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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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yes i have 2002 tl type s with the factory 6cd bose radio with 2 10 sony xplod subs and a 1000 watt sony xplod amp i notice that after maybe a good20-30 min drive my subs fade out off and on do you think it's the amp maybe overheating or the radio not being able to push the subs i've been told that getting an aftermarket radio is much better for subs any input would be appreciated thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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1. check the gain on your amp. If it's set too high, you might be overheating the amp...
2. If you can, upgrade to an aftermarket radio.
3. Upgrade your amp/subs... (not required, but you'd get much better sound/bass)
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Prolly overheating the amp, check and see if the protect light comes on on your amp when it cuts out, and i would upgrade your head unit and subs/amp too.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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yea I'd say overheating also. The stuff you have is garbage no offense but yea i agree with them cuz mattastick is da man
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Thanks buddy... I'm just helping with the info I know...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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what do yall recommend getting and when getting a factory radio what should i look for as far watts?? i was thinking about getting a in dash dvd and whats a good amp??
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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do you mean aftermarket radio? Most are at least 50x4. And when you ask whats a good amp well thats just to personal opinion. Whats ur budget? How hard do you want to hit. I am selling my subs box, and amp out of my car. All for in the 750 range. I am hitting at around a 142 to 144. We need more info to give you better answers
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by on1wheel01
do you mean aftermarket radio? Most are at least 50x4.
50x4 Max... Not RMS... Alpine's are usually 18x4 rms or so, and pioneers are usually up around 20-22x4. Either of those are solid units. I've used both, and loved each for its respective purpose.

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And when you ask whats a good amp well thats just to personal opinion. Whats ur budget? How hard do you want to hit. I am selling my subs box, and amp out of my car. All for in the 750 range.
That's not a bad price for your stuff... As for the OP, yeah, we need to know your budget, and what all you're looking to replace...
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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should i get all alpine or pioneer headunit subs amp also I want to get a dvd flipdown headunit whats the wattage of the factory bose headunit
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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you dont have to match your audio. I would get a pioneer or alpine hu and then go from there. Like in my case none of my stuff matches. Panasonic hu alphasonik amp dc audio subs. But am I way louder than most around here yes, does some of there stuff match yes make a diff no.... it's all about what you wanna go with and what you can find for what you want to spend. Go do some searching on car audio forums here is a good one http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/index.php check it out sign up if ya would use my name on1wheel01 as a referral

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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ah figured it out http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/f...eferrerid=1202
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Alpine V Power MRPF200 is this a good amp???
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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whats the best out of kicker zx650.4, power acoustik bamf PS4-840, MTX TC4004, power acoustik ovn4-1200 are they all good amps
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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why throw 4 channels in there go mono block
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shizzytheking
yes i have 2002 tl type s with the factory 6cd bose radio with 2 10 sony xplod subs and a 1000 watt sony xplod amp i notice that after maybe a good20-30 min drive my subs fade out off and on do you think it's the amp maybe overheating or the radio not being able to push the subs i've been told that getting an aftermarket radio is much better for subs any input would be appreciated thanks
No offense to anyone who responded but the quality of the information here is bad.

First off, the concept of the Hu not being able to “push” the sub amp is ridiculous; The Hu does not push anything. As long as the load (amp) provides reasonable input impedance (they all do) the HU is happy.

The fading out after a half hour is a thermal problem; the amp is cutting the signal level to protect itself from damage. The reasons for this are as follows,

Power and ground wires too small or poor connections to the battery or chassis.
Speaker wired wrong or impedance below the minimum that the amp is rated for safe operation.
Gain set to high or just playing it to loud
Amp installed wrong (air flow)

Granted there are always better amps and speakers but you should be able to get your system to work without cutting out.

Jeff
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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thanks jeff i got a 4gauge amp kit to install a 2chan sony xplod 1000 watt amp to 2 xplod 10's should it be a different kit 6 or 8 gauge maybe???
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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4 gauge will help I'm running 4 myself but am needing to do 0. So are you going to stay with the amp and set up you have now or get new stuff. This is confusing. I'd say go with 4. If you are looking to get a new amp I'd sell mine for $350 shipped 2475 rms watts at 1 ohm she is a beast

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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I don’t know the Sony equipment that well (at all) so I’m not sure if it is a real 1000W or a BS 1000W. I’m leaning to the BS side. In any case, the owners’ manual will have a wire gauge recommendation. If you don’t have the manual download one from Sony web site. It never hurts to run bigger wire (smaller gauge number) but it would be silly to run 0 or 4 ga for a 50watt amp. Also check and install the recommended fuse for the amp.

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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true may be over kill but if you ever upgrade you don't have to run new wire
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:23 AM
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is mono block the best will it run subs and door speakers if i get a mono block or should i get a 4 channel
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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if you're wanting to run door speakers and a sub (or 2) a 4 or 5 channel would be best. The only problem with using a 4 channel is that the rear channels bridged will only put out so much power. If you can find an amp like the Rockford Fosgate Power 25-Life, then it has a dedicated sub channel that does ~900w rms at 1 ohm, as well as 4 channels for speakers that do over 100w rms at 4 ohms...
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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yea mono is only for subs like he said. you just gotta decide what you wanna do. SOunds like you are unsure.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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not unsure just a rookie at stereo setup as you all can see i figure it out though thanks
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Or just get a mono for ur sub(s) and a 2 or 4 channel for your mids/highs if ur wanting alot of sub-bass.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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if the sub sounds fade away, i have no clue what your problem could be. if the amp drops into protect mode, i am willing to bet my left thumb that your subs are wired with too low of an ohm load. check your sub wiring before you go spend a bunch of money on new stuff.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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dumb question but i just found a good deal on 2 12's kenwood subs in box 1200watts if i get a mono amp would that push both subs in the box or just 1 12 i guess i'll convert to 2 amps 1 for the subs and a 4 channel for door speakers but i need to know if a mono amp is the way to go for 2 12's or should i get a 2 channel or could i get a 5 channel amp and power everything with the 1 amp the subs and door speakers I not looking to be noticed from 10 blocks away and my windows about to shatter from base i just want a loud clear sound with nice amount of bass from the subs
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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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A mono amp is best for subs. If you can find a good 5 channel, that is an option. I run 2 amps, but I know a guy that runs a single 5 channel. Either way can work great... You're call...

FYI, windows are a lot stronger that you think... If you break windows with 2 10" Xplods, you should be competing in SPL comps, and not on here... You're going to need ~150+ at pretty low frequencies to start breaking windows...
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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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lmao i know i won't break anything i was being sarcastic but will 1 mono amp power my 2 12's in box or do i need a 2 channel amp i will get a mono and a 4 channel amp or like said before find a powerful 5 channel that can push the subs and door speakers at a high capicity i'm gonna pick up the 12's tomorrow and sell my garbage sony equipment
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