0 mph
350Z= 213 ft
M3 SMGII= 213 ft
Z06= 204 ft
911 Targa= 208 ft
---------------------------------------------
PRICE
350Z= $34,688
M3 SMGII= $55,695
Z06= $51,450
911 Targa=$84, 975
--------------------------------------------
Now this is the most interesting part of the comparo I think. The mag claims they found a way to measure "Performance Per Dollar". In the following math expression:
(A x B x SL x SK x L) / root of P
(Dont know what the root sign is on the keyboard sorry)
A= 0-60
B= Braking
SL= Slalom
SK= Skidpad
L= Lap Time
P= Price
Hey where is the 1.4 mile?
The result from the above expression is (larger= better):
350Z= 7.8
M3 SMGII= 7.6
Z06= 10.0
911 Targa= 6.1
And isn't L a function of A,B, SL,SK??
02-05-2003, 09:16 PM
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Re: Re: 350Z vs. M3 SMGII vs. Z06 vs. 911 Targa
Originally posted by agisd
I don't get it. Why root of P? We have to measure performance per dollar not performance per square root of dollar.
And isn't L a function of A,B, SL,SK??
I don't get it. Why root of P? We have to measure performance per dollar not performance per square root of dollar.
And isn't L a function of A,B, SL,SK??
02-05-2003, 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
Why don't you just concentrate on not spinning your front wheels! . Just verified the numbers he posted here aren't right. R&T posted a 1/4 of 14.1 in their latest issue for the Z...Some people reported 13.8 was achieved on my350z.com. Prepare for ownage!
Why don't you just concentrate on not spinning your front wheels!
. Just verified the numbers he posted here aren't right. R&T posted a 1/4 of 14.1 in their latest issue for the Z...Some people reported 13.8 was achieved on my350z.com. Prepare for ownage!
02-19-2003, 03:22 AM
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Corvette has come a long way since it's first production. I'd take the Z6 over any of those cars. I had a 92 and 98. Drove'em in the summer and got rid of them after 50k miles. Shit starts rattling and falling off after a while??? Maybe it was jus my car but anyway, Corvette was my first love then I bought my KICKASS TAFEETA CL TYPE-SSSSSSS!!!! I love how my neighbor drools at my car everytime I wash it!
M3 and 911 next choice...350...eehh, who cares?
M3 and 911 next choice...350...eehh, who cares?
02-19-2003, 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by torqueaholic
all the different z models vary by weight! track being the heaviest! I think the base model gets consistent 13.8's.
all the different z models vary by weight! track being the heaviest! I think the base model gets consistent 13.8's.
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