xaznperswaesonx

What I'm looking for is a 6x9 subwoofer basically. The only one i've found so far is the 6x9 component set from MB Quarts model PVI269. Tweet can be moved to rear door. I guess I'm becoming an old fart and don't really need all that bass from a 12 inch sub. Plus, getting more trunk room is a big plus!

What do you all recomend?

mattastick

You say "powered by and amp" but then no mention of said amp in your description?? What amp, and how much power for these 6x9's?

xaznperswaesonx

mostlikely a JL 300/2 or a JL 250/1 with the two 6x9 set up to be wired parallel.

eggyhustles

dude get an 8 inch sub

Kramer1

iTrader: (4)

^^^what he said^^^^

xaznperswaesonx

duuuude .. if i wanted a box in my trunk, i wouldn't have this dilema. =) Just really don't want a sub in the trunk taking up space, rather use up the 6x9 area.

eggyhustles

that's gonna sound like crap

musicman3636

10 inch sub is the way to go

mattastick

Eggy's right. If you want good sound quality, you have to give up some space..

And musicman, if you're trying to keep the space used as small as possible, you generally want to use a smaller sub. Also, there are very capable 8's out there, you just have to know what to look for...

tmcao55

You dont need subs depending how much bass you want. 6X9's work just fine. Im using the 6x9's from the old MB Quart Reference component set and it sounds good.

There is a company called genesis that makes 6x9's that are subs, but they cost 300 a set. There are supposidly really good.

tmcao55

Also dont waste your money on an 8" sub. Get a 10" if your gonna get a sub. For an 8 inch sub to have enough output it needs an extremely large box.

mattastick

You've obviously never seen Alan Dante's CRX... He did over a 150 db legal score with a single DD 1508... You don't have room for a big box in a CRX.

OP, another option might be 2 8's IB in the rear deck. I've heard this is a solid SQ setup with decent output, depending on the sub choice.

eggyhustles

ya i highly doubt you got any kind of bass from mb quarts running free air in the rear deck.

tmcao55

No i've never seen Alan Dantes CRX. Show me the pic of how big that box is and i'll believe you. 6x9's have the same surface area or close to an 8" sub.

tmcao55

You ever read any threads by eldurino? He's not on here anymore. I followed him and used the 6x9's from the mbquart reference series and the bass is more than enough. I doubted it at first also but unless you like to bump those 6x9's are plenty of bass.

mattastick

http://audioforum.termpro.com/topic/3/6933.html

First post. That's from Alan himself.

I think that proves my point...

tmcao55

To the OP, your best bet is the 6x9's from the MB Quart reference series which are pretty hard to find. The other option is the Genesis 6x9 subs for $300 a pair. Parts express sells a tangband 6x9 "sub" that might work, but it is not a drop in solution.

mattastick

After that evidence, you still doubt 8s? What the hell is wrong with you?

tmcao55

I still didnt see a picture in that forum post. Dude there is no arguing that an 8" sub is retarded. A .9 cubic ft net PLUS the port still comes out to about 1 cubic feet. I dont imagine that 8" sub to be cheap either.

Lets keep in mind he hit 150db in a CRX hatchback. The TSX has a trunk.

Why is that little 8" sub in a .9 net ft better than a decent 10" in a sealed box? Most 10"s need only a .5 cubic ft box and a lot less power. 1500watts to an 8 inch sub is just ridiculous. Sure it might get loud but it probably sounds like ass.

The OP doesnt even want a box. Getting an 8" sub that takes .9cuft net plus the port over a 10" or even 12" is just plain bad advice.

If the OP was willing to put a box i would recommend a SI MAG 12" sub in a 1cuft box. Feed it about 400-500 watts and it'll probably end up being cheaper than that crap 8" sub that needs 1500 watts and a .9 cubic feet box.

tmcao55

Yeah i still doubt that 8" sub will sound good.

mattastick

OP, if you're willing to spend $50 per sub, pick up 2 Sundown E8's, and run them IB on your rear deck, in place of your 6x9's. Make custom baffles so that they mount right below your rear deck and feed them ~350-400w each. This will do much better than any 6x9's for the same money.

tmcao55, that 8" setup was designed to get loud as hell. If you want a good sounding 8" setup that doesn't take up a lot of space, go IB, either in 2 doors or the rear deck. If you want an 8" setup that sounds good, go T-line, tuned low. There are many ways to get 8's loud and sounding good, you just get to take you pick... Oh, and the DD 1508 goes for ~$150-200 each right about now...

88ChevyBlazer

Wow what a bunch of n00bx's in here. I love how everything thinks bigger is better.

1. 6x9"s are midbass at most.
2. 8" subs will work just as good for what the OP is wanting.

OP: Ignore the rest and listen to Mattastick, he knows what he is talking about.

If I were you I would modify the rear deck to hold some E8"s or Sound Splinter 8"s.

Or place a baffle behind the back of your rear seat and put them there.

When running IB you wont get as much output, but you also wont have a box taking up your trunk space.

mattastick

^ Good call with the Sound Splinter 8's, I forgot about those. Another good option (from what I've heard) would be Punch HX2 8's

tmcao55

Noob? A 6x9 has the same cone area as an 8" sub. Where things start to separate is the excursion. Do you know how much work it is to modify the rear deck? Do you know how much the rear deck would rattle with 2 8" subs? The right 6x9's can work as subs.

Bigger is better? In the sub world it usually is! NOT the enclosure though! an 8" sub in a 1 cubic feet enclosure will not get as loud or sound as good as a 10" or even a 12" made to be in a 1 cuft enclosure on the SAME amount of power.

To get an 8" sub to have the same output as a 10" sealed you would have to put a butt load of power to it and put it in a big enclosure--but why????? Just get a 10" sub in a sealed box or get some 6x9's that are linear in their output.

mattastick

Why is it that you think any/all 8's suck ass and are completely worthless? And you're wrong about bigger being better. There are plenty of guys doing just fine with small subs. TommyK bassraces 39.9 damn near every time with his single 10. And bassrace means music. You go buy a 15" RF P3 and I'll go buy a 10" DD 9510, and we'll see who can get louder on the same power. We'll use 1kw, just for fun. In that case, bigger is nowhere near better. The 15" P3 is only rated at 400w. It could probably take 600 or so in the RF suggested enclosure, but anything more than that, and you'd have to build the box to help increase the power handling. The 9510 is a sick sub, and I've personally seen 2 take a DD Z1a at 1 ohm (~5kw between the 2 subs). Those subs with that amp, single battery burping with the car off will do over a 152, and I think he might've gotten a 153 db out of it. That car belongs to Fred Schwartz, in case you're wondering.

eggyhustles

These little babies right here WILL embarrass your average 12 or 15

mattastick

^That's what I'm talking about eggy... I wanna do a pair in a T-line tuned low (~32)... Should be pretty nice...

crcendo

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It seemed like every time I found an old school Kicker free air or MB Quart 6x9 set, someone just purchased them.

I settled for a set of Clif Designs 6x9. I will be running them off a MTX 300w mono amp high level mounted under the rear deck(small footprint and no remote wire). We shall see in a week or so how it works. Like you, but I just want a little better quality bass than stock without taking any of my trunk space.