richardparker

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I am trying to put as much bass into my car as I can with the subs I have. No need for trunk space.And I could even remove rear seat back while retaining botom seat cushings. I have 4 12" subs that need aleast 1 cube sealed 1.6 ported.and 3 18's that need atleast 5 cubes ported.My thoughts were so far. 1 18 and 2 12's,in the trunk. 1 18 and 4 12's in the trunk.Or 3 18's for monster lows. 1 in the rear seat 2 in the trunk. Any other idea's,or maybe sketches ,pics...

on1wheel01

When you say 1 18" and 2 12's do you mean both at same time. If so thats a no no you don't mix sub sizes

richardparker

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ya thats what I was saying.But if I was running 12's with 18's then 12's would run for daily,and if some one was louder then then I would want the 18 to come alive also. So wich of my options you think are a beter choice?

mattastick

You might be able to squeeze 1 18 in there... If you're really lucky and are good at fiberglassing, you might be able to squeeze 2 18's in there... What are the subs? Once we know what subs you have, and what kind of amps you're working with, then we can make better suggestions...

aznboi2424

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if you really want extra space, you could take out the spare and the jack stuff. im sure the jack area could fit one and the spare could fit another sub

richardparker

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I've already had 2 18's in the trunk,no problem.The 18's I have are Fi btl's,serious subs.the 12's are pioneer champions.Not sure what I'm gonna run for amps yet till I deceide what combo of subs I'm going with.I would like to go with just 2 18's but I really cant afford to feed them properly.I'm acutally going to meet with a privite installer tommorow to take measurements and disscuss what I want.

on1wheel01

Yea 2 18" btl's are killer. But they need 7 cubes each I'd just take out the spare and fiberglass the trunk. Go with one 18" if you like deep bass, maybe 2-4 12's for faster hard hitting.

mattastick

Sell it all, and start over? If you want to do 2 18's, sell the rest of the stuff and buy amps and electrical to support them...

richardparker

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The 18's need 5 min.10max so I guess your 7 would be a reccomended #.Right now I'm running 4 12's, with 400w rms going to each sub.and thats all they can handle.there in min cube sealed boxes and sound pretty good for how much they cost.the specs say that if ported to recomended size I'll gain 3 db per sub and if ported to the max size,It will gain 5db per sub.Now, If you have your mouth slightly open it will rattle your teeth together.If proply ported I really would'nt need any more subs.just,Theres a kid at my work that thinks he has the loudest subs in the world.(2 15"l7's)in a sealed box and 2 1000w memphis amps.I'm just trying show him his set up is far from the best.He gets loud but, low volume sounds like crap.Thats why I'm trying to squeze some 18's into the mix

richardparker

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my girl got pissed when I wanted to sell my 12's.She wants them for her ride if I'm not gonna use them.

mattastick

Give (or sell, your call) the 12's to your girl. Sell the 18's, buy a single 12 or 15 (or even a couple 10's if you feel like building a whale of a box), a beastly amp, a couple batts, and go show the kid up...

eggyhustles

I HIGHLY doubt you properly fit 2 btls in the trunk of a cl.

sell the 18 and port 2 12s or 1 15

on1wheel01

Well I had a l7 15 but sold it quick(1st system in the cl)(only had her a few months and have had 3 set ups in her i'm never happy) and my old dd 9515 out hit it in every way. I am hoping my dc 12's out do the dd. It's all about quality get a good pair of 12's or 15's and out slam him.

mattastick

1 12 (or 15)... It's more fun when you tell people you only have 1 sub... Plus, that would give you more money for an amp and electrical....

eggyhustles

Agreed. more subs doesn't mean you'll be louder.

throw 3000 @ a btl and you'll be fine.

mattastick

yeah that would work too...

btw, did you see my build log now that it's in here? I did alright this weekend... Need more power and more port area for my RD...

eggyhustles

yeah it's coming along pretty nicely

richardparker

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You can highly doubt anything you want,If I can find my a old pic I WILL post.I was running 2 but my amps were only 2 hifonics brutus's and not properly getting feed.1 amp died and I hooked it up to the other amp and that sub didnt sound the same anymore.was not blown,just didnt sound right anymore.so I removed the whole set up before I lost another amp or damaged another sub.went to 4 12's and my last amp.So I just picked up another sub last week.now I have 2 that are perfect and 1 that would sound awesome to anybody else,but to me It dont sound like It did.On my cardomain page I think I said something about having 2 18's then changing to 4 12's. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3152723 check it out.

