best subs and amp worth your $?
04-14-2003, 05:26 PM
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best subs and amp worth your $?
wat are the best subs and amp out there for the CL, that u can get at a very reasonable price, without emptying your wallet?
04-15-2003, 09:38 AM
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The Audiomobile MASS 2012 is the best 12-inch subwoofer at any price that I’ve reviewed. In fact, it could even be the best 12-incher currently on the market. - Tom Nousaine
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04-15-2003, 09:42 AM
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I had 2 of these in my '01 and they hit like 15"s and they had great sound quality to go with the volume. I ran a Fosgate Power 800 a2 to power each. Having said that, one is more than enough to give you a lot of bass. They run around $350 direct from the manufacturer on their site. Only down side is that they are heavy, 35lbs each
Forget the JL's, when I was getting my competition system installed, I had my shop pushing the JL's on me, big time. They were like "They are the best out there, win a lot of competitions, blah blah blah" They thought I was nuts when I got these new subs no one had ever heard of.....Then 4 weeks later, they finished the install and after tuning the system, they had their feet in their mouths, they couldn't believe hoe those subs performed.
Forget the JL's, when I was getting my competition system installed, I had my shop pushing the JL's on me, big time. They were like "They are the best out there, win a lot of competitions, blah blah blah" They thought I was nuts when I got these new subs no one had ever heard of.....Then 4 weeks later, they finished the install and after tuning the system, they had their feet in their mouths, they couldn't believe hoe those subs performed.
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04-15-2003, 11:43 AM
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That review was old. The same person tested the IDMAX more recently, and he called that the best 12 on the market. Im getting my W7s in today, so I will let you guys know how they compare to the maxes.
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The Audiomobile MASS 2012 is the best 12-inch subwoofer at any price that I’ve reviewed. In fact, it could even be the best 12-incher currently on the market. - Tom Nousaine
http://www.audiomobileinc.com/
The Audiomobile MASS 2012 is the best 12-inch subwoofer at any price that I’ve reviewed. In fact, it could even be the best 12-incher currently on the market. - Tom Nousaine
http://www.audiomobileinc.com/
04-15-2003, 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Nicky Pass
JL Audio is the best for the $$$$ You could get 2 12W3V2s with a 500/1 amp for under $1000 installed!
JL Audio is the best for the $$$$ You could get 2 12W3V2s with a 500/1 amp for under $1000 installed!
I have always wanted to add 2 12s and thought about 2 12W3v2s with a 500/1, but then keep hearing great things about your setup and the whole W7 series and am a bit undecided now. The price difference between the two will be minimal so I'm wondering which is better, disregarding the fact that the single 10" setup will probably take up less trunk space? I'll be keeping the stock speakers....at first, at least. I like deep bass and listen to all types of stuff....from hip-hop and breakbeats to hard rock.
04-15-2003, 03:33 PM
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this is a hard question... there are alot of good quality subs out there.... alot of people recommend jl audio becuase they make some damn good speakers and are a major player in the game... but personally i have not heard a sub yet that can compair to the w7 series... i say go to the local stereo shop and sample as many subs as possible.. and make your own decision...
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04-16-2003, 09:05 PM
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what is the usual cost for repair on a sub, or would u just have to throw it out the window and buy a completely new one? saying if the hardware were to break apart
04-19-2003, 01:05 AM
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The Jl 500.1 is a very strong amp, runs at 500 watts no matter what the impedance or voltage.
I disagree with the MTX statement by fastcl, but ot each his own.
If I had to choose best bang for the buck, I would go Boston Pro 10.5's or 12.5's. Very efficient subs that handle gobs of power and take alot of punishment. Also, very accurate subs when put into the .5 cubic foot per sub enclosure Boston reccommends
Only the W7's in the JL line better them in my opinion.
I disagree with the MTX statement by fastcl, but ot each his own.
If I had to choose best bang for the buck, I would go Boston Pro 10.5's or 12.5's. Very efficient subs that handle gobs of power and take alot of punishment. Also, very accurate subs when put into the .5 cubic foot per sub enclosure Boston reccommends
Only the W7's in the JL line better them in my opinion.
