West Coast Meet 4 - October 7th - 9th in Medford, Oregon
#41
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
I'm gonna need to throw on some power-adders b/f the meet to make sure I don't get embarassed... Where's MattG? - I need my revenge for last year's nitrous beat-down. I guess I could always fight nitrous with nitrous...I've heard the LS6 loves a 100-shot.
By the way, it's great to see you bringing the 400+HP beast with you!!
#43
Subie Dubie
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Originally Posted by TEH Z YO
Yeah! For sure!! Can't wait to hang out with you guys!! ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Lot's O HP here!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I can visit for a day or so. I have family in Medford.. consider me a maybe for now
(I just left Medford today, ironic!)
(I just left Medford today, ironic!)
#46
Adding MattG & Ken1997TL!! What car do these guys have?
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
8. Ken1997TL - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
8. Ken1997TL - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
#47
The Oracle of Acurazine!
Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2. Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2. Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
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#48
moved Ken1997TL to a maybe
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- TL
2 Ken1997TL - ???
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2 Ken1997TL - ???
#49
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October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
#50
Blown is Best
Originally Posted by TEH Z YO
I think you will be okay. That CTS-V is a monster out the box. ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I don't think I'll be beating the $hit out of a Caddy this year
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#51
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I can visit for a day or so. I have family in Medford.. consider me a maybe for now
(I just left Medford today, ironic!)
(I just left Medford today, ironic!)
See ya there
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#52
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
8. Ken1997TL - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - ???
8. Ken1997TL - ???
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
#53
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
#54
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Originally Posted by Allout
I don't think I'll be beating the $hit out of a Caddy this year ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Don't be too sure about that. I can't shift all that great yet. We should be about even HP at the wheels. I will have a torque advantage which would show at higher speeds. I haven't dyno'd mine but most guys are running around 340rwhp/330tq. I'm also burdened by an extra 250-300lbs (weighs 3850 lbs w/o driver).
#55
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Don't be too sure about that. I can't shift all that great yet. We should be about even HP at the wheels. I will have a torque advantage which would show at higher speeds. I haven't dyno'd mine but most guys are running around 340rwhp/330tq. I'm also burdened by an extra 250-300lbs (weighs 3850 lbs w/o driver).
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By the way, you're the official Seattle WCM4 recruiter!! See what you can do, thanks.
#56
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Originally Posted by Red Rider
It's gonna be FUN
By the way, you're the official Seattle WCM4 recruiter!! See what you can do, thanks.
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By the way, you're the official Seattle WCM4 recruiter!! See what you can do, thanks.
Wow, what an honor! My first official ACL position.
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I'll either be in my '97 TL or my '05
Cant decide yet
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#63
Originally Posted by pimpravi
i'd love to come represent the bay but i have teh hot import daze show on the 8th!
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#66
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Originally Posted by TEH Z YO
I don't think there is. The first two meets, we ate at Outback. ![Yum](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/yum.gif)
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#67
Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Outback is great and all, but you didn't get a good look at Cori in WCM3.
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#68
Blown is Best
Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Is there a Hooters in Medford?
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Hopefully H@mmerm@n will post a Corey tribute out of his Photo collection
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#69
Only Two Weeks To Go!!
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
#70
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2 Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
I've posted in all of the other SF/Northwest/Dallas threads etc.
Let's just keep working the "Maybes"
#72
Originally Posted by Red Rider
What's everyone waiting for ??
I've posted in all of the other SF/Northwest/Dallas threads etc.
Let's just keep working the "Maybes"
![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
I've posted in all of the other SF/Northwest/Dallas threads etc.
Let's just keep working the "Maybes"
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This is what happens when you drive a convoy of Acura's down I-5..... Who's seen MISCHIEF 3000? Where the State Patrol pulls over the whole line of cars? This really happened to us during our drive up to Canada for out Sept. 11 meet. I don't know about Oregon. But the Washington State Partrol "don't take to kindly to that type of business!"
![Rant](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rant.gif)
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#76
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Originally Posted by uncald4
This is what happens when you drive a convoy of Acura's down I-5..... Who's seen MISCHIEF 3000? Where the State Patrol pulls over the whole line of cars? This really happened to us during our drive up to Canada for out Sept. 11 meet. I don't know about Oregon. But the Washington State Partrol "don't take to kindly to that type of business!"
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/uncald4/Fall%20Meet%202005/PICT3108.jpg)
![Rant](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rant.gif)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/uncald4/Fall%20Meet%202005/PICT3108.jpg)
![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Oh, BTW, put me down as a maybe.
![Tomato](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tomato.gif)
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Ill let you guys know as soon as I can.
#77
Blown is Best
OFFICIAL WCM4 Sign-Up
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
- 2004 TL
2. Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
3. GoDucksCLSPride - 2001 CL-S
October 7th, 8th, and 9th
Medford, OR
Itinerary
- Friday night dinner (TBD) and maybe that little drift go kart track we went to last time!
- Saturday has to be Crater Lake, followed by Dinner and hang.
- Sunday could be a coast run, we'll see what everyone wants to do. Also need to see if Jet Boats are still running, but probably not.
Confirmed
1. Red Rider - 2005 Black Subaru GT - Friday and Saturday night
2. Hammerman - Silver 350Z
3. NSX-Tuner - 2005 Silverstone NSX - Friday and Saturday night
4. Allout - 2003 Silver CL-S 6MT - Friday and Saturday night
5. Seattle CLS - 2005 Raven Black CTS-V - Friday and Saturday night
6. TEH Z YO - Blue 350Z
7. MattG - 2005 White Subaru Legacy GT
Maybe
0. Dark Inspire - Blue TL
1. teh
![Jatt](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/mf_turban.gif)
2. Ken1997TL - 2005 TL
3. GoDucksCLSPride - 2001 CL-S
#79
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by uncald4
This is what happens when you drive a convoy of Acura's down I-5..... Who's seen MISCHIEF 3000? Where the State Patrol pulls over the whole line of cars? This really happened to us during our drive up to Canada for out Sept. 11 meet. I don't know about Oregon. But the Washington State Partrol "don't take to kindly to that type of business!"
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/uncald4/Fall%20Meet%202005/PICT3108.jpg)
![Rant](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rant.gif)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/uncald4/Fall%20Meet%202005/PICT3108.jpg)
Since when is it illegal to drive together??????
#80
Subie Dubie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by GoDucksCLSPride
I think we might get away with it since we'll have a hodge podge of cars this time. Gone are the days of 20 CL-S's owning every corner of the open road like a choreographed ballet. ![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Oh, BTW, put me down as a maybe.
I am moving into my new home the following weekend and may have to coordinate, pack and prep that weekend since all I'll have left is the busy work week before moving day.
Ill let you guys know as soon as I can.
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Oh, BTW, put me down as a maybe.
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Ill let you guys know as soon as I can.
Yeah, I agree on the make up of the "Pack"
I really hope you can make it Bro!! It would be cool to have some company driving down from PDX
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Good luck with the move, I just finished mine a few weeks ago, so I know where you're at.