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Old 08-31-2006, 12:27 AM
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a friend of mine received a ticket for "following too closely." now, on a judgement call like this, is it even worth going to court for? (assuming the officer shows up).
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Originally Posted by Caliadria
Welcome back! I love reading this stuff too, but while I'm here I have a semi-serious question... just something I've always wondered. (Also, I may have asked this in the other thread but my memory is shot, so forgive me)...

1. What is the correct answer to "Do you know how fast you were going?" In my mind, answering "no" shows a disregard for your own driving, but answering "yes" shows a disrespect for the law.

2. Is the response, "I have explosive diarrhea/bladder infection and I'm trying to get home in order to save my car interior" a valid excuse?

I mean, what IS a good excuse for speeding? What would you just have to laugh at and walk away from? Thanks, dude!
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1. I suggest "I'm sorry officer, I was just driving and not watching the speedometer"... in a very respectful and apologetic tone... Kind of sits on the fence, not an admission but not an outright "no"... I've driven without watching the speedo, and i can understand how when you're busy, you don't pay attention sometimes... but mileage varies with every cop....

2. Sometimes, as long as you deliver the line correctly (with proper facial expression)... Speaking for myself as a younger cop, when you're in a good car (read: not a POS $1000 Craigslist special) and there is no traffic 90 in a 65 is fine with me...

The proper excuse is like the lottery... factors like traffic, time of day, the officer (most important), etc... You being a chixor can play it up really well with a little flirting, i've let MANY girls off just because they flirted a little... Guys are dumb, and a well placed laugh or smile will bypass all our training and smack us right in the chest...
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Originally Posted by Mike_McCready
When you are dippin down the freeway at 80-90 and you happen to see a cop (hidden or driving). Should you brake immediately, or just get off the gas and hope to glide to a slower speed. Because braking is a sign of obvious guilt, but also a more effective way to get down to the speed limit..
brake as much as you can w/o it looking *too* obvious, then coast before the rear of your car crosses the cop's eyes and hope...
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Originally Posted by Caliadria
What if you really DO have explosive diarrhea and being stopped causes you to miss your window of opportunity to make it back to the house in time, and by the time the cop gets to your window you've already gone? Brakejob, would you uh, send the poor fuck on his way?
police escort prolly
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
Ah yes, I remember the last "Ask a cop" thread. Welcome back


Quick question:

What would the penalty be for both parties (if any) if a cop was caught giving a civilian something small, like road flares or handcuffs, etc. Nothing major (like a gun or anything)

Thanks a lot
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honestly, nothing... I give out flares and other safety gear all the time, and though I wouldn't give out my cuffs if an officer did that officer would be responsible for buying him/herself a new set...
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Originally Posted by SoCAL ACURA909
Dude this is the mother of all threads in this forum. I love this thread. Granted, it would be nice to have a "Ask a lawyer anything" then again, lawyers aren't out there citing tickets and catching bad guys. I learn so much from this thread as far as how officers view things and such. Good work
thanks I have a cop buddy who is also a lawyer he's scary
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no questions here either...Welcome back

*great thread, btw
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Originally Posted by PenguinQX
If you're speeding near a state border and suddenly see a cop and manage to outrun them into the next state, can they follow you and give you a ticket?
yes. I am not familiar with our border state codes, but I imagine they have similar text

830.39. (a) Any regularly employed law enforcement officer of the
Oregon State Police, the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles and
Public Safety, or the Arizona Department of Public Safety is a peace
officer in this state if all of the following conditions are met:
(1) The officer is providing, or attempting to provide, law
enforcement services within this state on the state or county
highways and areas immediately adjacent thereto, within a distance of
up to 50 statute miles of the contiguous border of this state and
the state employing the officer.
(2) The officer is providing, or attempting to provide, law
enforcement services pursuant to either of the following:
(A) In response to a request for services initiated by a member of
the California Highway Patrol.
(B) In response to a reasonable belief that emergency law
enforcement services are necessary for the preservation of life, and
a request for services by a member of the Department of the
California Highway Patrol is impractical to obtain under the
circumstances. In those situations, the officer shall obtain
authorization as soon as practical. etc..........
Basically they can keep their status as a peace officer in California, especially when they're chasing someone

edit: oh, and when you try to evade the police, you dont get a ticket. you go to jail.
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
1) By how much can you exceed the speed limit on the highway and not get pulled over?

2) Does the CHP use laser or radar?

