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Old 08-30-2006, 01:40 PM
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I am alive all questions answered from a california cop point of view, laws do vary state to state

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damn, welcome back dude!

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damn, welcome back dude!

hope you've had a good summer
i've been out of the country and state for work but im back now thanks my man, how was your summer?
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Ignore my question from a few months back




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hmmmm cops have those thing that slide over your driver's side window to tell you how dark the tint is. So is that the only way they can measure the tint? IOW, If my back window is tinted darker than the sides (and also darker than legally acceptable) is there anyway they can prove it? Can they ticket me anyway just based on how it looks?




This is going to lend itself to a lot of reposted questions....
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Oh and I spit on your American laws....
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Tint laws suck.


The reason we have tint laws is for cops safety, correct?

Yet i still got a ticket even after rolling down all my windows before the cop even got out of his car.
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Ignore my question from a few months back




Welcome back bro!
i'll answer it my man, just point me in the right direction
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11
hmmmm cops have those thing that slide over your driver's side window to tell you how dark the tint is. So is that the only way they can measure the tint? IOW, If my back window is tinted darker than the sides (and also darker than legally acceptable) is there anyway they can prove it? Can they ticket me anyway just based on how it looks?




This is going to lend itself to a lot of reposted questions....
all we get here, at least among my dept and other depts around me from what i know, is that the window can be no darker than our own front windows...

ca tint laws are like that though... you basically can't tint the front windows, but the back windows and rear window can be limo tint if you want
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Tint laws suck.


The reason we have tint laws is for cops safety, correct?

Yet i still got a ticket even after rolling down all my windows before the cop even got out of his car.
Im pretty sure the reason for tint laws is so cops know whether you are pointing a gun at them when they pull you over....
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Tint laws suck.


The reason we have tint laws is for cops safety, correct?

Yet i still got a ticket even after rolling down all my windows before the cop even got out of his car.
yeah, from what I know... i don't ticket for tints because

#1 i have them

and

#2 tints here are what you can call "VC for PC" i.e. Some vehicle code violation which lets you pull people over and then try to get the for other stuff, like drugs or what not

"the reason i pulled you over is your windows are tinted, whats that in the center console?"

etc...
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I always wanted to know that if you get caught by a red light camera, is the ticket reported to your insurance?
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Welcome back

Oh and I spit on your American laws....
so do i
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I always wanted to know that if you get caught by a red light camera, is the ticket reported to your insurance?
depends on your state

some states treat them as movers, some as parking tickets...
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There have been a few posts here and a bazillion posts elsewhere about the legality of taking pictures. Do you think most cops are actually aware of what is and isn't legal in this area?

BTW - Welcome back!
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Welcome back. I wondered what happend to the namesake of this smiley
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
There have been a few posts here and a bazillion posts elsewhere about the legality of taking pictures. Do you think most cops are actually aware of what is and isn't legal in this area?

BTW - Welcome back!
thanks

as far as pictures where, in public?

we all (cops) know about privacy laws and such because we use them every day (as in: Cop has the legal right to be here and can observe from this area, etc...)

i don't the the majority of cops apply this to knowing that people can take pictures in public... I do, and i don't mind being photographed...
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If a plane is on a conveyor belt....

eh, nevermind
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Welcome back. I wondered what happend to the namesake of this smiley
government job = no say in what you do
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If a plane is on a conveyor belt....

eh, nevermind
it takes off, the thrust is independent of the interaction between the wheels and the belt

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is keeping ones illegal substance hidden under interior panels in their vehicle (such as the little cover underneath your steering wheel that gives access to the airbag plug) effective without the officer using a k-9?

Also, when does an officer determine when to bring in a k-9?
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welcome back

are you informed about rifles built from off-list lowers? have you encountered any and how would you and your department handle them (both sb23 compliant and not)?

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is keeping ones illegal substance hidden under interior panels in their vehicle (such as the little cover underneath your steering wheel that gives access to the airbag plug) effective without the officer using a k-9?