04-19-2003, 10:25 AM
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mtx subs better than jl subs... haha now that is funny... maybe in the $100 and under category... usually people just replaced defective subs instead of repairing... the boston subs are pretty nice as well you might want to look into alumapros...
04-19-2003, 11:22 AM
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why all this JL hype over the amps....how about JBL BP1200.1 1200 watts for 275 bucks....how much is one JL amp? 499??
i used to own 2 JL 10 W3...those subs sound great so deep and clean...
i used to own 2 JL 10 W3...those subs sound great so deep and clean...
04-19-2003, 06:40 PM
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hummm prove it... well like nickypass said... how many competition systems do you see using jbl amps... jbl is not even in the same class as jl audio... but if i must prove it here are the specs of both amps.. you do the comparison...
jl audio 1000/1
Rated Power: 1000 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
THD at Rated Power: <0.05% @ 4 ohm
S/N Ratio*: >95dB below rated power
Frequency Response: 5 Hz-500 Hz (+0, -1dB)
Damping Factor: >500 @ 4 ohm/50 Hz
Input Range: switchable from 200mV-2V RMS to 800mV-8V RMS
JBL 1200.1
Rated Power: 600W @ 4ohms/1200w @ 2ohms
THD at Rated Power: <0.10% @ 4ohm
S/N Ratio*: >90db
Frequency Response: 10Hz-320Hz
Input Range: 250mV-4V
hummm now tell me which one is better... not to mention that the jl amp is more effecient, it is also built with higher quality parts, and is more reliable than jbl amps... so you give me your reason jl is not better....
jl audio 1000/1
Rated Power: 1000 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
THD at Rated Power: <0.05% @ 4 ohm
S/N Ratio*: >95dB below rated power
Frequency Response: 5 Hz-500 Hz (+0, -1dB)
Damping Factor: >500 @ 4 ohm/50 Hz
Input Range: switchable from 200mV-2V RMS to 800mV-8V RMS
JBL 1200.1
Rated Power: 600W @ 4ohms/1200w @ 2ohms
THD at Rated Power: <0.10% @ 4ohm
S/N Ratio*: >90db
Frequency Response: 10Hz-320Hz
Input Range: 250mV-4V
hummm now tell me which one is better... not to mention that the jl amp is more effecient, it is also built with higher quality parts, and is more reliable than jbl amps... so you give me your reason jl is not better....
04-20-2003, 10:07 PM
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The JL 1000/1 will eat the JBL for lunch.
I had a JBL 1200.1 and my JL 500.1 is clearly better, blows it away at extreme levels.
My 500.1 bested my Tool462's Rockford 500a2 monoblocks, both of us running Boston Pro 10.5's in the same .5 cubic foot encolsure.
He ran out and bought the 500.1 the next day!
The Jbl specs are at 14.4 volts and max power into 2 ohms, meaning the JBL will be killing itself to produce those specs.
The JL amps are rated RMS, continuous power, not peak.
Meaning the JL 1000.1 puts out an average continuous 1000 watts into any impedance at any voltage because it has a regulated power supply. So it's crusin' most of the time.
JL is too reputable a company to publish overblown specs like JBL.
So if you aren't running the amp at 2 ohms and your car is only pushing 12 volts at idle, your at much less power with the JBL than you think.
The JBL is ok for the average joe looking to upgrade his factory system, but isn't going to compete with the big boys like JL.
SORRY SLOOOCL!
I had a JBL 1200.1 and my JL 500.1 is clearly better, blows it away at extreme levels.
My 500.1 bested my Tool462's Rockford 500a2 monoblocks, both of us running Boston Pro 10.5's in the same .5 cubic foot encolsure.
He ran out and bought the 500.1 the next day!
The Jbl specs are at 14.4 volts and max power into 2 ohms, meaning the JBL will be killing itself to produce those specs.
The JL amps are rated RMS, continuous power, not peak.
Meaning the JL 1000.1 puts out an average continuous 1000 watts into any impedance at any voltage because it has a regulated power supply. So it's crusin' most of the time.
JL is too reputable a company to publish overblown specs like JBL.
So if you aren't running the amp at 2 ohms and your car is only pushing 12 volts at idle, your at much less power with the JBL than you think.
The JBL is ok for the average joe looking to upgrade his factory system, but isn't going to compete with the big boys like JL.