3) Do certain cars, such as Civics/tCs, get watched particularly close due to the type of drivers that usually drive those vehicles.

4) Do cops specifically target teenage drivers more than others.

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1) 5mph is safe

2) Radar... afaik no laser is in use in california

3) not specific brands, but specific styles... more like shitboxes with expensive wheels... when your wheels cost more than the car itself, it gets our attention

4) yes and no.... yes vs. your regular mom and pop driver, but not more than your doper looking driver
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Originally Posted by CLickCLack97
a friend of mine received a ticket for "following too closely." now, on a judgement call like this, is it even worth going to court for? (assuming the officer shows up).
honestly no, because it's word vs word and unless the officer has a bad reputation your friend will lose
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Originally Posted by 03silvertypeS
no questions here either...Welcome back

*great thread, btw
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Originally Posted by brakejob
1) 5mph is safe

2) Radar... afaik no laser is in use in california

3) not specific brands, but specific styles... more like shitboxes with expensive wheels... when your wheels cost more than the car itself, it gets our attention

4) yes and no.... yes vs. your regular mom and pop driver, but not more than your doper looking driver
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So that means going 75-80 on 80 towards SF from Sac is a no-no?

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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
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So that means going 75-80 on 80 towards SF from Sac is a no-no?

just watch for teh police...
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
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So that means going 75-80 on 80 towards SF from Sac is a no-no?


just watch the hill coming down into fairfield. chp sits on those onramps all day long. once you get past the 680 exit you are in the clear
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If someone out runs the cops during the night in a car after their caught speeding (say 100+) and safely gets away. How much attention is paid the next day to looking for that suspected car?
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sup man, havnt seen you in a while!... i have a q about my recent ticket. two lane road.. speed limit is 40.. he radar'd me going 52.. but the lane turns into 1 lane and speed limit is reduced to 30 beacause it turns into a business area.. he was parked in the business area shooting his radar gun at me while the speed limit is still 40mph.. he radar'd me BEFORE the sign that says 30mph.. he pulled me over after we drove thru the 30mph area and into a parking lot after a stop sign.

he wroyte i was going 45 in the 30 zone.. beacause he said if he wrote 52 i'd get my licecne suspended so i guess he was being somewat nice beacause i was being honest with him.

anyways i can prove that i was only going 5mph over (which should be reasonable with the judge? i know i have to contest this ticket and win because i just got one i admited guilt too a few months ago. can u come save me dan? (im not joking)
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Originally Posted by brakejob
wow... well the police should be going after the management company, especially if they are claiming they're "sold/given away/thrown out" (which is basically an admission that they messed with the tires)

When did this happen? I'd call the department and get some updates. You can also go after them in civil court.

thanks. i'll update the police as well then
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Originally Posted by brakejob
all we get here, at least among my dept and other depts around me from what i know, is that the window can be no darker than our own front windows...

ca tint laws are like that though... you basically can't tint the front windows, but the back windows and rear window can be limo tint if you want
1) is that true?? when i google this, every website that i find about tint laws in california say that 70% is ok for the fronts... everyone seems to insist that you can't tint the fronts at all...

2) what do you think about www.ticketassassin.com?? would that work or is it a waste of time??

3) what are some things i can do to get on a police officer's good side if i get pulled over??

great thread btw....
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some really good questions.

however, I feel like not all cops are as cool as brakejob and might be a little less lenient on the judgement calls. but thumbs up to you man I hope we have some cops like you in NJ
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Originally Posted by brakejob
it takes off, the thrust is independent of the interaction between the wheels and the belt



Why dont cops obey the street laws that every other person has to obey. IE flipping a bitch from the center lane. Turning on their lights to go through a light, just to turn them off again once they get through the light?
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pimpravi's question has prompted mine.

When you are driving on a road and you see a speed limit sign and the limit is changing (up or down from the previous), from where is that new limit in effect? From the spot in the road where the sign actually is? From xx feet before you come to the actual location of the sign? From when you can see the sign?
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Originally Posted by KCPreki11
If someone out runs the cops during the night in a car after their caught speeding (say 100+) and safely gets away. How much attention is paid the next day to looking for that suspected car?
usually a lot... during the briefing the description will be given out, etc... they won't usually hunt for it but if, say, a red civic hatchback goes by they'll follow it to see whats going on...
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Originally Posted by pimpravi
sup man, havnt seen you in a while!... i have a q about my recent ticket. two lane road.. speed limit is 40.. he radar'd me going 52.. but the lane turns into 1 lane and speed limit is reduced to 30 beacause it turns into a business area.. he was parked in the business area shooting his radar gun at me while the speed limit is still 40mph.. he radar'd me BEFORE the sign that says 30mph.. he pulled me over after we drove thru the 30mph area and into a parking lot after a stop sign.