Also, when does an officer determine when to bring in a k-9?
all depends on how well the officer knows a vehicle, how well the stuff is hidden, etc... a cop who doesn't know a TL may just check the lower part of the center console storage without knowing there is an upper, etc...

a lot of factors... availability of the k9, ability to use the k9 w/o making the stop too long, need to search with k9 based on factors (suspect actions, history, etc...)

ya get the idea...
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are you informed about rifles built from off-list lowers? have you encountered any and how would you and your department handle them (both sb23 compliant and not)?
dude, i seriously suck at knowing gun laws.... if an expert is not available we usually confiscate any gun which we think may be illegal, and then let the experts weigh in later... i don't know whats on the list, whats not, etc...

i only own a sig p226 and glock 27 handgun, im not a big gun guy
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ok here's one for you..

i live in a appartment building and i rent. the mangement company for the appartment building went into a public storage that we have for the building, and basiclly stole 13 wheels and tires. (they were chained up, so they cut the chain) They didn't post anything that they wanted the room clean or to remove anything out of the unit. I asked for the wheels and tires back and they said they were "sold" or given away or thrown out. I filed a police report. (Grand theft)
Now what i want to know is that since they already admited to stealing them (or taking them) is there any CRIMINAL action i can take against them? can't they goto jail or something? I know i can sue them to get my money back, but what about putting them in jail?

I know it sounds stupid but it's 5k worth of wheels and tires that were taken from me

Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by brakejob
dude, i seriously suck at knowing gun laws.... if an expert is not available we usually confiscate any gun which we think may be illegal, and then let the experts weigh in later... i don't know whats on the list, whats not, etc...

i only own a sig p226 and glock 27 handgun, im not a big gun guy
if a gun is confiscated, is it a big hassle gettign it back?

of the two handguns, which is your duty weapon?
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im not really sure who you are but seems your well known. welcome back though =P

i got a quick question, if you'd be so kind to answer i'd really appreciate it.

i live in NJ and this state cop has pulled me over twice now for my window tint. no front tint is allowed at all in NJ. i was just wondering if my windows are down, and he pulls me over just to check if i took my tint off...can he force me to roll my windows up? can i just say my window regulators are broken?
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Originally Posted by brakejob
all depends on how well the officer knows a vehicle, how well the stuff is hidden, etc... a cop who doesn't know a TL may just check the lower part of the center console storage without knowing there is an upper, etc...

a lot of factors... availability of the k9, ability to use the k9 w/o making the stop too long, need to search with k9 based on factors (suspect actions, history, etc...)

ya get the idea...
so basically thats a good spot then

Also- do officers normally pay more attention to cars like ours?
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i'll answer it my man, just point me in the right direction

I found it out, was curious if a no seatbelt ticket was a point, some had told me it was, found out it wasn't
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btw, i just want to state again, YOU ARE THE MAN BRAKEJOB!
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if i want to burn a cross on someones lawn do i need to get a fire permit? j/k

if you have removed the amber reflector from the headlight housing (and no other amber reflector is on the front of the car) but do have an amber bulb that will reflect amber when a light is shone on it will that violate CA law? must you have an actual reflector or will a bulb that can reflect suffice?
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Originally Posted by AkuraCLS
ok here's one for you..

i live in a appartment building and i rent. the mangement company for the appartment building went into a public storage that we have for the building, and basiclly stole 13 wheels and tires. (they were chained up, so they cut the chain) They didn't post anything that they wanted the room clean or to remove anything out of the unit. I asked for the wheels and tires back and they said they were "sold" or given away or thrown out. I filed a police report. (Grand theft)
Now what i want to know is that since they already admited to stealing them (or taking them) is there any CRIMINAL action i can take against them? can't they goto jail or something? I know i can sue them to get my money back, but what about putting them in jail?