eggyhustles

even if you went with the smallest recommended size, you would need 10 cubes before port and sub displacement..

i don't even think 6 cubes would fit in a cl.

mattastick

Not without serious fiberglass work... And that's going to cost a fortune...

richardparker

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thats what I really want but 3-4 to each 18.hifonics xxv series are what I have in mind.but 1500-2000+ on amps,4-5 hundred on a alt and 400 on batts I dont got at the time.

eggyhustles

i personally think 1 installed correctly with clean power would be enough. you could easily hit 140's with one 18

richardparker

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800 is what I spent just to have to destroy it to get it out.And the guy I'm going to see tommorow said he will build another for 500-1000 depending on what I want.

mattastick

I'm going to do it with 1 12 and 1200w... And still be tuned low enough for daily use...

richardparker

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easily these subs hit low to mid 150's on the fully loaded btl with extended coils.

on1wheel01

I figured the 4 12's would be louder. I think it's the boxes that are hurting you. This is what 1 15 in my car did( I also had A blown coil that I did not know about so I wasnt doin full potential), all the dynamatting I've been doing should help with rattle.http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t=DSCI0012.flv

mattastick

I highly doubt that... I know of a dude with 1 in a Saturn (trunk car) with a XXX10000 powering it, and he's only doing 147.8... In an SUV with enough room for a big box, yeah it's doable... But I doubt it from a trunk...

richardparker

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Here's a vid of my 12's it dont look that impressive cuz with all my sound deadening theres not that much flexing anymore.And there a terribile plate rattle that I've taking care of with about 3-4 pounds of edead on the back of the plate and in between the frame.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pdyvCdx1C0

richardparker

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with that amp his box is not right if he cant get 150

mattastick

I'll let you take a look at it, and see if you can do better: http://www.freewebs.com/ohiobasssociety/dougspage.htm

on1wheel01

Dayum killer set up in the sat, some wack ass cars though lol

mattastick

Yeah, on Sunday I saw both the saturn and the truck, and both were well into the 140's...

richardparker

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set up looks perfect besides the box like I said.That box is smaller than the recomended minimum size.If he was in a bigger box he would definitly be in 150's.

mattastick

It's basically the best he can do and still be a trunk car... I'm guessing you couldn't get any more space out of your trunk than him... Also, this setup is on the way out, he's working on a couple of 18's in the back seat area... That's going to be very fun... I suspect he will blow out his rear window at sometime if he gets what we talked about earlier done (doubling up with 2 of those amps)... That should be really interesting...

TypeSinNC

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It takes A LOT of work to get a trunk car into the 150s...and a pair of properly installed 18" BTLs will take a A LOT of work to pull off in a CL. Not saying it can't be done, but if I was going to run a pair of BTLs I would build a wall

richardparker

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hell ya,now that would be a dream street killer.my trunk is 13 cubes,so I amagine I could most likely get 11-12 including the spare and both side spots.Wish I was even at that level.....then that kid at my work would shut up then,for sure.

mattastick

you might be able to get that kind of space with some serious fiberglass work (which means a huge investment in said fiberglass) and bracing... If you can do it, more power to you, and I'd love to see it... More than likely though, you're not going to be able to pull it off...

eggyhustles

2 18s in a trunk makes no sense anyway...

either wall it or get smaller subs.

richardparker

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Decided to build a single sub box myself since the guy wanted to charge me 1600 plus.These pics are before fully caulked and speaker mounted.Just want to show my first ported box.carpet job not perfect since I was building it on a concrete slab.and when I was in the house cats also was using it for a straching post.Havent tunned amp yet but It definitly give the 4 12's a run,with the same amp and sounds beter while doing so.Cant wait for a bigger amp...box is tuned to 32hz.

mattastick

Looks pretty good... I didn't carpet my 1st ported box, nor am I going to carpet my 2nd... More pics and vids...

What amp are you using?