he wroyte i was going 45 in the 30 zone.. beacause he said if he wrote 52 i'd get my licecne suspended so i guess he was being somewat nice beacause i was being honest with him.

anyways i can prove that i was only going 5mph over (which should be reasonable with the judge? i know i have to contest this ticket and win because i just got one i admited guilt too a few months ago. can u come save me dan? (im not joking)
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tough one... on paper and according to your side you're correct, he shot you with radar before the sign. The 30mph zone starts at the sign.

the problem is that the location of the stop is a little deeper into the 30mph zone, so the officer could say he did radar you within the zone.

A lot of this will depend on the officer's notes, if any, about the stop. You have to fight it regardless, as you say, and I would have suggested fighting it anyway. A Trial by written declaration may be your best bet. I've never been on the receiving end of one (since i don't write bullshit tickets) so I only know the same stuff thats available on the internet... but you'll get to write a nice letter explaining what you did. Don't address the 52 in a 40, just go by what the officer said you were doing (45 in a 40).

Because of perjury don't say you weren't going 52, just say the officer claims you were going 45 in a 30 when in fact the speedlimit for the zone you were in was 40mph. You know what I mean, just don't flat out say "I was only going 45"...
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Originally Posted by bimmer88
1) is that true?? when i google this, every website that i find about tint laws in california say that 70% is ok for the fronts... everyone seems to insist that you can't tint the fronts at all...

2) what do you think about www.ticketassassin.com?? would that work or is it a waste of time??

3) what are some things i can do to get on a police officer's good side if i get pulled over??

great thread btw....
1)
Originally Posted by VC 26708
(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent
material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows,
located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following
conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements
of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205),
including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and
the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal
standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability
of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle,
a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the
windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this
subdivision and identifies the installing company and the material's
manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was
installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material's
manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed
according to manufacturer's instructions meets the requirements of this
subdivision and identifies the material's manufacturer by full name
and street address.

(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles,
or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed
or replaced.
now you're right, 70%... BUT there is a catch here....

Originally Posted by VC 26708

Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver's View

26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.
thats what gets you... see, you can only tint per this code section the rear side windows behind the driver, and the rear window as long as you have two rear view mirrors.

The vehicle code is a bitch!
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1) is that true?? when i google this, every website that i find about tint laws in california say that 70% is ok for the fronts... everyone seems to insist that you can't tint the fronts at all...

2) what do you think about www.ticketassassin.com?? would that work or is it a waste of time??

3) what are some things i can do to get on a police officer's good side if i get pulled over??

great thread btw....
2) it's ok, it just informs people of their rights... i right solid tickets and i've never lost one... seriously...

3) here it goes... do the following:
  1. Pull over quickly but somewhere where the officer isn't going to risk death by exiting his patrol vehicle
  2. Roll your drivers and passenger windows down, Turn off your engine and your stereo
  3. Turn on all your interior lights
  4. put your hands on the top of the steering wheel and keep them there at all times
  5. when the officer comes look at his face, in his eyes. He will probably flash you with the flashlight. Sorry about that, i know it hurts your eyes, but it "washes them out" and kinda blinds you, and that makes us feel safe...
  6. Be polite and respectful. don't admit you've done anything wrong, but don't act like you're innocent. you probably know why you've been pulled over, so just be submissive about it... (Cop: Do you know how fast you were going. You: No, im very sorry officer i wasn't paying attention to the speedometer I was just driving... or similar)
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some really good questions.

however, I feel like not all cops are as cool as brakejob and might be a little less lenient on the judgement calls. but thumbs up to you man I hope we have some cops like you in NJ
yeah some don't use as much discretion... but the answers to tell the police aren't too bad, i'd consider them good "middle of the road" stuff... trying a funny excuse with me will get you off, but another officer would throw the book at you... you know what I mean?
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My question was probably more of an accusation, im just bitter when it comes to "law enforcement"
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Why dont cops obey the street laws that every other person has to obey. IE flipping a bitch from the center lane. Turning on their lights to go through a light, just to turn them off again once they get through the light?
honestly, its the "because we can" rule. let me explain, im not being cocky:

A police officer has a pretty shitty job. No one likes us until they need us. Then we're assholes because we didn't get there on time.