I know it sounds stupid but it's 5k worth of wheels and tires that were taken from me

Thanks!!
wow... well the police should be going after the management company, especially if they are claiming they're "sold/given away/thrown out" (which is basically an admission that they messed with the tires)

When did this happen? I'd call the department and get some updates. You can also go after them in civil court.
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Originally Posted by DRM600
if a gun is confiscated, is it a big hassle gettign it back?

of the two handguns, which is your duty weapon?
not if it's a perfectly legal gun, though i actually haven't seen this happen but only heard of it once (probably 99% are found to be illegal as far as i can tell... most gun owners who legally own their assault rifles aren't the kind of people that get negative police attention )

The P226... the glock 27 is just my off duty "so tiny it fits anywhere" gun
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im not really sure who you are but seems your well known. welcome back though =P

i got a quick question, if you'd be so kind to answer i'd really appreciate it.

i live in NJ and this state cop has pulled me over twice now for my window tint. no front tint is allowed at all in NJ. i was just wondering if my windows are down, and he pulls me over just to check if i took my tint off...can he force me to roll my windows up? can i just say my window regulators are broken?
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good question.... im not sure..

argument 1 = yes, because you're stopped for a violation and he can use his prior knowledge to check to see if you've repeated your infraction

argument 2 = no, because the tint was not the violation causing the stop, and the windows are not a "plain view item" (since they're rolled down, unlike say an open beer in the back seat the officer can see).

I lean toward #2, but as a cop i know I could say "would you roll your windows up?" in a way/tone that would get people to roll them up, and then it would be a consent thing (if i ever cared about tint, which i don't.)

EDIT: i need to learn reading comprehension.... okay the previous arguments are for if he legally pulls you over for another thing (tail light, speeding, etc...)

He cannot legally pull you over "just to check". thats an illegal stop.
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I found it out, was curious if a no seatbelt ticket was a point, some had told me it was, found out it wasn't
damn, i just answered that for someone in the real world a while back too...

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as far as pictures where, in public?

we all (cops) know about privacy laws and such because we use them every day (as in: Cop has the legal right to be here and can observe from this area, etc...)

i don't the the majority of cops apply this to knowing that people can take pictures in public... I do, and i don't mind being photographed...
Well there's a million different scenarios with the taking pictures thing. The big concern though is that a lot of private security guards and building management people are under the notion that it's illegal to take pictures of their private property when that's simply not true in most situations. The worst case being that they demand to confiscate some/all of your photo gear or possibly even detain you. Among the photo crowd, the rule of thumb for nasty situations like this are to request that the police be called or call them yourself. I assume you think that's good advice?

BTW, I don't want to waste a cop's time. If you're just a hobbyist my opinion is just walk away from the situation if you can. But some of these photo situations have come up with professionals who depend on taking pictures for their livelihood.
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if i want to burn a cross on someones lawn do i need to get a fire permit? j/k

if you have removed the amber reflector from the headlight housing (and no other amber reflector is on the front of the car) but do have an amber bulb that will reflect amber when a light is shone on it will that violate CA law? must you have an actual reflector or will a bulb that can reflect suffice?
as far as i know a front amber reflector is not a requirement of the california vehicle code for "regular" vehicles

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Well there's a million different scenarios with the taking pictures thing. The big concern though is that a lot of private security guards and building management people are under the notion that it's illegal to take pictures of their private property when that's simply not true in most situations. The worst case being that they demand to confiscate some/all of your photo gear or possibly even detain you. Among the photo crowd, the rule of thumb for nasty situations like this are to request that the police be called or call them yourself. I assume you think that's good advice?

BTW, I don't want to waste a cop's time. If you're just a hobbyist my opinion is just walk away from the situation if you can. But some of these photo situations have come up with professionals who depend on taking pictures for their livelihood.
yeah, call the police... if you're not taking pictures of us then i'll bet we'll all remember that you have a lawful right to snap a pic of anything you want from the public view...
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