SORRY SLOOOCL!
04-20-2003, 11:49 PM
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Hmm..dont be so quick to diss the 1200.1. I've had one, and it was much better then my rockfrod fosgat ethat I had. It was tested to put out a little over 1400w at 1 and 2ohm. The amp is 1ohm stable.
Originally posted by sonor kid
The JL 1000/1 will eat the JBL for lunch.
I had a JBL 1200.1 and my JL 500.1 is clearly better, blows it away at extreme levels.
My 500.1 bested my Tool462's Rockford 500a2 monoblocks, both of us running Boston Pro 10.5's in the same .5 cubic foot encolsure.
He ran out and bought the 500.1 the next day!
The Jbl specs are at 14.4 volts and max power into 2 ohms, meaning the JBL will be killing itself to produce those specs.
The JL amps are rated RMS, continuous power, not peak.
Meaning the JL 1000.1 puts out an average continuous 1000 watts into any impedance at any voltage because it has a regulated power supply. So it's crusin' most of the time.
JL is too reputable a company to publish overblown specs like JBL.
So if you aren't running the amp at 2 ohms and your car is only pushing 12 volts at idle, your at much less power with the JBL than you think.
The JBL is ok for the average joe looking to upgrade his factory system, but isn't going to compete with the big boys like JL.
SORRY SLOOOCL!
The JL 1000/1 will eat the JBL for lunch.
I had a JBL 1200.1 and my JL 500.1 is clearly better, blows it away at extreme levels.
My 500.1 bested my Tool462's Rockford 500a2 monoblocks, both of us running Boston Pro 10.5's in the same .5 cubic foot encolsure.
He ran out and bought the 500.1 the next day!
The Jbl specs are at 14.4 volts and max power into 2 ohms, meaning the JBL will be killing itself to produce those specs.
The JL amps are rated RMS, continuous power, not peak.
Meaning the JL 1000.1 puts out an average continuous 1000 watts into any impedance at any voltage because it has a regulated power supply. So it's crusin' most of the time.
JL is too reputable a company to publish overblown specs like JBL.
So if you aren't running the amp at 2 ohms and your car is only pushing 12 volts at idle, your at much less power with the JBL than you think.
The JBL is ok for the average joe looking to upgrade his factory system, but isn't going to compete with the big boys like JL.
SORRY SLOOOCL!
04-21-2003, 12:17 PM
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are the JL's MONO D class, like the JBL?
can someone explain MONO D...specifically made for subwoofers?
Also Did i mention that you could purchase 2 JBL amps for the price of 1 JL...
And all you JL heads how many competitions have you entered with your JL stuff?
can someone explain MONO D...specifically made for subwoofers?
Also Did i mention that you could purchase 2 JBL amps for the price of 1 JL...
And all you JL heads how many competitions have you entered with your JL stuff?
04-21-2003, 09:27 PM
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well amplifiers are seperated into may classes.. there are class a (highest fidelity, least effecient) ,ab, c, d (highest efficentcy, lowest fidelity) and etc... amps... since class d amps are usually used to push subs fidelity is not an issue... people use the class d amp becuase you are able to get more power than a class a or a/b amp would get with the same current draw... thus the reason class d amps are used primarily for subs when you need alot of power and dont really care to much about fidelity... and the class a or a/b will be used for you high/mids since you want good fidelity and power is usually not a big issue... oh and the mono part just means one channel... as for how many competition i have entered with my jl stuff (zero) but i can tell you every time i go to a car show or competition alot of the people there are running jl subs and/or jl amps... dont get me wrong i am not saying that jl is the best out there by no means... but they do make some solid equipment...
04-21-2003, 11:52 PM
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I'm not saying that JBL is crap because it's not, but don't compare it to JL in the car, JL is a better product.
I'm also not saying JL is the best either. The 500/1 that powers my Boston Pro 10.5's is the only JL product I own, but for good reason.
By the way, the JL 500/1 can be bought for about $400.00 on the web, so it's not that expensive.
I'm also not saying JL is the best either. The 500/1 that powers my Boston Pro 10.5's is the only JL product I own, but for good reason.
By the way, the JL 500/1 can be bought for about $400.00 on the web, so it's not that expensive.
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