Now we don't just make illegal u-turns of buzz lights all the time for no reaosn... and any officer doing that is not only abusing the "because we can" rule, but is also being unsafe because if something happens that officer is liable...

But 100% of the time for me, when I ignore the No U-turn signs, buzz lights, or park wherever i please it's because I am doing something at that moment. I have a call to get to, I have a fellow officer to cover, etc...

If for instance, you call the police because someone is acting shady by your neighbors car... I *cannot* go "Code 3" to the call, i have to obey regular traffic rules and thus get stuck in traffic and get there in 7 minutes. By then the guy is gone and you (and your neighbor) are upset because I took so long. So I "expedite" and get there within 4 minutes and manage to catch the asshat in the act.

Or I see someone acting shady on a street corner. I am not going to drive all the way to the intersection, wait for the light, then drive all the way back giving Joe Schmoe time to ditch his shit and run. I am going to hop the median and get there asap...

Here is something to remember. The vehicle code does not allow us to do this. If we get in a wreck or something, it's on us. So we risk our own financial health to get to calls a little faster.
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My question was probably more of an accusation, im just bitter when it comes to "law enforcement"
i answered it, but why are you bitter?
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I was arrested for a BS DUI. Got treated like shit. I was told to piss my pants, rather than use the bathroom... etc. etc. etc.

Plus the abuse of the "because I can" rule.

Dont try to enforce something that you cant even obey.
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alright, I just received this email from my mother Thought I'd post it here for your thoughts.


Subject: What to do if you get a traffic ticket

Remember, this advice was sent to me by my dad
the retired State Farm agent! This system has
been tried and it works in every state.

If you get a speeding ticket or went through
a red light or whatever the case may be,
and you're going to get points on your
license, this is a method to ensure
that you DO NOT get the points.

When you get your fine, send in a check
to pay for it. If the fine is $79.00 make
the check out for $82.00 or some
small amount over the fine.

The system will then have to send
you back a check for the
difference, however
here is the trick.

DO NOT CASH THE REFUND CHECK!
Throw it away! Points are not assessed
to your license until all financial
transactions are complete.

If you do not cash the check,
then the transactions are
NOT complete.

The system has received it's money
and is satisfied and will no
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i've heard of this before....is this just some urban myth....
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I was arrested for a BS DUI. Got treated like shit. I was told to piss my pants, rather than use the bathroom... etc. etc. etc.

Plus the abuse of the "because I can" rule.

Dont try to enforce something that you cant even obey.
what is a 'bs' DUI?
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what is a 'bs' DUI?
But I will say this... I've never met, spoken to, or even heard of a truly law-abiding citizen who is bitter about cops.
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
I was arrested for a BS DUI. Got treated like shit. I was told to piss my pants, rather than use the bathroom... etc. etc. etc.

Plus the abuse of the "because I can" rule.

Dont try to enforce something that you cant even obey.
Why was it BS DUI? Did you have anything in your system? What numbers did you pull?

What was your attitude toward the cops during your arrest? If they told you to piss your pants and treated you like shit makes me think that your attitude during the arrest wasn't the best and you may have been giving them a hard time. No?

In NY (not sure about NJ) Emergency vehicles are exempt from the VTL (Vehicle Traffic Laws). So in NY, while cops are are running reds, going over medians, etc... they are NOT breaking the law since they are exempt.

Cops doing this are, for the most part, doing it for a reason. If you called 911 I am sure you would hope the cop wasnt waiting for every light or the next available highway exit.
Of course there are a few that just do it "because" which doesn't make it right. I'll give you that much.
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But I will say this... I've never met, spoken to, or even heard of a truly law-abiding citizen who is bitter about cops.
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alright, I just received this email from my mother Thought I'd post it here for your thoughts.

doesn't work. I tried it once and got my payment returned.
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But I will say this... I've never met, spoken to, or even heard of a truly law-abiding citizen who is bitter about cops.
I have met several! If all cops were like Brakejob then I would not be bitter; however, I grew up in a small town and was constantly harassed by cops for no reason. I am sure that this is very rare, however, and I refuse to stereotype and say that every man or woman in a uniform is the same (but I can't help but be a little bitter).
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Brakejob,
If I'm driving on the highway in a 55mph zone with relatively little traffic, spot a car going 80mph and I get in his lane and follow him at the same speed and we both get clocked by a cop. Who is he more likely to go after the first car or me?
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